 pool in rental (by Molly [ID]) Apr 15, 2019 8:54 AM
 pool in rental (by Dee [AZ]) Apr 15, 2019 9:27 AM
pool in rental (by fred [CA]) Apr 15, 2019 10:11 AM
pool in rental (by JB [OR]) Apr 15, 2019 10:14 AM
pool in rental (by JB [OR]) Apr 15, 2019 10:19 AM
pool in rental (by Robert J [CA]) Apr 15, 2019 11:39 AM
pool in rental (by Mike45 [NV]) Apr 15, 2019 11:50 AM
pool in rental (by Deanna [TX]) Apr 15, 2019 2:01 PM
pool in rental (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Apr 15, 2019 2:07 PM
pool in rental (by dee [AZ]) Apr 15, 2019 2:47 PM
pool in rental (by dee [AZ]) Apr 15, 2019 2:47 PM
pool in rental (by Vee [OH]) Apr 15, 2019 4:20 PM
pool in rental (by Dee [AZ]) Apr 15, 2019 4:45 PM
pool in rental (by JB [OR]) Apr 15, 2019 5:12 PM
pool in rental (by Lynx [GA]) Apr 16, 2019 5:18 PM
pool in rental (by Dee [AZ]) Apr 16, 2019 5:45 PM
pool in rental (by Molly [ID]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2019 8:54 AM
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I have a friend in Boise, ID that wants to rent out one of her houses. The house has a swimming pool. She said she only needs the umbrella policy from all her business enterprises. In Idaho, is this true? What could be some problems with renting a house with a pool? --184.97.xxx.xxx |
pool in rental (by Dee [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2019 9:27 AM
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The biggest is child safety. You need to check with the city the property is in and see what regulations are required like a secure gate enclosure from access from house (windows and doors). In my city the rules apply to children under 7 years old. I rented one for awhile and I had them sign pool rules document regarding safety and told since I did not have a gate and no children are in the household per the rental agreement, they understood no children under 7 were allowed to occupy the premises. They otherwise released me of any liability for their usage of the pool. You could also check with a RE attorney too. BTW, umbrella policies have limitations and violating any law or not taking necessary precautions can void your insurance. --72.208.xxx.xx |
pool in rental (by fred [CA]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2019 10:11 AM
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The biggest issue is the liability. Even if you follow your city laws concerning a pool, and you have the pool fenced and locked AND you have a solid fence around your property - you can still be sued.
I remember a case when some neighborhood teenagers jumped over a 6' property fence, the pool fence without authorization...got injured in the process and collected &100,000 !
A second issue with a pool in your rental is maintenance, from the water to the equipment.
If a tenant asks me about a pool, my answer is: join a fitness club with a pool. --99.59.x.xxx |
pool in rental (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2019 10:14 AM
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A pool at a rental property is one of the worst liability hazards that one can have. It may also be a major obstacle with the insurance company.
I would have her check with the insurance carrier and find out about her liability and the insurance limitations after she lets them know this will be a rental. I don't like it at all!
BTW, she better have a good business umbrella policy as well. --24.20.xxx.xxx |
pool in rental (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2019 10:19 AM
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On a side note, I knew of a couple of partners in CA who owned a rental home with a pool. A young family lived there. They had a small child who wandered out the back door and drowned in that pool.
Last I had heard they hadn't yet been sued, but I know they weren't sleeping well for many months after that occurrence. --24.20.xxx.xxx |
pool in rental (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2019 11:39 AM
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Locking fence around the pool required in my State. Also i installed a water displacement alarm. A fool proof bottom drain cover so a child won't get stuck to it and drown. Special insurance. --47.156.xx.xx |
pool in rental (by Mike45 [NV]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2019 11:50 AM
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I see two issues:
1. Liability (so you need lots of insurance).
2. Maintenance. I would never trust a T to maintain the pool properly, so I would add the cost of monthly pool service to the rent and I would hire the pool service company myself.
--71.38.xx.xx |
pool in rental (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2019 2:01 PM
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I was going to say-- tenants have enough trouble keeping the grass mowed! I wouldn't be comfy expecting them to keep the mechanical bits in good order, keep the chemistry balanced, keep the pool skimmed and the crawler functional, keep things good through an Idaho winter, etc, etc, etc. --166.137.xxx.xxx |
pool in rental (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2019 2:07 PM
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Pool chemicals cost money, running the pool to prevent algae build-up costs money, it takes labor to clean and skim the pool every week and empty skimmer baskets when full. Failure to do any of these costs the pool owner money in repairs and decay. Also having the right ph balance means the difference between buildup on sides from too much and algae from too little. Also the filter is a pressure time bomb. If they don't backwash it and check the pressure weekly, the filter will explode from pressure build-up.
There's no way I want to have that much trust in a tenant. If they want to rent with pool, hire a pool service. Bet that will make rent too high. Or landlord needs to become a pool guy. --108.69.xxx.xxx |
pool in rental (by dee [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2019 2:47 PM
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You can find Pool Waiver sample forms online just can't give you the link or my post will be accepted since it's on a rivals site (maybe there's one on this site). Anyway, here is the info and you can hunt it online just google pool waiver:
"When a landlord manages a property with a pool, it is important to have tenants sign a swimming pool waiver. ?? constructed a sample swimming pool liability waiver and addendum that you can use as a guideline. This swimming pool waiver of liability form is only a guide.
Since each city and state has different laws, you should change it to conform to your local, state and federal laws and make sure that it also conforms to each property location" --72.208.xxx.xx |
pool in rental (by dee [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2019 2:47 PM
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You can find Pool Waiver sample forms online just can't give you the link or my post will be accepted since it's on a rivals site (maybe there's one on this site). Anyway, here is the info and you can hunt it online just google pool waiver:
"When a landlord manages a property with a pool, it is important to have tenants sign a swimming pool waiver. ?? constructed a sample swimming pool liability waiver and addendum that you can use as a guideline. This swimming pool waiver of liability form is only a guide.
Since each city and state has different laws, you should change it to conform to your local, state and federal laws and make sure that it also conforms to each property location" --72.208.xxx.xx |
pool in rental (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2019 4:20 PM
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Very unlikely a piece of paper will prevent a legal battle costing thousands in legal fees, if you can rent to alligators humans may not engage the water.
--66.213.xx.xx |
pool in rental (by Dee [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2019 4:45 PM
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I beg to differ that is what contracts are made of "paper" and when two people agree to the terms, it is inforced by the law just like your rental lease etc. The only time it wouldn't be inforced is if there was negligence involved. The person that posted the question should seek an attorneys opinion anyway to insure it is drafted correctly to cover all liabilities possible. I did my own waiver agreement plus pool safety rules and information on CPR classes and swimming classes offered in the area. You can use the samples available on line to create a draft and have it reviewed by the attorney. Good Luck! --72.208.xxx.xx |
pool in rental (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2019 5:12 PM
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Actually there are many ways a contract can be voided or dismissed in court.
"The only time it wouldn't be inforced is if there was negligence involved.
A person can't sign away their lawful legal rights. A person underage or unfit to enter a contract can't be held to the contract. A person who has been defrauded may be able to get out of a contract. And there are many other ways that a contract can be considered invalid. For that matter, a judge may just decide that any part of a contract shouldn't stand and strike it down. --24.20.xxx.xxx |
pool in rental (by Lynx [GA]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2019 5:18 PM
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My son has a rental house with a pool. He keeps it covered and does NOT allow tenants to use pool at all. I showed it to a prospective tenant and told him the pool was off limits. He said in a rather thick drawl, "Man that's like throwin' a bone to a dog, then taking it away from him." Maybe he was just trying to be funny and friendly, but it struck me a rebellious and resistant. NEXT!!! If I were yo buy that house from my son, the first thing I would do is fill in the pool. I don't do pools! --99.122.xx.xxx |
pool in rental (by Dee [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2019 5:45 PM
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The only way a contract is legally voided, yes of course, is for a reason already part of city/state/federal laws. Just as in my rental agreements, there is a section that says" if any part of this contract is deemed legally unenforceable by law, it does not void the rest of the contract. Yes you need to make sure you are not putting something into a contract that would alter or over turn laws already in place. I already mentioned to have an attorney look it over and get his stamp of approval if you have concerns it's binding and releases you from liabilities (again as long as there is not negligence involved). Otherwise, sell the property and don't rent it that will release you from liabilities too. And the guy who said it was like giving a dog a bone and taking it away was actually a good analogy and probably won't stop them from filling it up and using it anyway. --72.208.xxx.xx |
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