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AC coolant leaked out (by AllyM [NJ]) Apr 19, 2024 6:20 PM
       AC coolant leaked out (by Richard [MI]) Apr 19, 2024 6:39 PM
       AC coolant leaked out (by plenty [MO]) Apr 19, 2024 7:22 PM
       AC coolant leaked out (by 6x6 [TN]) Apr 19, 2024 7:39 PM
       AC coolant leaked out (by Pat [VA]) Apr 19, 2024 7:42 PM
       AC coolant leaked out (by plenty [MO]) Apr 19, 2024 8:28 PM
       AC coolant leaked out (by MikeA [TX]) Apr 19, 2024 8:57 PM
       AC coolant leaked out (by Vee [OH]) Apr 20, 2024 8:39 AM
       AC coolant leaked out (by Allym [NJ]) Apr 20, 2024 10:42 AM
       AC coolant leaked out (by Vee [OH]) Apr 21, 2024 5:24 PM
       AC coolant leaked out (by Allym [NJ]) Apr 21, 2024 9:49 PM
       AC coolant leaked out (by MC [PA]) Apr 22, 2024 5:32 AM
       AC coolant leaked out (by zero [IN]) Apr 22, 2024 8:00 AM
       AC coolant leaked out (by Vee [OH]) Apr 22, 2024 10:16 AM
       AC coolant leaked out (by Vee [OH]) Apr 22, 2024 10:34 AM
       AC coolant leaked out (by Allym [NJ]) Apr 22, 2024 1:40 PM
       AC coolant leaked out (by Vee [OH]) Apr 23, 2024 7:27 AM

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AC coolant leaked out (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2024 6:20 PM
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So it was in the 70s last week. Tenant with medical issues had AC cranked up. He calls me Wednesday, temperature is 73 in the house. I call AC repair, nice older Princeton Company with polite workers. Coil is frozen in his apt. on the second floor. AC tech says it has to thaw before he can work anything. Thankfully temperature plummets to fifty daytime, forty nightime. Coil thaws. He comes today and removes coolant to a canister. That takes time. Fills unit with nitrogen under pressure and looks for leaks. Could not find a leak. So I told him to go ahead and refill it with coolant. I can't say to just replace it anymore. Bad stock market and economy. So I have a 1,300 bill. It's a York. He says they had trouble with York and don't sell them anymore. It's a 2.5 he said. He changed the filter and it was one of those white thicker ones. I always used the blue and white ones that I could see through. Was that possibly part of the problem? So now I have to be concerned that it will leak more and this will be a repeat on a hot day. I will be looking for some window units for stand by in case this happens again. I have a rollaround for standby on my first floor. Funny but I looked at it and thought about this very thing last week . Any thoughts or comments about this whole thing? It's 410 coolant.

--173.61.xxx.xxx




AC coolant leaked out (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2024 6:39 PM
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Get rid of the unit and get a window unit for a couple hundred. Maybe get some electric baseboard heaters if needed if the existing unit does not work for the heat. Tell the tenant to only use the window unit for a/c. Save yourself thousands. --172.58.xxx.xxx




AC coolant leaked out (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2024 7:22 PM
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I hear ya... Going to start a thread with my rant soon. Glad you got the guy ac --172.59.xxx.xxx




AC coolant leaked out (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2024 7:39 PM
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Could be an air flow problem.

--76.129.xxx.xx




AC coolant leaked out (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2024 7:42 PM
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Our guy uses a stop leak and sometimes it works and sometimes not. --47.133.xxx.xxx




AC coolant leaked out (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2024 8:28 PM
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Some units do function better with a "lighter" filter. Just change it more often. --172.59.xxx.xxx




AC coolant leaked out (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2024 8:57 PM
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If he couldn't find a leak then it's probably a very slow leak. I have that situation in my own home, I have to have some added every other year when it freezes up. At some point I will have it replaced but so far I've gotten another 6 years out of it.

It's a quick fix. If it's not cooling I go look at the lines into the outside unit. If they have frost then turn the unit off and it will be thawed by the time the AC guy gets there. It takes him all of 15 minutes to top it off. --209.205.xxx.xx




AC coolant leaked out (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2024 8:39 AM
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A/C needs high air flow to take away the heat, skinny filters work fine and cost less to replace. The original refrigerant should be put back in, use a better leak detector to locate the faulty part/s then make a plan to repair, it is hard to repair something you can not find. --184.59.xxx.xx




AC coolant leaked out (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2024 10:42 AM
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Vee, what is a better leak detector? He used the squirt bottle with the soap in it.

Mike A. Thank you for the message. I think that is what I will do. Tech even suggested it but I thought trying to find the leak is the "right thing to do". Slightly more than 1K for the days work and the 401 coolant which was $100 a pound and he put in three pounds. The other one for the first floor took 4 pounds year before last and is still OK.

This is a 3,800 square foot small mansion and has all the necessary structure for central air so it would not be pro active to make it window units but I will find on for emergency for the second floor guy who has physical issues and needs to be cooler. Had a giant oak tree keeping it cool but it started to come down and the branches would have killed someone perhaps so now roof is exposed.

I will replace that "better quality" filter he pushed on me. Do they know they are creating problems? I told him I don't like that kind and he went on with the "oh it's better" crap. --173.61.xxx.xxx




AC coolant leaked out (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2024 5:24 PM
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I am old school but I us a halogen gas detector, a technology popularized in late 80's, when what we call freon was changing from di-cloroflouromethane which when released rises through the atomoshere dissolving ozone that partially protects earth from UV light out of control. Using soapy water from a squirt bottle how could she/he observe any thing in a highly active airstream? Once the airflow has ceased you may observe dripping but no evidence of any leak, although you have a cleaner coil you are chasing a small ball in tall grass - use appropriate titration solvent to match the oil carried by the refrigerant inside the system, and follow the residuals of a leak your service is being performed by a novice of novice technicians, I am certain you could do much better. --184.59.xxx.xx




AC coolant leaked out (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2024 9:49 PM
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Vee the tech made it sound like the soap would bubble up like leaking gas does in a gas pipe. So he had HVAC training since high school and courses at the local community college. So please explain "appropriate titration solvent". It was 410 coolant. How does one "follow the residuals of a leak"? Is there a stain on the coil? I'm still amazed at him telling me they don't clean the outside of the compressor area with a hose unless the customer asks and that's a separate charge. After years of techs making me go get a hose so they could clean the outside of the unit. I wonder what they call that course at the college? Maximizing profit at customers' expense, maybe --173.61.xxx.xxx




AC coolant leaked out (by MC [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2024 5:32 AM
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Not every is out to get you. Different people have different methods. As for the mansion you mentioned, no one says AC in every room. My Ts are that, we aren't buddies and I really don't want to know much about thier lives. I want criminal free, my rent paid and no stupid stuff. Everyone is great until there is a problem, then there is no respect. Distance yourself. --73.230.xxx.xx




AC coolant leaked out (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2024 8:00 AM
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I agree that a soapy water dispenser will get you nearly nowhere in this. If you are lucky you can see it bubble, but I doubt it will help.

I use soapy water for gas fittings. Had one HVAC guy that used his lighter to check. I nearly crapped my pants. He claimed that since the pressure is so much the gas will ignite but not go back into the pipe.

Either way I was scared and have never tried that myself. --107.147.xx.xx




AC coolant leaked out (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2024 10:16 AM
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I am getting a fresh load ofgiggles from this post, when the -system- is presurized to lets say 100PSI until the air flow carries away bubbles and the drippings dry off you might see bubbles, but only a very short time and from where? the flat part or the curve? If you could freeze time and nearby air you would get a glimpse of the origin of the leak. Herd to do this freeze process, so locating the leak will be not so much the leak but the residuals of the leak, a coroner does not roll a dead body around like chicken on a rotisery but hunts for the darkest blood stain of the blood type found in the carcass, the first entry wound. with 410 the oil carried is not a mineral oil but synthetic, which does not coagulate like oil in r12 or 22 systems, it is PAG oil which burns at a higher temperature, Polyalkylene Glycol so you will find dark staining where this leak has ocured, using a q-tip in alcohol where this leak has occured will have a green tint, the time has come for this technician to enroll in a refresher course in HVAC technology, with a few supplies from your medicine cabinet you will be able to locate your leak and send the tech to 5 guys to buy you lunch. All sinister comments aside locating leaks in a r21,22 system is quicker with the halogen detector and the staining will cover a wider footprint. Now with that out of the way the repair will be very much the same, hydro test the coil after droping a blob of braze the size of a match tip and resink under pressure to verify the leak is covered up strong. --184.59.xxx.xx




AC coolant leaked out (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2024 10:34 AM
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Just one more thing as Columbo often says ahead of a commercial break, natural gas (methane) will burn when there is oxygen to support combustion - none inside the pipe or the bubbles formed there with soap, I think they refrain from washing the actual compressor because the heat decays the seal where the wiring goes inside, flooding here will result in moisture filling the motor windings and when compressor cools more moisture is drawn in since the dew point has now lowered however on the next power up the unit will emit fireworks, you can simulate this by placing a electric dryer cord into a pail of water and safely turning on the breaker, this if a popular video prop to simulate a volcanoe, liven up your next family picnic after dark, this may cure some relatives of the habit of smoking but is not approved by the AMA. --184.59.xxx.xx




AC coolant leaked out (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2024 1:40 PM
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Vee, thank you for the explanations. So if the compressor is not on at the time the dirt and dust is flooded with the hose is that OK? I am trying to rationalize why so many HVAC people in the past insisted on washing debris off the coils around the compressor. And the current fellow told me that air has a hard time flowing through dirt and debris on the coil. I can see that. --173.61.xxx.xxx




AC coolant leaked out (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 7:27 AM
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Washing the coils is very helpful, reverse flow the water to push out what was drawn in by air flow. keep the water away from the pump body where the wiring goes in the side. the advertised coil cleaner has a 3-5 percent mild sulfuric acid which foams pushing the organic clippings from between the fins, rinse out that gook avoiding the wiring side of the pump. --184.59.xxx.xx



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