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new roof (by Laura [MD]) Apr 12, 2019 10:04 PM
       new roof (by Robert J [CA]) Apr 12, 2019 10:35 PM
       new roof (by Laura [MD]) Apr 12, 2019 10:41 PM
       new roof (by Steve [MA]) Apr 13, 2019 4:56 AM
       new roof (by plenty [MO]) Apr 13, 2019 4:58 AM
       new roof (by CGB [MI]) Apr 13, 2019 6:47 AM
       new roof (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Apr 13, 2019 2:18 PM

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new roof (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2019 10:04 PM

I am getting a new roof on one of the rentals. The quotes are varying by thousands. I was surprised to see this in one of the contracts submitted.

INSURANCE: The Contractor shall maintain insurance required under Workmen’s Compensation Law as well as public liability insurance. The Owner(s) shall maintain full fire insurance for fire protection and extended coverage to cover both the owner and Contractor.

Is he really expecting me to cover the insurance. So if he falls of my roof it is on my insurance to cover it. Is this normal or is he hoping no one reads/understands the contract he is asking them to sign?

new roof (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2019 10:35 PM

I am a licensed contractor. I am not allowed to insure other people's property. Only liability and failure of the job. You need to have your own policy to cover yourself and structure. --47.156.xx.xx

new roof (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2019 10:41 PM

So is this a standard clause? Question - if he falls off the roof (and I do not modify my current insurance to include him) who covers him falling off the roof?

new roof (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2019 4:56 AM

In MA, I've never used or seen a clause like this even on larger commercial jobs. It may very well be a state specific requirement.

My WC insurance is for injuries to any of my employees as well as any bystander who might get hurt trying to assist us. Since I've elected not to be included, my WC does not cover me. Instead I have a disability policy for my personal coverage both on & off the job site. Some states such as MA allow company owners to not carry WC on themselves. You want to be sure that anyone including the company owners are covered for personal injury while on your work site.

The liability insurance covers things like a ladder or piece of equipment damaging yours or someone else's property. This would be things like a ladder falling over & smashing into your car.

I imagine that the "The Owner(s) shall maintain full fire insurance for fire protection and extended coverage to cover both the owner and Contractor" is to make sure that you have the property including the materials being used by but not yet billed to you during the construction phase of the work. It covers things like the roofing supplies that are on site that get ruined by a fire before the contractor has been paid for them. It would not cover them if the fire was caused by the roofing contractor or his employees. For instance if he was installing torch down roofing & started a fire. His insurance would cover the damaged materials as well as any damage to your property.

Occasionally if I'm doing a project that has some unusual item of value that we will be working near, I have my agent add a rider just to cover it. For example we modified some antique stain glass decorative panels that were each valued at 10's of thousands of dollars. I wanted to be sure that if something happened that I would be adequately covered.

Your own insurance agent should be able to help you better understand what this clause actually means to you.

Once you decide on a company to do the roof, have their agent Email you a copy of their WC & liability insurance. You want to see the start dates & expiration dates as well as the coverage included in the policy. You do NOT want to have the contractor just give you this.


new roof (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2019 4:58 AM

You want contractors to have workmens comp.

new roof (by CGB [MI]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2019 6:47 AM

I am not an insurance specialist. You definitely want the contractor to have workmanship comp insurance. If he falls off your roof, it goes through his insurance. Your homeowners insurance will cover you if in the process of replacing the roof, a fire destroys your property. His policy likely has an exclusion for fire which is why it is specifically listed. He wants you to list him as additionally insured for purposes of fire which means even if he is negligent and causes a fire, your insurance company can not go after him or his insurance company for reimbursement and you will have a claim on your property. That being said, unlikely to have a fire with a shingled roof.

new roof (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2019 2:18 PM

If there is one layer of shingles then it is matter of installing 1"/2" wood strapping then can install a metal roof where there is no disposal expense. As there is more severe weather metal roofs are more durable then shingles which is basically renting a roof. View some videos on You Tube about metal roofs along with the shorter life expectancy option of shingles. There are even metal shingles out there. A roof should last at least 20 to 30 years. Three gauges of thickness from residential to medium then commercial grade. It is good to be concerned about price but life expectancy along with more weather resistant. I was in Germany for three weeks last year where they do even use shingles or fiberglass insulation. Clay tile, aluminum or steel. Once the measurements are known then can price out materials.

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