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Drainage lines (by Gene [OH]) Apr 25, 2019 11:43 AM
       Drainage lines (by myob [GA]) Apr 25, 2019 12:09 PM
       Drainage lines (by Robert J [CA]) Apr 25, 2019 12:47 PM
       Drainage lines (by MikeA [TX]) Apr 25, 2019 2:21 PM
       Drainage lines (by DJ [VA]) Apr 25, 2019 5:11 PM
       Drainage lines (by Jeff [OH]) Apr 25, 2019 5:35 PM
       Drainage lines (by Robert J [CA]) Apr 25, 2019 6:10 PM
       Drainage lines (by Opinionated [NC]) Apr 26, 2019 12:22 PM
       Drainage lines (by Vee [OH]) Apr 26, 2019 1:04 PM


Drainage lines (by Gene [OH]) Posted on: Apr 25, 2019 11:43 AM
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I have a slab house built in the 1950's with cast iron lines in the concrete slab. We are doing a total remodel and so have access to all the fittings above the floor and want to switch them out to plastic.

Once we have the pipes open, I want to have a camera run through the remaining pipe below the slab to verify that all looks well. The drains have been operating without any issues.

I had one plumber suggest that since I wanted to get a city permit for the plumbing work that he would want to cut open the concrete and replace all the piping under the slab. He stated that would be the only way to have it hold pressure and have the work pass the permit process.

Any thoughts? Would you leave alone the pipes below the slab and only change out the above ground fittings? --99.165.xx.xxx




Drainage lines (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Apr 25, 2019 12:09 PM
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why not come in from overhead instead? I've done this on several houses with the gray poly.

Yes I know about cold weather-- of course not as cold in GA as OH but we do freeze here. We wrapped the lines in heat tape and covered them well in the attic. --99.103.xxx.xxx




Drainage lines (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Apr 25, 2019 12:47 PM
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As a plumbing contractor and owner of 7 old homes on a slab, I've had to replace several drain lines under the slab. There are several methods. When I've had plumbing near outside walls, I re-ran the lines from under the slap to the outside and run new sewer lines along the property that then tied into the old line going to the sewer system.

Or I've sent my camera's down the drain lines under the slab and also reamed out the pipe walls to expose the condition of the pipes. Then I've sometimes installed pipe lining without breaking up the slab. Or I've cut into the slab in areas to gain access and with a tunneling device ran new drain pipes along the old lines. --47.156.xx.xx




Drainage lines (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Apr 25, 2019 2:21 PM
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Hold pressure? are you talking fresh water lines or sewer? The only pressure tests I 'm aware of are for gas lines or fresh water, not sewer.

I wouldn't replace just the above the slab pipe. If it's bad above then it's bad below. Having new pipe above will not keep you from having to gut it again to replace the lines below the slab.

If it were me, I'd run a camera through the main sewer line and make sure it's good. If it is I would also leave the pipe above alone. Iron pipe has an amazingly long life under most conditions. If it's bad then ask about other options rather than tunneling. Around here, there is a service that all the plumbers use for such occasions. They dig outside the foundation and then insert a "chipper" that feeds down the existing line and breaks it up. It leaves a large enough hole to feed the new pipe in. They still have to break the slab to tie in the toilets and sinks but it is much cheaper than tunneling. I've also heard good reviews of lining the existing pipe. --50.26.xx.xxx




Drainage lines (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Apr 25, 2019 5:11 PM
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If there is a problem found - or if you just want to be proactive while it's torn apart, I suggest: Rather than breaking up the slab, check out the liners that are available today - perhaps what Robert was referencing. They can make the inside of the old pipe like new, easier & quicker than jackhammering the slab, re-pouring it, and all that.

Just google "Main sewer drain liners" --68.10.xxx.x




Drainage lines (by Jeff [OH]) Posted on: Apr 25, 2019 5:35 PM
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I would call your county building inspector and ask...don’t be afraid, but if you are nervous use a fake name. In Summit county (Akron) they have always been upfront with me. Yes they do a pressure test on sewer (drain) lines, but how do you know it won’t pass? That plumber is assuming. Not hard to check. --142.54.xx.xxx




Drainage lines (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Apr 25, 2019 6:10 PM
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When water comes up from a crack in the slab when water is draining from a fixture such as a bathtub or washing machine the condition of an under the slab drain pipe is called into question.

I could do a pressure test. Check to see if the sewer main is blocked and drill some test holes in the slab to determine the distance and amount of water under the slab. I can also camera the line and use colored smoke while plugging the air stacks, drains and sewer line outside the structure.

Some or all of the above I can do myself as a plumbing contractor. I investigate, test and determine what the problem is.

One time I used a 4 foot long "pipe liner" and inserted it the sewer line and inflated it -- letting the epoxy to form around the liner and forming a pipe inside the old pipe. Then after 2 hours removed my expanding balloon. This method only costs a few hundred in materials but takes specialized equipment.

Several clients had sewer failures under a driveway with their clay sewer main. Instead of breaking and and removing the driveway to access and replace the sewer line I simply installed in interior liner and a closer clean-out.

Instead of redoing a $7,000 concrete driveway and $8,000 for a sewer replacement, I charged my client less than 2K.. --47.156.xx.xx




Drainage lines (by Opinionated [NC]) Posted on: Apr 26, 2019 12:22 PM
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Some slabs are "pretensioned". Cutting into those is asking for disaster. Cast iron can easily last 100 years. --66.44.xxx.xxx




Drainage lines (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Apr 26, 2019 1:04 PM
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You can prolly test it yourself, put a sewer balloon in the lawn tee and use a drain opener vibrating balloon, pour in yellow or red koolaid packets so you can find the leaks - very hard to locate clear water leaks. --76.188.xxx.xx





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