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need receipts for court (by melinda [MD]) Mar 26, 2019 11:12 AM
       need receipts for court (by plenty [MO]) Mar 26, 2019 11:31 AM
       need receipts for court (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Mar 26, 2019 11:35 AM
       need receipts for court (by Doogie [KS]) Mar 26, 2019 11:56 AM
       need receipts for court (by Ken [NY]) Mar 26, 2019 12:05 PM
       need receipts for court (by razorback_tim [AR]) Mar 26, 2019 12:10 PM
       need receipts for court (by Opinionated [NC]) Mar 26, 2019 12:58 PM
       need receipts for court (by myob [GA]) Mar 26, 2019 2:15 PM
       need receipts for court (by small potaotes [NY]) Mar 26, 2019 2:54 PM
       need receipts for court (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 26, 2019 3:18 PM
       need receipts for court (by RR78 [VA]) Mar 26, 2019 4:17 PM
       need receipts for court (by MikeA [TX]) Mar 26, 2019 5:10 PM
       need receipts for court (by Robert J [CA]) Mar 26, 2019 5:38 PM
       need receipts for court (by Vee [OH]) Mar 26, 2019 6:48 PM
       need receipts for court (by JKJ [MA]) Mar 26, 2019 7:09 PM
       need receipts for court (by CGB [MI]) Mar 27, 2019 5:57 AM


need receipts for court (by melinda [MD]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 11:12 AM
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In civil court last week we had to defend ourselves against a former tenant who believed that he left the house in pristine condition. In court We had the Housing Authority inspection, photos, and the contractor who did the needed work when he moved out. Judge gave us back $600 of the $2100 deposit. Said that we needed receipts to show her. We have never before had this happen. We are careful to deduct a reasonable amount for the work done. Examples-- We had to repaint the entire house (have photos of house which had been painted when they moved in)/ Charged $1000 for 4 Bedroom 1700 sf house. She gave us $150. Had to go to the dump 4 times to get rid of non working side by side refrigerator that he put in house (freezer did not work) that he found at the curb someplace. Also left his old leaking washer, dryer and rotted out bbq grill. He refused to remove this stuff. We got credited for 1 dump load from judge. It went on and on We are appealing the decision. Question--- Do you all bring receipts for necessary work after move out if you have to go to court? This was a new one for us. --24.233.xxx.xx




need receipts for court (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 11:31 AM
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Yes i have them. I bring them. And where i am i want to be 110% prepared when i take any money from deposit. I would appeal with receipts... not estimates but paid receipt and cancelled check and bank statements. Every proof need to erase all doubt. And pictures. Lots of pictures. --99.203.xx.xxx




need receipts for court (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 11:35 AM
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Yes, reciepts, depositions, witnesses, pictures, videos, alternate bids, business license copies, etc,. And reasons explained how and why you are legally entitled to what you want.

When you go to court you have to present your case in such a manner that the judge has NO CHOICE under the law but to award you what you want.

Quote the Codes, with copies, etc.

--47.216.xx.xxx




need receipts for court (by Doogie [KS]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 11:56 AM
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Need receipts for proof of payment and pictures for proof of repairs were needed.

Been in your shoes. I got like $800 or so because I couldn't prove everything. I was telling the truth, but couldn't prove it. Judges don't like landlords (blanket statement) and they will side with the tenant where they can. Leave no doubt of what you are saying. --72.209.xxx.xxx




need receipts for court (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 12:05 PM
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What do you mean judge gave you back $600 of the $2100 receipt? weren't you holding the deposit which would mean the tenant should have been suing you? --72.231.xxx.xxx




need receipts for court (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 12:10 PM
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I take receipts/invoices and cancelled checks. --107.77.xx.xx




need receipts for court (by Opinionated [NC]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 12:58 PM
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Yes, have them. And be sure to explain everyone of them in detail. Magistrate disallowed the items that I only presented to him. Talk about EVERY ONE of them. --66.44.xxx.x




need receipts for court (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 2:15 PM
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NO. we purchase in bulk and its left on the work truck or in the warehouse. So we may buy 200 light bulbs and 10 toilet seats 45.00 ea. at a time. Stove trays at 45.00 ea set, holes in walls by the 1x1 or 2x2. anything with freon will have a dump fee and freon fee or 45.00 and 45.00.

If you use the minimum charges and fees schedule-- it lists everything along with price that you can imagine. its part of the lease pages and is signed by tenant and manager. Here in this state I do a walk through and list all the damages and take pictures. Notice I didn't say prices because tenant already knows what the price is from the MC&Fee they signed.

Here's the kicker-- when you send them the list they can now dispute the list. (we encourage that) Maybe 1 in 10 will dispute and we give back generously cause they can't dispute it all. So we knock off a few things and still the price is up there. We have not lost 1 case using this. AND WE HAVE MANY cases.

Tenant will tell (yell at judge) there charging me 15.00 per light bulb-- we tell judge they didn't dispute it 12 months ago before they agreed to it when signing the lease -- so it's to late now. Judge agrees-- 15.00 for lights is a lot-- but you did agree. END of STORY. --99.103.xxx.xxx




need receipts for court (by small potaotes [NY]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 2:54 PM
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this is another reason to hire out the apartment damage and clean up. Judge does not view your time as having value, but w/ pictures and paid contractors you have a leg to stand on.

I do not have an extensive list of items like some here, but in my lease I have smoke and Co detector + fire extinguisher will cost $50 each to replace. I am thinking of adding fee to clean fridge because that is the other most common item. --24.194.xxx.xx




need receipts for court (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 3:18 PM
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Melinda,

We’re good at the court stuff but I still teach that it's a crabshoot. No way to perfectly know what the res will do/say/have photos/receipts/witnesses or a free atty to eat your lunch.

OR

The judge is sick and a substitute is judging,

OR

The judge is in a lousy mood

OR

The judge thinks all LLs are crooks.

For these reasons I work to settle OUTSIDE of court, even in the hall before the hearing. I’m willing to knock off a few bucks to settle with the judge and arguing. I recently removed $50 for mowing to gain agreement on a $6000 claim.

Also, I don’t go to win. I go to ANNIHILATE! Before photos, after photos, each labeled and priced, charges listed in the lease, EVERYTHING and ANYTHING that supports my claim. There is no second chance so it is all in one packet handed to the judge. So much EVIDENCE the judge must rule in my favor.

Plus court is not the time to give discounts or “go easy on them” - the people who tore up my house AND forced me to use court to get my house back.

My lease is clear: a full page, 2 columns STANDARD CLEANING AND REPAIR COSTS agreed and signed by the resident before we give them the keys. $50 per hour, $275 per room to repaint...

Based on your description I think you got a lousy judge.

Of your court is like mine the judge does not allow any new evidence in an appeal. He says “Show me where I was wrong.”

Understand your appeal makes your judge look bad so don’t expect any cooperation.

Learn the process for your court. Hiring an atty might help.

Best of luck!

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




need receipts for court (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 4:17 PM
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Yes, some judges can be very tenant friendly.

Best I have ever seen was one I had recently in one city we have. And a new judge.

Does not even ask for a copy or look at the lease or pay or quit.

Never ever had one this easy.

But your case. Our Judges consider it normal to re paint after ever tenant.

And sounds like you could prove your damages. But you could not prove what the damages cost you. That is done with cancelled checks and paid receipts.

So you are asking the Judge to guess at what he thinks it is worth. And he did.

We dont use it. But I see the value in what others are doing with a list of repair charges. It is another way.

So the Judge does not get to guess at the actual cost of damages.

And to change it. He would be rewriting or changing a written contract. Which they are not suppose to do unless some part is illegal. --73.152.xx.xxx




need receipts for court (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 5:10 PM
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I take the receipt or invoice and copy it onto letter paper with the before and after photos that go with it. I write a short description of the damage under the before photo and the work that was completed under the after. At the bottom right of the page I put the $ amount deducted (off of the receipt). Canceled checks get copied on one or two pages at the back. The first page is a list, each line an item deducted and the dollar amount with the total at the bottom.

That packet allows the judge to see the summary first, then flip through details on each deduction and then if they choose they can see that it has been paid.

Generally, the Judge will spend a couple of minutes on the summary page and the first couple of detail pages but once they realize it is well documented they don't go through the whole thing.

I don't have a lot of evictions so I haven't had to do this much, but it has always produced the outcome I wanted. --50.26.xx.xxx




need receipts for court (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 5:38 PM
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I was in Kangaroo Court, Los Angeles, California. A tenant only got back part of their security deposit and was suing the landlord for triple damages. I was their contractor.

No matter what the landlord said, It made no difference. The big bad mean rich landlord was taking advantage of the poor tenant.

Then I got a chance to state my case. I had the receipts I gave to my client for the work I performed plus a copy of their payment check, that I scan and attached to the now paid invoice.

I also brought proof. Cat pee carpet, padding and the replaced hard wood flooring. Pictures, lots of them. I was also there for the tenants move-out inspection and had an audio recording of it where the tenant admits she had 2 cats and had the carpet shampooed.

The judge said, "this did not matter because we took TOO LONG to Start and Complete the Project and didn't account within the proper time frame. I told off the Judge, I started the same day as soon as the tenant and owner left. The replacement of the damaged hardwood and the matching staining took extra time, 4 days. Then the unit needed to be painted. All this got done within 15 days and within the 21 day period we provided an accounting of the excess damage. The deposit only covered 1/3 of the damages and now that the tenant is suing the owner, they filed a counter claim for the balance due.

The saw all of the proof. Time line. Evidence of when we sent out the final accounting. I have the payment checks, invoice and pictures. The judge couldn't play games, we won the case.

The tenant was a protected class and so was the judge. That's why they thought they could win. Protected class is their style of life, nothing else. --47.156.xx.xx




need receipts for court (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 6:48 PM
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I don't try to bring a lot of pictures, movein - moveout on the back of the pictures I write the line item, example east bedroom wall line 6, repair damage - seal new drywall seams - prime - refinish color coat - 350. North bedroom door cracked, wall repairs, obtain new door - stain - varnish - set hinge and lockset locations, reuse hinges and lock - repair wall damage - seal - prime- refinish color coat - 550. On to the other rooms, give some detail why you had to refinish cause it costs more than someone off the street who says he will slop paint on the walls for 85bux, no your honor we do not have slopped up units and never intend to, the cost of refinishing the floors would be charged to the sloppy painter. Chances are the court staff has cars which get refinished not paint slopped onto a rough bondo job. --76.188.xxx.x




need receipts for court (by JKJ [MA]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 7:09 PM
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Long story short, yes.............I keep receipts for everything for the simple reason that no reasonable person is going to take your word for it especially in a court of law. Melinda, just a quick example, if you rented a car and returned the rental with damages, (let’s pretend for this purpose there is no insurance) and the rental company sued you for the repairs, would you just take their word for it that it cost $8000 to repair a dent? Or would you want proof in the form of receipts/repair invoices? --71.248.xxx.xxx




need receipts for court (by CGB [MI]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2019 5:57 AM
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What is the saying, "luck favors those who are prepared?" As above bring everything you have. Right or wrong, judges are biased against landlords. Bring pictures, receipts, cancelled checks, invoices etc. If your appeal is being heard in front of the same judge, you better bring more evidence than you did the first time otherwise she will see it as a waste of time. Try to get the contractors who performed the work to go to court with you. --67.149.xxx.xx





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