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Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert J [CA]) Jan 3, 2024 12:12 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Jan 3, 2024 2:20 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Jan 3, 2024 2:27 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert J [CA]) Jan 3, 2024 2:54 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Jan 3, 2024 3:01 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by RB [TN]) Jan 3, 2024 3:43 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Ken [NY]) Jan 3, 2024 4:31 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Jan 3, 2024 4:40 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Jan 3, 2024 4:43 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Jan 3, 2024 6:55 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Jan 3, 2024 7:02 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Jan 3, 2024 7:27 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Jan 3, 2024 7:30 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Jan 3, 2024 7:44 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Jan 3, 2024 7:51 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Jan 3, 2024 8:00 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Jan 3, 2024 8:01 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Jan 3, 2024 8:41 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Jan 3, 2024 8:46 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Jan 3, 2024 8:54 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Jan 3, 2024 8:57 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Jan 3, 2024 10:50 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jan 3, 2024 11:39 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Jan 4, 2024 7:30 AM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert J [CA]) Jan 4, 2024 10:56 AM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by tim [CA]) Jan 4, 2024 3:58 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert J [CA]) Jan 4, 2024 4:09 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Jan 4, 2024 4:16 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by 6x6 [TN]) Jan 4, 2024 8:01 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Jan 5, 2024 12:32 AM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert J [CA]) Jan 5, 2024 12:45 AM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Jan 5, 2024 12:22 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Jan 5, 2024 12:57 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Jan 5, 2024 12:59 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Jan 5, 2024 2:04 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Jan 5, 2024 2:18 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Jan 5, 2024 3:42 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert J [CA]) Jan 5, 2024 3:54 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Jan 5, 2024 5:02 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by 6x6 [TN]) Jan 5, 2024 8:04 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by zero [IN]) Jan 6, 2024 7:39 AM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert J [CA]) Jan 6, 2024 12:25 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Jason [VA]) Jan 6, 2024 12:34 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Jan 6, 2024 2:03 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Jan 6, 2024 2:10 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert J [CA]) Jan 6, 2024 2:51 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by 6x6 [TN]) Jan 6, 2024 7:31 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Jan 6, 2024 8:18 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Jan 7, 2024 1:49 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert J [CA]) Jan 7, 2024 2:57 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Jan 7, 2024 4:23 PM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by zero [IN]) Jan 8, 2024 7:23 AM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Jan 8, 2024 7:37 AM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by RB [TN]) Jan 9, 2024 10:19 AM
       Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert J [CA]) Jan 9, 2024 12:17 PM


Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 12:12 PM
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I was trying to explain to a real judge that the Free Legal Aid Attorney in court, was NOT the Squatters legal representative. The judge then looked at the papers filed and made a statement of fact, "His name is on the papers so he is the Attorney of Record!"

So all of the correspondence between myself, the squatter and the "other" attorney from Free Legal Aid has no bearing on the case.

So I had to TALK OVER THE JUDGE so the Court Reporter would enter into the record that "Free Legal Aid" substituted attorney for this court appearance, because they knew their client, the Squatter, is a lying and gaming the system to file the case with a waver of fee's, having over $200,000 in World Bank/Savings and a professional squatter with many past cases of abusing the system set in place to help those in need.

The court personal and Judge said it's not their department or job to deal with payment of fee's. And if I talk over him again, he will have me removed!

So I said that I was never served and this case should be dismissed, but you are giving the squatter a third shot at the wheel. How unfair. But I am ready to proceed since the attorney here from Free Legal Aid hasn't a clue and hasn't so much as 1 piece of paper with this case evidence.

The judge asked me to present my proof. I said the respondent, Free legal aid, has to first present their case against me. THE JUDGE THEN SAID HE CAN PROCEED ANYWAY HE WANTS. I said that I can wait to hear the charges against me from the squatter, who wasn't even there.

The judge held the case over for 3 weeks, allowing the squatter to feel better. No more continuances allowed.

--47.155.xx.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 2:20 PM
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So you presumed to tell the Judge about the law>

That was dumb.

So, the legal aid attorneys office sent a different associate to appear in court. Happens all the time. The attorney who appeared filed an affidavit of appearance on behalf of the client, so yes, he is the attorney of record.

"So all of the correspondence between myself, the squatter and the "other" attorney from Free Legal Aid has no bearing on the case." You can show all the correspondence; What bearing SHOULD IT HAVE on the case? Did he promise you anything? The attorney is substitutable as a personality.

You say that you were never served. But the judge has a sworn affidavit of service. Plus, you showed up in court, didn't you?

Then you tell the judge that the plaintiff has to present his case first, and he tells you to proceed. Well, the plaintiff probably presented a prima facia case in his papers, and didn't have to do more, so the judge told you to get on with your defense.

You screwed up, Robert. You weren't smart.

You will NEVER succeed by arguing with the judge. You must CONVINCE the judge that your version is the RIGHT one, and you can never change that.

--47.139.x.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 2:27 PM
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Moshe, why is it dumb to tell the judge about the law? That’s a lawyers job for the plaintiff and the defendant. If Robert J is representating himself, then that’s his job. Just because someone is elected to judge does not mean they know anything about the law. --24.152.xxx.xx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 2:54 PM
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Thank you NE! Moshe, I am dumb, because I once believed in the system. I've seen the City do witness tampering, document destruction, lying, bulling, file false charges and more. --47.155.xx.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 3:01 PM
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Oh, Robert J, what a powerful statement that is! I am dumb, because I once believed in the system! Facts. --174.240.xxx.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 3:43 PM
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Life isn't hard, people are. --69.130.xxx.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 4:31 PM
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NE, it is the attorneys job to present the law to the judge but it needs to be done in a manner that is not picking a fight or trying to make the judge look like an idiot --74.77.xx.xx




Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 4:40 PM
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We do what we have to to win in the areas we operate and live in. Dealing with the things that Robert J claims to deal with, it seems like talking over the judge is probably necessary at times. --24.152.xxx.xx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 4:43 PM
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" why is it dumb to tell the judge about the law?"

Because if you make him look ignorant AND HE IS RIGHT, you are at such a disadvantage, you will probably lose just because you don't have an airtight case.

If you think the judge is WRONG, there are ways to do it. "Your honor, may I point out section so-and-so of the Code of Civil Procedure? it seems to me that that section REQUIRES an attorney to give 24 hours advance notice of change in attorney-of-record. Am I wrong?"

and you will probably get a more patient explanation of why you are full of baloney and the judge was right all along.

Los Angeles County has excellent judges, and they are rarely wrong (avoid Judges Pro Tem and other temporary judges).

But you MUST be polite AND PROFESSIONAL, in your behavior, your presentation AND YOUR ARGUMENT, and especially in minor matters like routine housing, evictions, squatters, rent nonpayments, because a good judge would rather be hearing something more important.

I find that one of the things that YOU CAN TRUST IN L.A. is the Courts. They are NOT THE CITY.

You're dumb because you don't know how to perform in front of a judge. You can't treat them like tenants.

--47.139.x.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 6:55 PM
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A lot of judges ARE tenants these days! --64.246.xxx.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 7:02 PM
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Mapleleaf, it’s funny that you bring that up. Back in 2009, I had a property for sale and a potential buyer came and offered me some money down to hold the mortgage for them and the realtor swore up and down it was a good deal. The buyers swore up and down. It was a good deal. The guy was a federal judge. Anyway, for whatever reason I ended up passing. I think it was because I didn’t really have any interest in holding a mortgage at that time. Come to find out, they ended up getting a property next-door to rental that I had maybe 8 to 10 miles away. I’m assuming that they did a rent to own with the lady on the property and took her for thousands and thousands of dollars. They somehow swindled her into keeping the electric in her name and ran up thousands of dollars. The kids TRASHED the house!

Then she tried to shut it off and I said oh no, you’re not, you’re well is deeded to service my property from the 1930s and you’re going to continue to do so. I got a lawyer and the power company involved and the electric stayed in her name with the tenants running the bill up and even after she kicked the tenants out.

She ended up losing the house.

So just because you’re a judge, doesn’t mean you’re not a scumbag too. --24.152.xxx.xx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 7:27 PM
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Homeowners or tenants, judges know how to deal with obligations, responsibilities, and orderly decision-making processes. Unlike tenants as usually described on these pages, Judges are educated men & women who have usually already achieved some competence in logical decision-making.

But often, landlords sometimes fall into the class of not-so-well educated individuals, who do not know how professional people carry out their assignments.

In professional endeavors, logic and the logical, thinking-mans rules are at practice. Arguing with the judge will only bring about losing, because a professional judge will demand logic, proof and good reason in making his decision. You will find very little patience for illogic, phoneyness, theatrics, impoliteness and poorly-organized and presented cases.

RobertJ tried to speak over the judge's own presentation, thereby losing the train of logic and careful argument that the law requires. He thought that he would get his poor conduct "into the record", but instead, he only antagonized the judge who, together with his colleagues on the Appellate bench, will resent his failure to abide by the rules of professionalism and not take his arguments seriously.

NE also thinks to "We do what we have to to win in the areas we operate and live in." But, if it is his objective to "win", rather than to arrive at the correct answer, then the judge will likely discover that intention and rule accordingly.

You NEVER win by discounting the rules of professionalism.

--47.139.x.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 7:30 PM
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The goal is always to win. Even the guy who’s incorrect wants to win Moshe. --24.152.xxx.xx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 7:44 PM
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NE, I don't understand your tale.

So, you were offered se a property that you passed up.

But somehow, "they" took some lady for thousands and thousands of dollars. How were you involved?

So she tries to shut off the electricity, and you said NO. How were you involved?

So next, YOU got a lawyer and, I guess you lost, because you're not happy with the result.

But if I understand the real issue, it seems to be that the initial buyer of the house was a federal judge who must have done something wrong and thats why you are complaining about his character.

But I don't understand all the pieces.

--47.139.x.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 7:51 PM
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"The goal is always to win. Even the guy who’s incorrect wants to win Moshe."

Do you think that judges don't see that when it happens?

So you advocate filing lawsuits when you don't really have a case? Do you think that judges don't see THAT when it happens?

The rules of professionalism look down on conduct like that. Do it too often and you will not have any credibility left, and you will have to suffer the reputation of being a phoney.

--47.139.x.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 8:00 PM
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You missed the part where they moved across town instead, right next-door to a rental that I happened to own Moshe. There continues the tale. --24.152.xxx.xx




Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 8:01 PM
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I don’t file frivolous lawsuits. Why would I? I also don’t think that judges are infallible. That would be foolish. --24.152.xxx.xx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 8:41 PM
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"You missed the part where they moved across town instead, right next-door to a rental that I happened to own Moshe. There continues the tale."

Yes, but why are you so angry about the Judge, because he moved next-door to your rental?

--47.139.x.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 8:46 PM
Message:

Who said I was angry? --24.152.xxx.xx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 8:54 PM
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I thought, that you thought, that the "goal" is always to win.

I believe that the goal is to be right.

No one is "infallible", not enough those that judge other people. I don't know what you have for judges, but ours are pretty good (mighty good). I have never seen a judgement that I didn't agree with, sometimes because the cause was right, other times because the presentation didn't warrant success.

Judges need to know about rights and responsibilities and to judge fairly. They don't need to be infallible. Most of the time, they are right, at least around here.

And the best way to keep them being right is to follow the rules of professionalism when you are before them. They'll be professional in return.

RobertJ didn't follow the rules of professionalism, so he lost, and he will lose again.

--47.139.x.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 8:57 PM
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What’s the appeals process for then? --24.152.xxx.xx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 10:50 PM
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The appeals process is for correcting judicial errors when the judge DID make a mistake.

--47.139.x.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jan 3, 2024 11:39 PM
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Once the tenant is evicted then can get a judgement where further can take tenant to small claims court for cleaning and damages. If the tenant is collectable then can take action. --207.236.xxx.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 4, 2024 7:30 AM
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It was a rhetorical question Moshe. --24.152.xxx.xx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jan 4, 2024 10:56 AM
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The A-hole Judge looks at a document he has and takes it on face value, making all of his rulings based on a sheet of paper with no one taking responsibility for its lies, misstated facts and untruth's.

It's like saying your single family rental is "Park Place New York City" worth 2.5 Billions so you can pay a $100,000 fine. --47.155.xx.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by tim [CA]) Posted on: Jan 4, 2024 3:58 PM
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Talking over the judge is always a losing strategy. Wait your turn to speak. --108.201.xx.xx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jan 4, 2024 4:09 PM
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You are right Tim, but if I don't stop the judge dead in his tracks, he will rule and they never will change a ruling unless I file an appeal.

Like a judge was going to stop me from inspecting a rental of mine, he wanted a handyman to do so in my place. I had to explain that I was liable for a "semi-professionals" mistakes and a handyman is not licensed, bonded or insured. On the other hand I am a licensed professional, bonded and insured -- and besides being an expert at performing the job, I'm also a licensed State Inspector able to over rule a City Inspector because they are not required to be a trained to obtain a "city inspector in name only". --47.155.xx.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 4, 2024 4:16 PM
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I have to side with Robert J, given the circumstances here. Anybody that’s been here for sometime can see two clear extremes coming out of the area he operates in. Roberts, extreme and Moshe’s extreme. Nevertheless, compared to most people in the rest of the country, they both operate in an environment that most of us would never survive in.

When you have the harebrained far left extremism that comes out of both the policies and politics in California, it does not surprise me that Robert had to do what he did. Provided all details are accurate. --174.240.xxx.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jan 4, 2024 8:01 PM
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Interesting debate. --73.190.xxx.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Jan 5, 2024 12:32 AM
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So, the Judge “looks at a document he has and takes it on face value, making all of his rulings based on a sheet of paper with no one taking responsibility for its lies”

And then he tells you, “The judge asked me to present my proof” Well, did you?

The plaintiff presented his complaint with exhibits. That’s his case. So now, it was up to you to discredit that document in your turn. Did You? Or, were you so intent on being rude to the judge, trying to play tricks like trying to embarrass the judge, that you never got around to impeaching the document or even presenting any proof on your side at all?

No wonder you lost!

If you decide to appeal, then don’t be surprised that the appellate judge will have made up HIS mind even before your hearing, based on the documents (including your original document and the transcript) and not to mention yesterdays lunch with your original trial judge. The trial judge didn’t do anything wrong. He read the document(s), heard any testimony that was given [there wasn’t any], then heard your testimony, exhibits and other proofs that you presented [there wasn’t any] and made his decision. You, of course, cut your throat with your behavior. The judge didn’t do anything wrong.

You know, you don’t get a NEW TRIAL on appeal (not in CA Superior Court, since I presume that you were suing to eject the squatter). You get a hearing on THE RECORD to determine if the trial judge erred. But it doesn’t seem that he did.

Nexr you remonstrate that “Like a judge was going to stop me from inspecting a rental of mine”.

Surely you are aware that in CA, a landlord is not permitted to enter a tenant’s rental for purpose of “inspection”, without the tenant’s consent [except for one particular type of inspection]. And, in City of Los Angeles, landlord is also civilly liable to tenant for harassment if he abuses the right of access. So, it seems that THIS judge did a pretty good job of "stop[ing] me from inspecting a rental of mine".

You made a fool of yourself in court, and probably the whole courthouse heard about it. You may need to be very careful the next time you appear before any judge in that courthouse.

--47.139.x.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jan 5, 2024 12:45 AM
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In this case the respondent never served me and tired to get a default judgment against me. I showed up and told the court clerk who I was and that I found this case online, I showed him my document that the cause only posted online that morning and I made it to court on time before this case was heard. Squatter Vs Landlord, which I'm not -- I'm the owner not landlord.

The judge got the low down, I wasn't served, don't know the charges or accusations against me. So the respondent was represented by L.A.'s free legal aid and the squatters attorney, who I been in contact for 4 months wasn't there. Another clown from the free legal aid showed up to get a win, saying I was served and I hadn't responded or showed up. He had to change his tune and said he has no idea what the case was about and wanted a continuance -- giving the squatter more time, free rent.

In this case I'm in the hole for around $50,000. --47.155.xx.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Jan 5, 2024 12:22 PM
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So, the squatter is suing YOU, not the other way around. What did you do to him, that he is suing you for? Abuse of access to the unit?

You say that you were never served, but you “just happened to look online that morning” and, lo & behold, there’s a court case against you scheduled for that very morning. We all believe you because we love you. Why won’t the judge?

Next, you “told the COURT CLERK who I was and that I found this case online, I showed him my document that the cause only posted online that morning and I made it to court on time before this case was heard.” Why the clerk? He has no power to do anything about it. So, you abused the Judge who HAS the power to do something about it.

Well, it seems that the judge DID do something about “it”, and exactly the right thing: Since you complained that you hadn’t been served, that you “don't know the charges or accusations against me”. So, it seems that the Judge did EXACTLY the right thing that a good judge should do: He granted a continuance, so that you could read the charges or accusation and get an attorney yourself, and come back to court when your case is fully prepared. What other would you expect from an excellent judge?

Both you and NE lack the ability to assess the integrity of the “system”, because you are so accustomed to blaming your failures elsewhere, and you lack the logic and understanding of what you SHOULD do. For both of you, your mothers must been frightened by some tax revenue agent at a young age. There’s just no other way to explain your fear of organized society, except that you just don’t like living by rules.

You will probably come up now with some other story about this case that will make you hero of the downtrodden conservatives, in order to justify what you did in court. But by now, we all have your number, and don’t believe any of it. And your dislike of authority is complete nonsense for both you and NE.

--47.139.x.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 5, 2024 12:57 PM
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Moshe, I no longer believe in the integrity of the system. If it works in my favor, once in a while, great. Other than that too many shenanigans. --174.249.xx.xx




Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 5, 2024 12:59 PM
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Do you know what system I believe in now? Because it’s the one that I continuously see over and over. The man with the most money wins. So cheat to your level of wealth. That’s the game of the American system. It doesn’t matter if you’re right. --174.249.xx.xx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Jan 5, 2024 2:04 PM
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The system you "believe in":

I once met a professor who taught at Chicago, and he offered the following lesson:

"I once asked a guy if he believed in Baptism.

and the guy answered back,

Believe in it? Why, I've SEEN it."

Well, belief is a very personal matter, and is not necessarily based on logic or even good sense.

But here in the US, you get to believe in whatever floats your boat. You are entitled to have your own belief, regardless of anything, truth, experience, logic, accuracy.

But if you have had some bad experiences, you ought to inquire about its singularities, if not about if that assumption is a good way to proceed in life. Look at RobertJ, who makes up stories about how the government is evil and corrupt, because he doesn't really understand about being a landlord, despite his expertise in mechanical affairs.

But its not the game of the American system, you can't use that as an excuse. I know, because I lived in a totally corrupt country, and America isn't that way.

Maybe you should think about moving. Maybe your local environment is that way. We have our charlatans here too, but CA is nice. Look at how many people have moved here over he years, and stayed here, and love living here.

RobertJ doesn't know how to be a landlord. Thats why he has so many stories about his failures, and he blames them on corruption of CA rather than facing his own failures, like blowing off the judge. Don't be that way.

The integrity of the American system is there. You have to know how to use it.

--47.139.x.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 5, 2024 2:18 PM
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Believe in the integrity of the system? Haha ya right. Why? Covid! Case closed. I’ll never believe them again. As for using the American system, yes! 100%! It’s a weapon to be used by the man with the most money. --174.249.xx.xx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Jan 5, 2024 3:42 PM
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Suit yourself.

The American system allows you to be paranoid, short of harming yourself or someone else.

My personal response is that, if you really had such bad experiences, it was because you don't know how to use the system.

--47.139.x.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jan 5, 2024 3:54 PM
Message:

With other cases, different courts and judges, I've experienced here in Los Angeles, corruption, collusion, witness tampering, refusal to produce evidence, lying, making up case law, bending over backwards to protect elected officials and not defendants or plaintiffs.

My property rights were violated and no one cared. --47.155.xx.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Jan 5, 2024 5:02 PM
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Frankly, Robert, I don't believe you.

Perhaps, in complaining about violation of property rights, you may be referring to rights which you don't really have but which you WISH that you had but don't. Your references to being constantly cheated by government constitutes genuine illness and doesn't help you one bit about how to solve your problem.

You don't know how to be a landlord. I admire your advice about maintenance, but being a landlord takes a lot of other skills, too. Like, knowledge of the law, including EXACTLY what rights you have or don't have, and a sense of professionalism to be able to get along with other people, including tenants, professionals and government people. If you don't know that then you are lost, because the maintenance knowledge is the easiest to acquire, one can always just ask a professional handyman for advice or even to do the work and pay for it. The ability to present a problem and a viable solution is also necessary, as is the whole basis of dealing with people.

Being demonstrably truthful sure helps.

I sympathize with you for the fact that no one cares, but that doesn't bring you success, while the other attributes will.

--47.139.x.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jan 5, 2024 8:04 PM
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Moshe, I am not really sure how to phrase this or how to ask, but I am curious about something.

You mentioned about your home country as being corrupt. I find myself wondering a few things. What makes you think that your country you lived in before was corrupt? Also, isn't it possible that your determining of your countries corruption could be a similar type of assessment as to how NE has determined that the US is corrupt? I know I am not asking that very clearly but I am unsure how to ask. And, I don't mean that the corrupt matters are the same, but the determination process and reasoning may be. Hope that makes since. --73.190.xxx.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jan 6, 2024 7:39 AM
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Moshe, the first sentence in your last post nailed it.

If 1/10th of the things he says were true I believe the entire country would hear about it.

It ruins his credibility and it insults those of us that try to give advice or talk about the things that have actually happened in our lives.

Your patience with him is outstanding. --107.147.xx.xx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jan 6, 2024 12:25 PM
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You all can google the Los Angeles City Counsel and see that 1/4 of them over the last few years were found to have broken the law by taking bribes. Their punishment, resign and not be prosecuted. It's taken a while but some were found guilty and give a year to settle their personal matters before being sentenced in prison. Since the pandemic hit 4 years ago, the City, County and State have released non violent criminals due to medical reasons. So this thugs, City Counsel Criminals were give early release and "asked" were confine themselves to their homes! Which homes? No ankle bracelet?

The State passed a law 7 to 10 years ago that a person elected for living in a district, do not actually have to leave there. So MOST counsel elected officials and also members of the House of Representatives/State Seniors, that say they live in Watts, South Central, Van Nuys and other lower desired area, reside in 2 to 10 million dollar homes in Beverly Hills, Granada Hills, Woodland Hills, Hidden Hills and other high ranked Cities.

Everything I Claim about Judges, people in power with the Health Department, Housing, Building and Safety, Departments of Water & Power and more -- are far worse than I've ever stated.

I've had an attorney the day of trial withdraw from my case because he and his firm was Black mailed either quit or his firm will never get a good judge or court in any case ever again, and they will release to the attorney's wife pictures they took of them making out with an escort.

I've had several times when Free Legal Aid called up the court pretending to be my attorney and say, "We've settled so we need to withdrawal the case". I show up and court and learn my case was withdrawn by my lawyer. He tells the court that they never called, but the court wants me to refile and take another 9 months to see the inside of a court again.

If you look up Los Angeles eviction laws you will see that From February 01, 2020 to March 01, 2024, a landlord can not evict a tenant for not paying rent, if they tenant says the words, "Pandemic, Covid or tenant protection". If a landlord says, pay the rent or I will evict you. Then the landlord has to pay the tenant a $10,000 fine.

City and County Government makes rules, codes and laws only to enforce their Money Making System of Bribes.

--47.155.xx.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Jan 6, 2024 12:34 PM
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Picture it: 2027. “Dern, I wish I sold when I would have only lost 50% of the properties’ values”. Keep holding on to that descending boat anchor and enjoy the ride. --172.56.xxx.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Jan 6, 2024 2:03 PM
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6X6, you have posed a very important and serious question. Congratulations.

You have asked about, what was so corrupt in (what used to be) my home country, and how do we determine that the same factors aren’t present in NE’s perception of America.

Those are serious and important questions, and they deserve a serious answer. I don’t have time, right now, to ponder and answer, but I will try to think about it and answer you sometime this weekend.

--47.139.x.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 6, 2024 2:10 PM
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6x6, it is a good question. It’s easy for an immigrant to move from they describe as a crap nation to alot of Americans know as a crap city and consider it an improvement. They have a totally different perspective of someone born and raised in the heartland with multiple known generations of family roots here. Along with traceable roots to The Mayflower. Totally different perspecitves on whether or not this country is experiencing a fall from Grace.. Differing perspective even to the point that I don’t even want hear others opinions on it. Oh well. --24.152.xxx.xx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jan 6, 2024 2:51 PM
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If anyone, or even Moshe, would go to the two larges California Apartment Associations, AAGLA or the AOA, they are raising Millions of Dollars for their LEGAL OFFENSE suing:

The City of Los Angeles

The County of Los Angeles

The State of California

And others for all of the 100's (Hundreds) of Corrupt Laws put in place to PROTECT TENANTS against their Evil Landlords!

HAS ANYONE HEARD OF LOS ANGELES NEW "Threshold" law?

If a tenant owes you back rent, until a Threshold amount is sustained, you are not allowed to sue, evict or complain. For example if several persons, roommates, are sharing a rental and it's a 3 bedroom. And one occupant/tenant shop's paying their third. You can not evict anyone until the amount owed exceeds $3370.

Did you know that a landlord has to provide documentation to all tenants in Los Angeles, saying they need not pay rent and can contact L.A. Housing for the legal "Excuses" wording.

Did you know the last time I was in eviction court, last month, the judge did roll call again since my tenants did not show up. That judge then asked if when my Licensed Bonded Process Service and Attorney "served" my tenants with the eviction case, did we also send a copy to the "Court". If not the case would be ejected. Then the judge reviewed my lease and then commented, there are 4 occupants on the lease, did I try to serve them all at the rental and at their individual places of employment? Since my process severe wasn't there and non of my tenants were there, THAT BOZO THE CLOWN CONTINUED MY CASE FOR 30 DAYS AND THE COURT WOULD SEND OUT COPIES TO THE TENANTS BY CERTIFIED MAIL. Then 30 days later I had to pay for my attorney second appearance and the process server's court fee's. Another $750 day.

Then when the tenants showed up, they were not asked if they got served,or why they hadn't showed up. --47.155.xx.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jan 6, 2024 7:31 PM
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Thank you, Moshe. I will look forward to it. --73.190.xxx.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Jan 6, 2024 8:18 PM
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Talk about Corruption:

Friend of mine hired LOTUS WEST PROPERTY MANAGEMENT (owned & operated by 2 members of the Board of Directors of AAGLA) who ripped him off for thousands of dollars in phony repair bills, including a $1500 "move-in fee" after finding his own new tenant.

Then a former student of mine whose daughter lived in Westwood, had to send a demand to LOTUS WEST for her Security Deposit else she would go to court. She got back a letter from an attorney threatening thousands of dollars in legal expense if she persisted. Check out YELP.com entry for LOTUS WEST PROPERTIES. YELP has posted a CONSUMER ALERT on that site that states that "This business may have tried to abuse the legal system in an effort to stifle free speech, for example through legal threats or contractual gag clauses. As a reminder, reviewers who share their experiences have a First Amendment right to express their opinions on Yelp."

Whats more, my friend the landlord says that Daniel Yukelson, the managing director of AAGLA, gave them an award for "EXCELLENCE" and posted online recommendations for them, and thats why my friend hired them. One friend helping his other friends.

So much for AAGLA. I'll try to answer your MRL post later this weekend, Robert, with some more specific thoughts, if I get time.

--47.139.x.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Jan 7, 2024 1:49 PM
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RobertJ:

Oh, how my heart grows weary of dealing with your refusal to admit your sins and never give in no matter what.

AAGLA LAWSUIT:

The lawsuit that has been filed is “to Nullify and Enjoin the City of Los Angeles from Enforcing an Ordinance Prohibiting Landlords from Increasing Rent”., and NOT FOR CORRUPTION.

The action is filed against the City of Los Angeles, but NOT AGAINST The County of Los Angeles or The State of California, OR against “others for all of the 100's (Hundreds) of Corrupt Laws put in place to PROTECT TENANTS against their Evil Landlords!”. You just made those things up to try to impress us that the world is really out to get you simply because you’re a landlord.

Robert, you are certifiably nuttier that a fruitcake and you really need, at least a vacation if not professional help. I think that you don’t even know what a LEGAL OFFENSE is, much less to accuse anyone of it, or even to know if it makes any difference to anyone. You and NE (and Allym. too) are so paranoid about the evil US government, that you really fall into the category of “disturbed”. Do you even know what “corruption” means? Look it up.

THE LAST TIME I WAS IN EVICTION COURT, LAST MONTH:

We have actually TWO data points that make the same issue: 1) your story about how the judge in the Squatters case against you never served you, and you complained that the judge granted a continuance, (censored by MrL); and 2) your present story about how your tenants claim that they were never served, so the judge inquired about the legality of the service and then granted a continuance. And the court would send the papers by itself, by certified mail.

You complain about both cases as “corrupt”., but doesn’t that prove how Los Angeles really has excellent judges?

In each case, defendant(s) say they were never served. Since the judge doesn’t know who may be lying, he makes sure that every party received ALL of his rights to due process, and got to know the accusations and claims and with adequate time to prepare, Hurray for both judges!

Robert, it is not the case that the court is corrupt. You (and NE and Allym) just don’t like that Society has made rules that don’t suit you, so you are substituting your blame on the judges instead of on the problems that the system is trying to solve.

BUSINESSMEN AS OPPOSED TO HANDYMEN ACTING AS LANDLORDS:

You complain about the money that you feel forced to spend.

It is not enough for a landlord to know all about Septic tanks. What a businessman does is to deal with his problems, which may require expenses that he has to pay, and sometimes he has choices about various solutions for the problems. The businessman has to plan ahead for income and expenses, and if your budget for legal fees gets too high, you need to either raise your income to increase you budget, or to find ways to solve your problems with lower expenses, OR TO GO OUT OF BUSINESS because you are not a good businessman.

--47.139.x.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jan 7, 2024 2:57 PM
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I thank you for the time and efforts to explain your side and take on things. Once I was a great businessman. Owner of several Jewelry Stores, auto shops and millions in real estate.

Then California went into the insurance business with State Fund, a workers comp carrier. You know the story. The State made other insurance carriers in the state to STOP offering coverage for employee's workers comp policy on any property greater than a single family home, only for owner occupied.

Then the State became the premium coverage for sports teams. Over night my rates tripled. Once a basket ball player got benched for a knee injury and had to sit out a few games, State Fund had to kick in 2 million per game to cover his salary. My my coverage, for example, for a gardener that cut the grass on a 5 unit that got paid $100 per month from me, that's $1,200 per year, got recalculated from a $300 premium to $3,700 -- saying the gardener has 5 units to cut grass, like he uses his mower to level the interior carpet.

I had to be come self insured and got sued by the State three time. I won each time but cost me over $30,000 in Liar, I mean lawyer fee's.

I took private Karate Lessons from Bill Superfoot Wallace and shooting lessons from famous lawmen. Got a carry permit and this was not from defending myself from people who targeted Jewelers, but police and law makers too. If they can't steel my property, then they will try to kill me.

The Housing Department has over $750,000,000 in a trust account to buy property and then resale it, years up the road. So the Code enforcement will hassle the week and old and then an LLC will buy their family apartment property for half price or the take it away for non-compliance. Then they will let someone manage the property for 4 to 5 years and then allow them to buy the property, going into the pockets of the City elite.

Since you, Moshe, have very little property in L.A. city, you have not been harassed by them. In my case, I myself have over 100 rentals, and in partnership over 500.

Since I'm a Licensed Contractor, I effect most all repairs and remodels. Over 90% of my tenants over the last 45 years had Zero Issues with me. We get along. But people letters from Free Legal Aid and the City saying, "WHY PAY YOUR RENT? Pay us a one time fee of $500, and you can live RENT FREE FOR MONTHS"!

For the past 4 years, it's been an up hill battle because NO AGENCY in government is there to help landlords, only tenants.

Over 1 year ago the Judge in an eviction case was not listening to my testimony. Even though my attorney stated my claims, I had to reaffirm the facts. I stated that the tenant and his long term guest dealt drugs. They were arrested and released because of the pandemic. Since I dropped the dime on them because they wouldn't stop selling drugs, when they got out they damaged my property by setting fire to my storage shed. I told the judge I have a security video but he would not watch it. So I said that this was okay, because I have another video of him, the judge, with another female in his bed while his wife was traveling to visit her parents in NYC. The judge did not flinch because he was not listening to me. The Court Clerk had to repeat my claims. Then the Judge got all up tight and started to scream at me. I told him it's not my fault that he won't do his job.

That case made it up for review with the Head Judge of the Court House. Since this Judge was a lawyer who was given temp judgeship, like a commissioner in eviction courts, they found that he was a tenant fan and himself hated landlords and owned zero property. I had to give up my video with the judge and females in his bed. They were his family cats, all female sleeping with him while the wife was away. They said I twisted the facts. Like my tenants saying they never sold drugs, and the judge believed them. Those tenants had a criminal records, but that judge didn't care.

With 100's of tenants, my experiences are 95% positive. But I mostly cry about those 5% a holes that game the system and don't pay rent.

You see that every day in L.A.. people in groups go into stores and rob the place. For months no one did anything. But now since it's re election time, the Mayor and Governor claim they will not start taking action.

So you claim my reporting of unfair practices by the government is something made up in my head. Do you really thing that Jeffrey, Mr. Landlord, when coming to L.A. 4 to 6 times per year to give lectures doesn't speak with Dan/Jeff Faller and Dennis Block to see if my stories have any credibility? Their response, "I don't know if Robert personally has had all of those issues, but 30,000 members of the AOA and Hundreds of Clients of the Firm of Dennis P. Block, him him and his 23 attorny's to deal with the exact if not very similar issues.

So Moshe call Dennis Block or the AOA and ask them if any of my stories sound familiar? The will tell you that I'm not blowing smoke, but just telling it like it is in Los Angeles.

I told you I was there when Mayor Bradly took a $30,000 bribe for air space for the International Jewelry Building at 550 South Hill Street. I reported it and Fed's decided to let that go, since it was chump change back in the 1980s. --47.155.xx.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Jan 7, 2024 4:23 PM
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"Once I was a great businessman".

But then this happened and that happened and the state did this and the state did that and the judge sleeps with female cats while his wife is away.

A good businessman knows how to deal with problems, and if he doesn't know THAT, then he is not a good businessman. You don't seem to know how to deal with problems.

You fail to say, in ANY of your posts, what you might have, or did, learn from any of these terrible, terrible things that the bureaucracy has done to you. To me, LEARNING is the most important thing in the world, and that tells me what to do not be in that position again. I don't waste my time or my money on bureaucratic nonsense.

I had one experience with City government where I had to use a lawyer for one part, but not others, In the end, I had to solve the problem myself, but I got rid of my local City Councilman and the Police Division Commander. Its a good lesson in how to learn to beat the City. I could share it with you, upon request.

--47.139.x.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jan 8, 2024 7:23 AM
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Robert, the thing is you seem to be adding a lot into the stories.

One of the first posts I read from you was about batteries in smoke detectors. You claimed you personally engraved each one and that it saved you when a unit caught fire, because you walked up to a child's toy, removed the battery and it was one that you had engraved.

Being new to the forum I thought wow this guy really takes precautions and it paid off.

Then you posted more. It seemed like each post was a one-up for the last one.

You are telling us that you kicked a judge in the face. Your karate club showed up and beat up a SWAT team. You have pulled weapons on people that would get you shot and or killed if it were real. You get videos of people in positions of power that you can use against them. You hired exotic dancers to hang at a pool so your people would still work on a project for a TV star.

Sprinkle all this in with some of the things you claim to have done with rehabbing places that would be cost prohibitive if not entirely impossible.

I come here to learn. I add my two cents in too often but I do not make things up and especially do not give advice to others that is dangerous or illegal.

Embellish less and teach more.

I will now slip back into my little corner of the web to read, learn and enjoy this wonderful forum. --107.147.xx.xx




Judge wouldn't listen (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 8, 2024 7:37 AM
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Zero, same with Moshe. That’s my point. Both are ridiculous. --24.152.xxx.xx




Judge wouldn't listen (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2024 10:19 AM
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Entertainment value ? --69.130.xxx.xxx




Judge wouldn't listen (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2024 12:17 PM
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The American public couldn't phantom that X-President T_ump would be accused, prosecuted and made to look like a fool! The City of L.A. residents think that the government is there to protect the public. But State Laws limit one's right to own a gun or defend themselves against themselves from robbers, assaults or being victimized.

When the economy in 1990 took a 7 year decline, all City/County department had to think of creative ways to make up for lost revenue. The average San Fernando Valley home went from $250,000, down to around $160,000. That means annual property taxes fell from $3300 to 2,100. A loss of $1,200 a year. This means the police, fire, street maintenance, schools, teachers, etc had to make changes.

In City schools it was easy to resolve. From a class of less than 28 students, it then went to 32 students -- and kept on growing. Also the loss of Special tutors.

With the police, they stopped arresting people who committed infractions or ministers. Only serious felony's.

Also when the police made traffic stops, any suspicious item were confiscated for further investigation. Then never returned and sold at police auction.

So my stories on how I'm treated by officials is mild. It is customary for thugs to break my retail strip store plate glass widows and make off of valuables. But when my Windchill's Donuts Shop, Noah's Bagels or Star Bucks is vandalized, the police make it a priority to recover their free food-- you can't deny a fat over weight officer from his coffee and donuts without some payback. --47.155.xx.xxx





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