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Entering real estate (by Kent [MA]) Mar 26, 2019 6:23 AM
       Entering real estate (by David [MI]) Mar 26, 2019 6:24 AM
       Entering real estate (by WMH [NC]) Mar 26, 2019 6:34 AM
       Entering real estate (by myob [GA]) Mar 26, 2019 7:02 AM
       Entering real estate (by RathdrumGal [ID]) Mar 26, 2019 7:43 AM
       Entering real estate (by Doogie [KS]) Mar 26, 2019 8:20 AM
       Entering real estate (by Vee [OH]) Mar 26, 2019 8:33 AM
       Entering real estate (by Steve [MA]) Mar 26, 2019 8:35 AM
       Entering real estate (by plenty [MO]) Mar 26, 2019 8:37 AM
       Entering real estate (by JB [OR]) Mar 26, 2019 8:39 AM
       Entering real estate (by Robert J [CA]) Mar 26, 2019 9:43 AM
       Entering real estate (by Deanna [TX]) Mar 26, 2019 9:50 AM
       Entering real estate (by GKARL [PA]) Mar 26, 2019 11:41 AM
       Entering real estate (by Johnny B. [MA]) Mar 26, 2019 12:44 PM
       Entering real estate (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Mar 26, 2019 1:50 PM
       Entering real estate (by GKARL [PA]) Mar 26, 2019 5:29 PM
       Entering real estate (by ned [AL]) Mar 26, 2019 6:48 PM
       Entering real estate (by JB [OR]) Mar 26, 2019 7:21 PM
       Entering real estate (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Mar 26, 2019 8:18 PM
       Entering real estate (by myob [GA]) Mar 27, 2019 1:59 PM
       Entering real estate (by Nellie [ME]) Mar 27, 2019 8:22 PM
       Entering real estate (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 28, 2019 11:20 AM
       Entering real estate (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 28, 2019 11:21 AM


Entering real estate (by Kent [MA]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 6:23 AM
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Hi all, I’m looking to buy my first rental property. A three family apartment complex with a garage is preferable. I would to know what you all would consider as a good strategy for minimizing risk in the investment. I should add that I plan on living in one of the apartments/rooms.

Thanks!

Kent --66.87.xxx.xxx




Entering real estate (by David [MI]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 6:24 AM
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A big fat mortgage and lots and lots of insurance --144.250.xx.xx




Entering real estate (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 6:34 AM
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Your first step should be the Bootcamp advertised on this Board. INVALUABLE and will save you YEARS of tears. --50.82.xxx.xx




Entering real estate (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 7:02 AM
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find a local LL group. Notice I said group not mentor. Read the posts here. I can't tell you how much, even a seasoned LL learns here, each day. It's invaluable.

Second: target what you're looking for-- SFH's duplex-tri's multi unit complex. Maybe even VA or HUD foreclosures--

Whatever you target learn until you drop everything there is to know about your target.

We once had the Director of our local VA foreclosure division tell my wife and I-- "I can't stand working with you because you know more about the VA foreclosures then the people who work in my office".

Very proud moment.

Our first outing was the ol "let us save your credit" sell us your home. Went up to the door and wife has baby on her hip and 2 other small ones in living room. Husband on couch drunk. YEA let me help you-- we excused ourselves and sat in our car. I told my wife if this is the way to buy real estate-- I'm done. --99.103.xxx.xxx




Entering real estate (by RathdrumGal [ID]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 7:43 AM
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There is another big RE investment website that has written extensively on this subject. Google "house hacking", and I am sure you will find it. --98.146.xxx.xxx




Entering real estate (by Doogie [KS]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 8:20 AM
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The best advice I can give is education. Learn as much as you can. There are multiple sources you can go to, this site being one. Spend some time and read through a lot of the posts. Many here have talked about their mistakes (myself included). Learn from those and don't repeat them. --72.209.xxx.xxx




Entering real estate (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 8:33 AM
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I want to assume you have at least downloaded and read your local and state tenant rules, when you print them place into a 3 ring binder but flip the book when you put in the other set so they don't get mixed up. If you find something that seems so easy but is not clearly defined go visit housing court as an observer for 6-10 sessions learning how the court helps with partial payments, long term overnight guests, lawn parking, unauthorized animals, busted windows and police reports, narcotic sales from your place - everyone of us has had these events but your local court will have some way to help if your lease is worded legal and proper with least impact on owner/manager, find a couple investors groups close by and attend to learn of pending changes others share about things you think will effect your place soon.

Knowledge is power and the court always holds the business person responsible to know the rules.

--76.188.xxx.x




Entering real estate (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 8:35 AM
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You're off to a good start by visiting this site. Continue to stop by, participate in the discussions and read any of the post you can find on MA LLing.

Look for, join & participate in a local LL group.

Don't get emotionally attached to any prospective property.

Obtain & read the sixth edition of Property Management for Massachusetts Rental by H. John Fisher Owners available thru HAP Housing 413.233.1500

Start reading up on your local LL / Tenant laws, rules & regulations

Get a copy of the MA State Sanitation Code

Visit you local Housing Court or District Court during a hossing session --96.237.xx.xx




Entering real estate (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 8:37 AM
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Welcome! And congrats! Very exciting. Read this QandA daily. We are your cheerleaders! Ya! --99.203.xx.xxx




Entering real estate (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 8:39 AM
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Develop your own written screening criteria and use it. --24.20.xxx.xxx




Entering real estate (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 9:43 AM
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I purchased my first rental at age 18. I was lucky to be a hands on helper to other landlords since I was around 10, getting some knowledge.

I'm now a licensed contractor, landlord, investor, owner and property manager. Many of my "friends" and their adult children make the mistake in not getting a professional inspection that covers everything under the roof.

A general inspection just lightly touches base with appliances, heating/air conditioning, roof, plumbing, etc. They conduct a visual inspection and don't dig deeper into issues, like the sewer line. If it flows then it's okay? Not really. This is also true with pools. Just because you don't see a crack doesn't mean there's not a leak.

So from time to time I've conduced inspection for friends and clients. In one case I told the "buyers" to have a "lead Paint" and "asbestos" test done on the walls, ceilings and wood trim. Their broker said I was crazy and just looking to make a few bucks. I didn't put in a bid to test or correct anything, I just gave free advice.

So after my friends over paid for a property, they moved in a began construction updates. They wanted to remove a wall to make the kitchen and dining room an open concept. I walked in as asked to see their "lab" reports. They laughed at me like I was crazy. So I took my microscope from my vehicle and viewed the plaster thrown in the dumpster. It had asbestos fibers. They had been living in a construction sight with the air running contaminating the entire house and occupants. A few test for a few hundred dollars would have saved them from the $20,000 clean up.

If you don't know something, then get professional advice. --47.156.xx.xx




Entering real estate (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 9:50 AM
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Who do you want to rent to? Where do they want to live? Buy it.

Since you're going to be living there as well, make sure it's not a place too far above or beneath where you're comfortable.

Don't overbuy. Don't overpay. Don't overimprove. --166.137.xxx.xx




Entering real estate (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 11:41 AM
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There's a ton to learn from actually buying a property to managing it. It's not a full time business, but it's not completely hands off passive either. The biggest issue by far is tenant vetting and management. As far as learning about that, this site is the best I've found as you have everyday issues being discussed and solved here. I don't recall how I ran across this site but I'm glad I did. --64.121.xxx.xxx




Entering real estate (by Johnny B. [MA]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 12:44 PM
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The book that Steve[MA] recommended is a must read for anyone buying rentals in Mass. I would also recommend reading a good tax book because it will help you setup your systems. I like Every Landlords Tax Deduction Guide by NOLO. --24.147.xx.xxx




Entering real estate (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 1:50 PM
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Along with the good advice above, I recommend taking RE courses at the community college level if available. You learn the legal knowledge and how to calculate things like cap rate along with fair housing laws, as well as cycles in RE, escrow process, etc.

My spouse and I took the Broker and Escrow degree programs at Saddleback College in CA back in 2010-11. (She got AA/AS degrees, I got the certificates.) I see they now have a degree in Appraisal too. They are online, though out of state tuition might be prohibitive. Whether to get licensed or not afterward is another whole topic.

Also - go with a 4 plex not a three plex if you can. Though personally I wish I'd invested in SFH's. It is hard to sell multis when you want to get out. The only buyers are other cheapskate investors. :) SFHs you can sell to a retail buyer. On the surface a plus with multis is all your headaches are under one roof. But the downside is then ALL your headaches are under ONE roof! :)

Finally if you can avoid it don't live where your tenants can find you, unless you want them knocking on your door at 2 am because they plugged the toilet. Or if you get into issues with non payers. At best it can be uncomfortable, at worst, deadly. --47.216.xx.xxx




Entering real estate (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 5:29 PM
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LTD, I know the difficulty in selling MFH is conventional wisdom, but the market for these is very hot in my area and looks to be for quite some time. Yes, it could be the cycle, but otoh, folks are seeking alternatives to the stock market. --172.56.xx.xx




Entering real estate (by ned [AL]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 6:48 PM
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Make your offers low. Very low. So low you are embarrassed.

Buying it right is the best way to reduce risk.

Then, insurance.

Remember- no risk- no reward.

Look for the opportunity...go for it... and mitigate your risk as able. --70.92.xx.xx




Entering real estate (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 7:21 PM
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ned, if someone made me an offer that insulting I would either not respond or I'd tell to take their offer and shove it. --24.20.xxx.xxx




Entering real estate (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 8:18 PM
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What JB said. Also a reply to GCARL -

When I sold my last multi I had such ridiculous low ball offers I didn't even respond to a couple. And the property fell out of escrow three times! It was a nightmare sale. We are talking an immaculate property, with (finally) great tenants in an excellent location, not a distress sale.

In contrast my only other multi sale a few years ago was a breeze. Someone approached me with a fair offer, not what I wanted, but by then I knew I was a builder and renovator (flipper) and not really cut out to be a landlord. I grabbed it, doubled my money, and got out from under it.

As an aside the bank across the street from it was just robbed this afternoon for the FIFTH time since we've lived here! One time the robber ran right through our parking lot. --47.216.xx.xxx




Entering real estate (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2019 1:59 PM
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ned AL--------- you won't believe this Ned-- but we often offered more than asking price. When we were buying VA foreclosures-- we would offer 3 or 4K more. Some were 100% financing opr 3% down or 5% down.

There were reasons and many seasoned investors will know that TERMS of loans are very important as are kickbacks from agents who contribute to your success by giving you part of the RE commission back --- this gives you money for your next bid/purchase.

Nothing illegal about it on VA foreclosures as long as you tell them that's what the agent was doing. So our agent would make 6% commision -- 4K on a sale and keep 1K and give us the balance back. After ALL these years-- you know that 4K over asking means absolutely nothing now. I'm serious. So a property price was 50K we offered 53K at 6% 30 year VA loan-- we've refi'd many times and sucked all the cash out we could. --99.103.xxx.xxx




Entering real estate (by Nellie [ME]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2019 8:22 PM
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Buy a house that already has the deleaded paperwork done. And get a copy. Make multiple copies. Lead is bigger deal in Massachusetts than in some other states. Although it is a big pain my rear end up here, too! But a bigger one in yours. --70.105.xxx.xxx




Entering real estate (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2019 11:20 AM
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(A copy of what I replied to Andrew's post 5 up from yours)

Here's my advice to every new investor:

Knowledge is power and profit.

There is TONS of knowledge out there for what you hope to accomplish but it does not come to you. YOU have to get up and go get it. Invest in your knowledge as you would a college degree to earn a healthy six figure income for life. If you are smart enough to post here you can become rich thru RE.

You need to learn 3 new basic skills:

-Learn how to find properties and buy right

-Learn how to rehab/repair

-Learn how to manage a rental. Lotsa legal stuff and managing people to learn.

These can be learned one at at time in that order. Once you bought a property you can learn how to repair it and how to manage it.

How?

Get to National Landlord Convention in May. Learn from great speakers and rub shoulders with multi millionaires at dinner, etc. Millionaires don't come knocking on your door to teach you how to become rich. YOU must go to THEM. Convention is geared for that.

Convention and LL Boot Camp info is on this home page. The Convention agenda usually covers the basic topics I outlined.

Keep us posted! Jeffrey talks about using this forum as your Board of Directors for advice and guidance.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




Entering real estate (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2019 11:21 AM
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PS

Only take advice from happy, wealthy investors.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx





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