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tenant changed the lock (by alicewonder [TX]) Mar 25, 2019 3:49 PM
       tenant changed the lock (by Ve [OH]) Mar 25, 2019 4:22 PM
       tenant changed the lock (by Pmh [TX]) Mar 25, 2019 5:06 PM
       tenant changed the lock (by alicewonder [TX]) Mar 25, 2019 5:09 PM
       tenant changed the lock (by Busy [WI]) Mar 25, 2019 5:13 PM
       tenant changed the lock (by John... [MI]) Mar 25, 2019 5:21 PM
       tenant changed the lock (by plenty [MO]) Mar 25, 2019 5:30 PM
       tenant changed the lock (by small potatoes [NY]) Mar 25, 2019 8:17 PM
       tenant changed the lock (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Mar 25, 2019 8:28 PM
       tenant changed the lock (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Mar 25, 2019 9:17 PM
       tenant changed the lock (by Steve [MA]) Mar 26, 2019 3:53 AM
       tenant changed the lock (by NE [PA]) Mar 26, 2019 4:02 AM
       tenant changed the lock (by cjl [NY]) Mar 26, 2019 9:30 AM
       tenant changed the lock (by melinda [MD]) Mar 26, 2019 10:45 AM
       tenant changed the lock (by Busy [WI]) Mar 26, 2019 10:49 AM
       tenant changed the lock (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 26, 2019 10:12 PM
       tenant changed the lock (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 26, 2019 10:13 PM
       tenant changed the lock (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 26, 2019 10:18 PM

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tenant changed the lock (by alicewonder [TX]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 3:49 PM
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Hi, Landlords,

Here is the newest episode today.

My banker called and told me my tenant went to the bank to look for me. (quite weird.). So my banker called me and told me.

so, I texted the tenant and what was going on why went to the bank look for me. (NO, I never asked or told them so.)

They did not bother to call nor to email me for the following:

She said she lost the keys in the park on Sunday, 3/17, so, they replaced the door lock.

The reason they want to know how to get mail box key from the postal office, so they went to the bank to ask for me.

They never bothered to call or to email me. I am more than 100% sure that in the lease says they need to contact me first.

The lease gave them two keys, and a remote controller, too.

What would you do, if your tenant did that ?

I am waiting for her story to tell me. I am very shock and not believe they did that. Where is the locksmith, and how did they change the lock when they did not have a key?

--162.89.x.xx




tenant changed the lock (by Ve [OH]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 4:22 PM
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My lease states that locks on the landlord master cost 25bux each, and openers have a 200bux deposit, if it comes back when keys are returned they get that back if the deposit is not exhausted cleaning up damages. --76.188.xxx.xx




tenant changed the lock (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 5:06 PM
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I am still in shock you still in LL business --166.137.xxx.xxx




tenant changed the lock (by alicewonder [TX]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 5:09 PM
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of course, I am still in the LL business.

Just like all of you, so I have a story like this to share.

Isn't it wonderful and see how other human being doing.

Please be nice to each other. I am very qualified to be a LL just like you all. --162.89.x.xx




tenant changed the lock (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 5:13 PM
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I suspect they are sloppy about keeping track of papers, they lost their copy of the lease, lost your phone number when they changed phones last time. So, they lost ability to contact you. Might not be what happened, just a guess.

So, I suggest, give them all of the contact information again, including posting a copy of your contact information into the inside of a kitchen cabinet, or some other handy place.

And, I would make sure they give you a copy of the keys to the house, tell them to figure out how to contact you BEFORE making any changes, though you are glad they thought to safeguard the property.

And then do quarterly inspections if you arenít already, and give them your contact information with their monthly rent receipt. I actually think it was at least a little clever of them to think to contact the bank, knowing the bank knows how to contact you. They werenít necessarily doing anything other than what they said, keeping the house secure after losing keys, and figuring out a way to let you know.

However, I would rerun some of the background information on them, and do an inspection in the house to check the plumbing, windows, all that stuff that needs occasional checking. And, then fix a few things, since you are likely to find some things anyway. --70.92.xxx.xxx




tenant changed the lock (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 5:21 PM
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To answer your last question: You do not need a locksmith or a key to change an existing exterior door lock to something else in most cases. Assuming that they weren't locked OUT of the place, all they had to do was unscrew the existing lock and put in theirs.

- John...

--96.40.xx.xx




tenant changed the lock (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 5:30 PM
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I would ask for my locks back. And i want a key to my house... like RIGHT NOW! And then they would endure my speech on calling me first blah blah blah. --99.203.xx.xxx




tenant changed the lock (by small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 8:17 PM
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my lease says tenant is to use locksmith if I am unable to provide lockout service ($25) during business hours. Guess I should clarify locksmith can let them in but not change lock! I'm dumbfounded they didn't call you first.

I made a magnet with all contact info and it is on every refrigerator. --24.194.xx.xx




tenant changed the lock (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 8:28 PM
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If the tenant provides a key then there should be no problem if the lock is changed. If not then the locksmith should change the lock where they provide a key for the owner and tenants. Suppose there is fire or medical emergency then how will the tenant be taken out in time. They will break down the door then what. Most jurisdictions it is illegal for a tenant or owner to change lock without providing a key as this is considered a lock out. Some tenants think if they change the lock a sheriff will enforce the order. Consider contacting a landlords association where google to find one near the rental for advise. It is always better to have a dead bolt with a passage door so a key must be used to lock the door. That way the tenant can not lock themselves out. --147.194.xxx.xx




tenant changed the lock (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2019 9:17 PM
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The FIRST thing I did when we rented a condo while my spouse was in college was to change the locks. THEN we renovated the condo to our tastes. No I didn't ask nor did I tell. LOL

I kept the 20 yr old chipped gold lock that who knows had a key to in a box under the sink. And actually when we moved, after the LL got foreclosed in 2008 I put it back on.

And in my final act of defiance to the bank as we left I snapped both keys off in the locks. F-U. :) --47.216.xx.xxx




tenant changed the lock (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 3:53 AM
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I'd be more concerned about why they went to see a banker looking for me than the lock issue. I'd like to hear more about their reasoning for this.

The only time I experienced a tenant changing a lot, I removed their lock, left a notice in their mail box regarding lock changes & taped a notice on each of their doors to contact me for a new key. I also sent them a bill for the lock change. --96.237.xx.xx




tenant changed the lock (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 4:02 AM
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Steve, I wondered the same about the bank. My guess is that's where they pay their rent into a deposit acct.

Pretty stupid on the banks part to give out any info associated with that acct.

Both moves are strange on the tenants part. The locks and visiting the bank. I've never had tenants change the locks. --50.107.xxx.xxx




tenant changed the lock (by cjl [NY]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 9:30 AM
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I've only had one tenant change the locks and I'm not really sure why he did. The locks WERE all keyed the same but he changed out one door that had a handle and deadbolt. Used TWO DIFFERENT KEYS.

I just shook my head when he gave me the keys back.

I was a bit fuzzy on why the tenant would go to the bank too. Must be they never have any conversation with the owner/landlord?

As for locksmiths - if they have to come out to change a lock because you lost your keys/ locked out - I've found they don't just "open" the door. They actually either drill the lock OR screw it up so bad (by picking it) that it no longer works. So you have to change the locks anyway. --69.201.xx.xxx




tenant changed the lock (by melinda [MD]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 10:45 AM
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Over the years we have had the tenant change locks without informing/asking us . They usually do not bother to give us a key either. Last one put in one of those number touch locks and when they left they pulled the directions off of the back of the lock so that we could not reprogram it. Charmers. --24.233.xxx.xx




tenant changed the lock (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 10:49 AM
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NE, I suspect that's where rent is paid as well. Bank didn't give out Alicewonder's information, bank contacted ALicewonder, said, "Your tenants are trying to get a hold of you,' is how I understood that.

Tenants DO change phones a lot, don't always transfer contacts over. ANd don't always keep track of their lease, other papers. So, its very conceivable to me that tenant had an incident, maybe purse was stolen?lost? with house keys and cellphone in it, thus lost landlord's contact information. I thought it was pretty clever of the tenant to go to the bank where rent is paid and ask them to contact ALicewonder to tell Alicewonder to make contact with the tenant. If any of us lost our cell phones, would we have ALL of the contacts in there written down elsewhere?

Alicewonder, I had a tenant lose my contact information once. What she did then was held off on paying rent. I texted her with just the word 'Rent?" Within minutes, she texted back saying, "Rent and late fee was just deposited. I lost my phone, didn't have your number. I waited to pay rent hoping you would text me. Sorry for the inconvenience." Now, my tenants know I don't mind occasional late fees, so I thought this was a good solution on her part.

I went over and added my contact information to inside her kitchen cabinet, but, she takes it down, because she says she has lots of relatives that keep asking if she'll give them her landlord's information because they need a place. She says, "Busy, you don't want to rent to these people, so I don't want them bugging you." LOL! I like that she prescreens them out for me. I do put my contact information on every monthly rent receipt now. --70.92.xxx.xxx




tenant changed the lock (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 10:12 PM
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Alice,

Locks are an everyday item in LLing and are addressed in a proper lease. What does your lease say?

My lease is clear: res may not change the locks. Should the res need the locks changed(divorce, lost keys, etc) management will change the locks for $5 per lock (Ernieís iCore cylinders. I want this cheaper than WalMart locks so what happened to you does not happen to me. )

Me?Set an appt and go there NOW to save my locks, reinstall, and swap the cylinders so my masterkey still works. THAT would be a $35 service call.

Replacing a missing lock is $50.

I too say going to the bank was clever and worked. People donít write down phone nipumbers they keep them in their phone, which can be lost, stolen, broken, or glitched. I do not know MY childrenís phone numbers, I just use the phoneís contact list.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




tenant changed the lock (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 10:13 PM
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And

RENT ON!

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




tenant changed the lock (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2019 10:18 PM
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Oh, and CONGRATS on keeping a professional distance as evidenced by the res not knowing where you live!

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx



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