Barking Prospects (by JB [OR]) Mar 13, 2019 10:13 PM|
Barking Prospects (by Still Learning [NH]) Mar 14, 2019 5:18 AM
Barking Prospects (by NE [PA]) Mar 14, 2019 5:19 AM
Barking Prospects (by RB [MI]) Mar 14, 2019 6:00 AM
Barking Prospects (by Jim In O C [CA]) Mar 14, 2019 6:08 AM
Barking Prospects (by plenty [MO]) Mar 14, 2019 6:35 AM
Barking Prospects (by DJ [VA]) Mar 14, 2019 8:38 AM
Barking Prospects (by Still Learning [NH]) Mar 14, 2019 10:10 AM
Barking Prospects (by Wilma [PA]) Mar 14, 2019 10:28 AM
Barking Prospects (by Lana [IN]) Mar 14, 2019 1:02 PM
Barking Prospects (by Robert J [CA]) Mar 15, 2019 5:36 AM
Barking Prospects (by Barb [MO]) Mar 15, 2019 5:52 AM
Barking Prospects (by Still Learning [NH]) Mar 15, 2019 12:32 PM
Barking Prospects (by Barb [MO]) Mar 15, 2019 1:21 PM
Barking Prospects (by DJ [VA]) Mar 15, 2019 3:25 PM
Barking Prospects (by Still Learning [NH]) Mar 15, 2019 9:05 PM
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Barking Prospects (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 10:13 PM
Blocked out a couple of hours for showings today following pre-screenings. Of the four top prospects two of them claimed service animals. Funny thing is neither brought their "service dog" with them...hmm.
This is just ridiculous. Luckily at least three are submitting apps and I have options. I would never leave myself with no options when these folks decide they want to play this game. --24.20.xxx.xxx
Barking Prospects (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 5:18 AM
I had that happen once. Is there any reason a service dog isnít always with their person? --24.61.xxx.xx
Barking Prospects (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 5:19 AM
The scammers are some of the easiest to disqualify. --50.32.xxx.xxx
Barking Prospects (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 6:00 AM
Barking Prospects (by Jim In O C [CA]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 6:08 AM
Last week I had a lady with an emotional support dog and cat which she did not bring with her. She did have beautiful registration pictures on her I-phone qualifying her pets. I guess that day she was not in need of any support. --99.23.xxx.x
Barking Prospects (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 6:35 AM
I beginning to think the need the pets ...sorry service animals... to endure my screening... i mean my SCREAMING "Next" so frustrating! Maybe i need a service animals for having to deal with all these people committing fraud at my open house! --99.203.xx.x
Barking Prospects (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 8:38 AM
You may be able to go out for periods of time without your ESA - they aren't really allowed in public places. However, I don't think someone with a true service animal would ever be without it.
This "seems" like it should be a way to catch them in a lie and disqualify. (if not afraid offing a test case)
Hopefully, our contributor who has a service animal will chime in here and offer some clarity to the question:
Would a person with a service animal ever go somewhere without it? --68.10.xxx.x
Barking Prospects (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 10:10 AM
I would love to hear John, I think MI, weigh in on this. To me, if itís a service dog that is allowed everywhere because of vision, Diabetic, balance, etc then how would they go out without it. What accommodation does a service dog provide only when you choose to have the dog with you? If the prospect shows up without the animal and calls it a service dog, could that be grounds to disqualify? I understand ESA is different and not allowed everywhere, but the prospect said service animal. Isnít that a lie by using the wrong language? Not that I would want to be the one to litigate that... --24.61.xxx.xx
Barking Prospects (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 10:28 AM
Use a fine-toothed-comb on those applications! Any little thing they've missed? Next. Can't get hold of their references? Next. You get the idea. A little foot-dragging on your part helps, too.
But like NE(PA) said - they usually disqualify themselves in some fashion, anyway. --71.175.xxx.xxx
Barking Prospects (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 1:02 PM
Most of these idiots don't know what a service animal is. What they usually want is an ESA. Maybe they bought little vests that say "Service Animal" on them from Amazon. I can't even go to Menard's without seeing little dogs with vests rolling around. I can hardly wait until they force every state but California, Oregon, and Washington to clamp down on the insanity. California will probably make Landlords responsible for poop. --216.23.xxx.xx
Barking Prospects (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2019 5:36 AM
I fell your pain and have to play the game with terrible tenants. --47.156.xx.xx
Barking Prospects (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2019 5:52 AM
Yes, I sometimes go without my Service Dog. Everyone I know with one does.
I work on a university campus. Some faculty are severely allergic, others are terrified of dogs. If I plan to meet with one of them, I crate Scooter at home for an hour (home is a block from my office). It is part of the give and take relationship of a professional.
If I am going to the dr, he generally stays home. It all depends on what Iím having done.
Often a service human is a better choice of an assistant. --64.251.xxx.xxx
Barking Prospects (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2019 12:32 PM
Thank you Barb --24.61.xxx.xx
Barking Prospects (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2019 1:21 PM
You are welcome!
Let me give a little more perspective. This morning, I was on my iPad eating breakfast. Now, I'm at a keyboard.
Having a service dog is kind of like taking a 2 or 3 year old everywhere. You have to load and unload them from a car, just like a small child. You have to watch their feet, just like a small child, all kinds of things.
You also have to deal with the public. Today, I stopped by the bank, and went inside rather than drive through. I had Scooter along. He correctly lay down by my feet and I did my deposits. It took a few minutes. Well, the next thing I know, Scooter has shifted and a new employee I've never seen before is on the floor petting my dog. He didn't ask, just came from behind and was petting my dog. He said he could just not resist my dog's face. Can you imagine? I gave a bit of a lecture about how doing that can put some SD partners at extreme risk, due to the job the dog may be trained to do. This isn't the only time it has happened.
On the other hand, they are generally well trained to do some tasks to hopefully make it worth while. For a guide dog, they can lead you where you hopefully want to go. They are supposed to alert when you are about to encounter something that prevents you from going forward, like a curb, drop off, etc. One person I know who is blind has been trained by her training organization to get from her apartment to the bus stop and back, which includes crossing a busy street with a light in a cross walk. She and the dog know to listen for the audible "Walk" and "Wait" now part of most cross walks. In a number of instances, she has heard the "Walk" and gotten ready to start forward, only for the dog to refuse to move and a car to zoom past (running the red). So, in her case, the dog has saved her from injury/death. The dog knows the way to and from a number of places.
In the case of another SD user I know, her dog is trained to help her monitor her blood sugar. She is a T1 diabetic from childhood, and struggles to control it. The dog signals if she goes high or low. The dog is usually alerting before she has any idea, which signals her to check her digital monitor and adjust from there. She eats the way she is supposed to, she is just that unregulated. That said, it is fairly easy for her to leave the dog at home for an hour or so if desired. She has even left the dog for a weekend when she wanted some time away, but she said that was scary. She was constantly checking the digital monitor.
The service dogs are both a blessing and a real hassle. --131.151.xx.xx
Barking Prospects (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2019 3:25 PM
Barb: Thank you so much for sharing all that insight. I was hoping you would post on this thread. I have again learned something new from you. --68.10.xxx.x
Barking Prospects (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2019 9:05 PM
Thank you again Barb. This board is lucky to have a member with a real service dog to share perspective with us. On a recent flight I watched a movie about what goes into training a service dog for visually impaired people. It is amazing what a real service animal can do. Now if only our country would start cracking down on the fakes that these entitled generations believe is their right and have no problem lying and paying money to get their way. --24.61.xxx.xx
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