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Semantics (by DJ [VA]) Mar 18, 2019 11:04 AM
       Semantics (by S i d [MO]) Mar 18, 2019 11:18 AM
       Semantics (by DJ [VA]) Mar 18, 2019 12:23 PM
       Semantics (by JKJ [MA]) Mar 18, 2019 2:04 PM
       Semantics (by JKJ [MA]) Mar 18, 2019 2:10 PM
       Semantics (by DJ [VA]) Mar 18, 2019 2:34 PM
       Semantics (by Vee [OH]) Mar 18, 2019 4:09 PM
       Semantics (by Jkj [MA]) Mar 18, 2019 7:03 PM
       Semantics (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 18, 2019 8:10 PM


Semantics (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Mar 18, 2019 11:04 AM
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I like the idea of getting new tenants to authorize an emergency contact to take their stuff - in case they get hospitalized, sick, die, evicted, incarcerated, whatever.

Better to say "I give permission for (contact person) to REMOVE or TAKE POSSESSION OF my personal items" ?

My thinking: "Remove" may be construed to say that (contact person) has to come get it, versus "take possession" could include having it delivered to them (AKA dumped on the porch/front yard)

Also: Any reason to not say that "ANY/ALL of my personal contacts has/have permission...." ?

--68.10.xxx.x




Semantics (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Mar 18, 2019 11:18 AM
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DJ, I like what you're doing...thinking about all the "gotchas" and covering your bases. But ultimately, it comes down to this: if you try to dump a load of stuff on someone's driveway and they tell you to scram and take it with you, then I doubt you'll have a leg to stand on.

Most stuff tenants leave is trash/junk. I keep the stuff that's decent and sell it or donate it. The rest just needs to go to the dump. The tenant can "authorize" whomever they want to receive their stuff, but if the person sees you pull up with your 30 foot dump bed truck full of Wal-Mart press board and the entire collection of Barry Manilowe CDs....they're probably going to get your license plate and call the police and report trespassing.

--173.20.xxx.xxx




Semantics (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Mar 18, 2019 12:23 PM
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LOL! Barry Manilow - now that takes me back!

I actually had a roomer get himself in jail, and his sister contacted me wanting his stuff. I want to tighten this up for next time. Better to plan pro-actively than just live reactively.

I already think it's a good thing to have in there, just a matter of wording / connotation. --68.10.xxx.x




Semantics (by JKJ [MA]) Posted on: Mar 18, 2019 2:04 PM
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I don’t know I agree with Sid, if you showed up at my place or called me and told me to grab all of so-in-so’s crap because they put my name down on their rental agreement to “take possession “ of their stuff I’d tell you where to put it in short order. Seems to me for that to be even remotely legal you would need a separate agreement that states the tenant gives you X __YOUR NAME__ authority to give your possession to X_NAME & ADDRESS__. in case of emergency and you are unable to retrieve them. Then the date, have it signed by all parties, and getting it notarized wouldn’t hurt. If you don’t have the person who owns the property as well as the person/persons who they want to receive the property all agree and sign a contract I believe you’d find yourself in a lot of trouble dumping their friends/family’s crap in their driveway and don’t have a snowballs chance in hell of getting them to come get it if they don’t want to. --71.248.xxx.xxx




Semantics (by JKJ [MA]) Posted on: Mar 18, 2019 2:10 PM
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DJ, I mean just imagine you are having dinner and you see a truck pull up filled with an apartments full of stuff, some guy you never meet comes walking up to the door and says to you where do you want this it’s so-in-so’s, your sisters-in-laws, brothers, ex-wife and she filled out your name to take her stuff in an emergency. Well she got locked up for cooking meth, where you want it? What would you say to the guy? --71.248.xxx.xxx




Semantics (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Mar 18, 2019 2:34 PM
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Yes. yes, but in the instance of my former roomer: all were in agreement, but didn't have signed permission. Really would (probably ; ) not do as y'all have described. --68.10.xxx.x




Semantics (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Mar 18, 2019 4:09 PM
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Authorized as an emergency contact, aunt sally, uncle bill, someone who offers to sign is golden, dump away...

--76.188.xxx.x




Semantics (by Jkj [MA]) Posted on: Mar 18, 2019 7:03 PM
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DJ, I see what you saying now. I thought you were looking to just have this in your standard rental agreement in the event a tenant left behind their crap you had a way to just unload it on some poor fool. If your talking about putting in writing something that’s already verbally been established between you, your tenant, and their friend/family member then a straight forward agreement signed by all parties should cover you. You could add if it’s not picked up with in so many days you have authority to dispose of it or drop it off at a predetermined location for a fee. --71.248.xxx.xxx




Semantics (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 18, 2019 8:10 PM
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LOVE Barry! The sound of our youth! Our first adult date after marriage we scraped together enough money to see him in concert.

Then again for our 35th anniversary.

DJ,

Something is better than nothing. They usually list a parent or grand.

Amd deliver during the day while they are at work! Or at 3 am:)

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx





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