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Replace or repair fence? (by Laura [VA]) Apr 20, 2024 7:07 PM
       Replace or repair fence? (by RB [TN]) Apr 20, 2024 8:47 PM
       Replace or repair fence? (by plenty [MO]) Apr 20, 2024 8:54 PM
       Replace or repair fence? (by Sir Walter [NC]) Apr 20, 2024 9:06 PM
       Replace or repair fence? (by Sir Walter [NC]) Apr 20, 2024 9:20 PM
       Replace or repair fence? (by LisaFL [FL]) Apr 20, 2024 10:28 PM
       Replace or repair fence? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 20, 2024 10:43 PM
       Replace or repair fence? (by Small potatoes [NY]) Apr 21, 2024 12:33 AM
       Replace or repair fence? (by Robert J [CA]) Apr 21, 2024 1:47 AM
       Replace or repair fence? (by MC [PA]) Apr 21, 2024 6:21 AM
       Replace or repair fence? (by Steve [MA]) Apr 21, 2024 6:50 AM
       Replace or repair fence? (by Vee [OH]) Apr 21, 2024 9:46 AM
       Replace or repair fence? (by Sir Walter [NC]) Apr 21, 2024 9:51 AM
       Replace or repair fence? (by Busy [WI]) Apr 21, 2024 10:09 AM
       Replace or repair fence? (by Allym [NJ]) Apr 21, 2024 11:35 AM
       Replace or repair fence? (by ken [NY]) Apr 21, 2024 11:36 AM
       Replace or repair fence? (by pmh [TX]) Apr 21, 2024 6:38 PM
       Replace or repair fence? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Apr 22, 2024 7:22 AM

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Replace or repair fence? (by Laura [VA]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2024 7:07 PM
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I have a 1940s SFH rental with a pre-1997 wood 6' privacy fence.

This fence has been popping boards for years and I just keep screwing them back in, but it's all looking kinda shabby.

We had a sever storm come through and a partially-rotten post snapped, so now one large segment of the fence is sagging badly. This is a rental with pets, so I need the fence to be in good shape.

I have questions! Considering the post was partially rotten and the fence is at the end of its lifespan, I'm assuming an insurance claim for storm damage probably won't get me very far - an I right about that? Also, any tips on saving $$ on a new fence? I can't do it myself, but I do have a pretty dependable handyman. Just bite the bullet and pay for a brand new privacy fence? --67.172.xxx.xxx




Replace or repair fence? (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2024 8:47 PM
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Start with an estimate from the handyman

for repair v replace,

or get rid of the Tenant, Dog and Fence. --69.130.xxx.xxx




Replace or repair fence? (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2024 8:54 PM
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Similar situation with a chain link fence. Leaning towards removal. But I'm your case keep repairing. --172.59.xxx.xxx




Replace or repair fence? (by Sir Walter [NC]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2024 9:06 PM
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What does your insurance policy say about covering fences? What is your deductible?

Does it have to be a 6' tall wood privacy fence?

City planners are now recommending non-opaque fences for both aesthetic and security reasons. Aesthetic because they can give a sense of openness and expansiveness. Security because no one can hide behind them or hide junk or pitbulls behind them.

There are multiple choices that look good in a variety of settings. Aluminum, rail, welded wire/hog wire fencing, black chain link, or a mixture of options, depending upon what you are bordering. Wire mesh can be attached to a rail fence to dog proof it. Hardy evergreen shrubbery at designated places in front of the rail fence can also give the aesthetic effect (beauty, expansiveness) that one poster here wanted to achieve with ivy over a pre-existing chain link fence.

The non-opaque options require less maintenance and last longer than wood privacy fences.

If a tenant still requires privacy, a privacy screen built on a one or two sides of porch or deck, or at a strategic point in a yard, can update a place nicely and inexpensively while looking chic and being marketable.

A 4 foot open fence suffices for most dogs. A 4 foot fence with mature shrubbery in front of it hinders Olympic jumpers.

A big issue with having your handyman do it is getting the posts set right so that they won't rot in the ground or where the weedeater touches it. Different chemicals are used now, so posts don't last as long. A reputable fence company may be able to set the posts so that they last longer than 10 years if they are on top of updated installation methods. You can also google strategies for setting posts and come up with a solution with your handyman. Make certain you know boundaries, good fence laws, good side laws, etc.

Know of flippers who had their handyman install a fence for a quick sale. Cost them multiples of what they thought they were saving.

--5.182.xxx.xxx




Replace or repair fence? (by Sir Walter [NC]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2024 9:20 PM
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Usable boards salvaged from the removed fence panels can be stained and used to make the privacy screens. Turn the boards horizontal for a modern effect. --5.182.xxx.xxx




Replace or repair fence? (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2024 10:28 PM
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I don’t warrant fencing anymore, especially just because someone chooses to have a pet. To many weather events, improper use of gates, etc. They can use the one provided, repair it as needed or I will remove it for them if they don’t want to. Just got sick and tired repairing my fences, the neighbors fences, etc. I take care of the houses, no longer the fences. But I’m happy to remove them. Nobody has asked for that yet. --24.236.xx.xx




Replace or repair fence? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2024 10:43 PM
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Laura,

Tough choices.

My prospects love and ask for fencing - pets or kids or privacy.

My fenced homes rents faster than unfenced.

It is a valuable amenity.

We don't have to fence the entire yard -just enough for pets, etc.

Wood is a pain. We use vinyl for smaller installations because they look classy and don't rot or peel.

Larger yards get chain link. Satisfies the request for q fenced yard, fast and easy. No painting!

BRAD --73.103.xxx.xxx




Replace or repair fence? (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2024 12:33 AM
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They make a post base repair kit w a steel post base and spike to go in the ground to replace rotten posts. As long as this is a section in the run and not an end it's a suitable replacement. The stockade fences they make now are prolly of worse build than the one you have. Keep yours in service and consider staining it. --172.59.xxx.xxx




Replace or repair fence? (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2024 1:47 AM
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With my first rental purchased back in 1978, I've been putting up so many fences over a 46 year period. Also besides being an owner/landlord, I'm also a licensed contractor.

There is NO ONE ANSWER to your question, but here is my take on things. If your current fence is salvageable, then fixing it is one way to go. If not, there here is my solution.

1) Buy new fencing boards on sale and bind them together in a strapped pile, stored inside a metal shed to dry out over a 30 day period during a hot weather spell.. Tighten the straps and weigh down the pile of board so they dry out evenly.

2) Then apply a wood dealer on all six sides of the boards. Then using a special paint, cover over the boards again--using an exterior wood paint.

3) Then install Metal galvanized post every 8 feet and then using metal to wood brackets, install the railings. Then attach the fence boards to the rails.

Now your metal post will outlast wood posts by 20 to 30 years. And you treated (sealer and paint) fence boards will last over 30 years, instead of looking sad after the first decade. --47.155.xx.x




Replace or repair fence? (by MC [PA]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2024 6:21 AM
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I know why fences are popular but they are a pain for maintenance. Mowing and weed wracking around requires extra care. Some have a false sense of security with them in regards to pets, kids, privacy,etc. Figure your bottom line and decide if it is worth it. IF you decide to replace, remember to add it to your rent on the next increase or vacancy.

--73.230.xxx.xx




Replace or repair fence? (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2024 6:50 AM
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Over the years at some of our properties we've installed wooden fences.

Typically, we'll use 8'-10' pressure treated 4x4s for the posts, PT 2x4's as the rails and PT 5/4 decking for the pickets. Because we're in an area where the frost can go down a foot or more, we dig the holes 3' deep add some crushed stone to the bottom of the hole which gets tamped down. Once the 4x4 is set & braced we add more crushed stone tamping it as we go. Once we get within 5" of the top, we put some weed fabric barrier on top of the stone & add soil to finish filling the hole. For fences with pickets less than 3' tall we install 2 horizontal rails & for those over 3' we install 3 rails. These rails get tacked in place with a nail gun & secured using 3 1/2" Deckmate screws from HD. We make the pickets from 5/4 x 6" PT decking & fasten them with 2 1/2" hot dipped galvanized nails using a pneumatic nail gun. Depending upon how fancy we want the fence we sometimes rip the boards in half & make a decorative top for them. Once the fence is installed, to help preserve it we apply 2 coats of CWF to the posts, the rails & the pickets.

I've found that using crushed stone at the bottom of the holes & for back filling around the posts that theses post last 15+ years. By installing the pickets 1-2 inches above the ground & installing them with hot dipped nails they also last 15+ years. Every 10 years or so we might apply some more CFW but that's about the only maintenance we ever need to do. A couple of years ago, we had to replace a section that got damage when a tree landed on it. When I checked my records, I found that it had been installed in 1996.

--96.233.xxx.xx




Replace or repair fence? (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2024 9:46 AM
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My take, first the fence was likely built from fresh lumber - a lot of moisture so the nails began rusting on the way to the lumberyard where if stored indoors the decay continued along quietly, take a quart of screws dipped into remnants of a can of floor varnish and fasten the panels to the horizontal part using rubber gloves - so the slats are now steady to the fence frame. Next the post, I would get a new post and cut to fit over the cracked or rotten area and using long screws attach the new to the old, using thru bolts with washers afterwards your fence will be back, be cautious of dogs large enough to ruin things like this fence, dogs always win in court --184.59.xxx.xx




Replace or repair fence? (by Sir Walter [NC]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2024 9:51 AM
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Spring for thicker, harder boards if you go for a privacy fence again. Teenagers like to practice karate and find it easier to break cheaper boards. --89.149.xx.xxx




Replace or repair fence? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2024 10:09 AM
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Simpson strong tie or Simpson E Z mender. Gets ya through until its time for the right replacement. Used one of these on a front porch post for five or six years. Gave me time to build up funds to have whole front porch and sidewalk replaced.

--72.135.xxx.xx




Replace or repair fence? (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2024 11:35 AM
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Have had to fix and or install numerous fences over the last thirty years and twenty units. Bad neighbors, big dogs, ugly trashy yards next door. The wooden fences I painted are still standing. It's hard work and I can't do it anymore but it saves a lot of work and money. The "pro" companies I have had don't set the posts properly. They hire cheap labor and dig a hole and put the post in and pretend to use cement by just pouring the dry powder in the hole. I have a wood six footer now at my home that a neighbor's tree dropped a branch on and animals crossing through have broken it more. I put caution tape on it and am trying to find a way to fix the panel myself. I will check out the Samson EZ mender mentioned above. So that is what I recommend to you Vee suggests sistering another post onto the one that is there. Also handyman can sister (attach) another piece of two by three onto the cross members with screws. I like Robert J. suggestion of getting slats and treating them and keeping them available. I have asked fence installers to drop the pieces off to me so I can paint them before installation but they won't. I use Cabot's oil based when I paint a fence. I just did a four foot picket before the holidays. I use a thick roller and it goes really fast. It's a bad job due to lessthan perfect removal of chips but from the road it is magnificent with my blooming pinkcloud of a Kwanzan cherry tree twenty feet hight, purple magnolias and greenery. they did my rental as a parade float for the fourth of July paradeone year. --173.61.xxx.xxx




Replace or repair fence? (by ken [NY]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2024 11:36 AM
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I would remove it for a rental, i might replace it for a flip --74.77.xx.xx




Replace or repair fence? (by pmh [TX]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2024 6:38 PM
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bite the bullet. a fence dated 1997 is past time for replacement. I always install a fence on a new purchase if none there. My market is geared towards pet owners who can't find a fenced back yard. (I also gear towards non smokers). Non smoker / pet owners gets me premium rents. --71.14.xxx.xx




Replace or repair fence? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2024 7:22 AM
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It will depend on the insurance policy you have. Cash value policies depreciate all parts of a building. I am not sure how long they use but they told me a door would last only 15 years. So I would expect a fence to be in that neighborhood too.

I wouldn't believe a cash policy would assist you. You can start by calling your agent and asking though --24.101.xxx.xxx



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