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Pit bull or ? (by plenty [MO]) Mar 13, 2019 11:37 AM
       Pit bull or ? (by Kay [OK]) Mar 13, 2019 12:20 PM
       Pit bull or ? (by Kay [OK]) Mar 13, 2019 12:20 PM
       Pit bull or ? (by plenty [MO]) Mar 13, 2019 12:22 PM
       Pit bull or ? (by John... [MI]) Mar 13, 2019 12:34 PM
       Pit bull or ? (by LindaJ [NY]) Mar 13, 2019 12:57 PM
       Pit bull or ? (by CJ [MO]) Mar 13, 2019 1:07 PM
       Pit bull or ? (by Kay [OK]) Mar 13, 2019 1:20 PM
       Pit bull or ? (by Kay [OK]) Mar 13, 2019 1:20 PM
       Pit bull or ? (by 6x6 [TN]) Mar 13, 2019 2:08 PM
       Pit bull or ? (by Vee [OH]) Mar 13, 2019 6:28 PM
       Pit bull or ? (by MikA [TX]) Mar 13, 2019 6:48 PM
       Pit bull or ? (by JB [OR]) Mar 13, 2019 11:25 PM
       Pit bull or ? (by JB [OR]) Mar 13, 2019 11:28 PM
       Pit bull or ? (by Wilma [PA]) Mar 14, 2019 10:08 AM
       Pit bull or ? (by Lana [IN]) Mar 14, 2019 1:13 PM
       Pit bull or ? (by John... [MI]) Mar 16, 2019 2:02 PM
       Pit bull or ? (by John... [MI]) Mar 16, 2019 2:05 PM

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Pit bull or ? (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 11:37 AM
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Have a house listed for rent. Received a phone inquiry for showing. They state they have a dog and the breed is America Siesp 27lbs its a hunting dog like a Brantal. I had her spell the breeds but i dont come up with any dog breeds by that name. She also states the dog, which she called a pet, is an emotional support animal. Any idea as to these breeds? --99.203.xx.x




Pit bull or ? (by Kay [OK]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 12:20 PM
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After a quick search I couldn't find either breed. Also an emotional support animal isn't a pet and vice versa. I wouldn't pursue her. I'd just note in my records that those breeds don't exist as spelled. Have no idea if the dog is a Pit or not. It definitely is a pet. --72.202.xxx.xx




Pit bull or ? (by Kay [OK]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 12:20 PM
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After a quick search I couldn't find either breed. Also an emotional support animal isn't a pet and vice versa. I wouldn't pursue her. I'd just note in my records that those breeds don't exist as spelled. Have no idea if the dog is a Pit or not. It definitely is a pet. --72.202.xxx.xx




Pit bull or ? (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 12:22 PM
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Thanks Kay (ok). I agree. Few red flags here. Thanks for reply --99.203.xx.x




Pit bull or ? (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 12:34 PM
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Um, I would NOT recommend Kay's advice. Why? Because it doesn't MATTER what breed it is once they tell you it is an ESA.

I would not just note down "unknown breed" in your notes for someone that said that they had an ESA. Once they say ESA, breed really doesn't matter much as far as the law is concerned.

Don't get me wrong -- don't take this person if you don't want them -- but find a better reason than ANYTHING related to the dog once they told you it was an ESA. Denying now, based on anything related to the dog (even "breed doesn't exist") is a legal quagmire...

- John...

--24.180.xxx.xxx




Pit bull or ? (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 12:57 PM
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Never heard of those breeds at all, and certainly not a hunting dog. Of course these days, if you can identify the parents, you then string the names together and you have a designer dog. (yorkiepoo, berniedoodle, golden doodles, labernese, ) And they get big money for those mutts, more than purebreds around here. Started with the labradoodles.

Could they maybe not be good at spelling and it was "brindle" which is a coloring that is common in pits. And maybe a spitz dog which are bred more for the arctic areas.

Either way, at 27 lbs it puts in into the ankle-biter, yipper category for me. They don't seem to train well either. But that is my biased opinion.

--108.4.xxx.xx




Pit bull or ? (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 1:07 PM
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I learnt they alway find way to force landlord to take their pets/animals. I do not know how to enforce the animal rules anymore. But the person has to meet rent criteria first. --97.91.xxx.xxx




Pit bull or ? (by Kay [OK]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 1:20 PM
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Definitely, if there's anything else you can use to deny by all means. But doesn't the non-existent, as spelled, dog breed indicate untruthfulness? I wouldn't pursue it NOT because she says she has an ESA but because of lying. And I would not contact her anymore. --72.202.xxx.xx




Pit bull or ? (by Kay [OK]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 1:20 PM
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Definitely, if there's anything else you can use to deny by all means. But doesn't the non-existent, as spelled, dog breed indicate untruthfulness? I wouldn't pursue it NOT because she says she has an ESA but because of lying. And I would not contact her anymore. --72.202.xxx.xx




Pit bull or ? (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 2:08 PM
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She is probably lying about the breed and ESA for that matter.

You can probably catch her in other lies.

If it went far enough I would want vet records and I think you can ask for physicion's statement on ESA. There was reference a while back on another post on a web site for scotts law.

I think this ESA thing is out of control. It seems everyone is using this now. --73.120.xx.xxx




Pit bull or ? (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 6:28 PM
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Photo vet records are a legal request, the breed will be stated there and the fixed status with record of shots. The doctor produces the medical need, not the vet but often stated on vet records.I

--76.188.xxx.x




Pit bull or ? (by MikA [TX]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 6:48 PM
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Someone who refers to an "ESA" as a pet has already tipped their hand. Add to that two non existent breeds and you can guess what breed the animal is.

Find a way to put off showing them the house, hopefully a better applicant will be along shortly. --50.26.xx.xxx




Pit bull or ? (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 11:25 PM
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Don't waste your time with this hustler. She obviously is trying to pull one over on you. Just find another good prospect and find a good reason to ignore her.

I'm so sick of having to play their games. Let them find another sucker! --24.20.xxx.xxx




Pit bull or ? (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 11:28 PM
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BTW, I'm looking forward to Brad's input and then John's follow-up comment....so much fun! --24.20.xxx.xxx




Pit bull or ? (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 10:08 AM
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I was thinking designer dog myself - so many whacky combo names these days. When my brother raved about how wonderful his Golden Doodle was, and said, "No more mutts from the pound for me!", I said, "Uh, technically - your dog IS a mutt!" Fortunately, he found it funny.

I agree, find another way to disqualify. Screen very thoroughly, and look for things like an incomplete application, inability to contact references, etc. (I may or may not have blocked my number before calling the references of "red flag" applicants, which caused the references to reject my calls, resulting in an inability to screen - oh darn...) --71.175.xxx.xxx




Pit bull or ? (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2019 1:13 PM
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It will be a really cold day when I accept a CHERRY(remember that term) as an ESA. For one thing it's an excluded breed on my insurance and taking it would create a hardship on me. Also, a friends Pitty bit me years ago and having one in my house would really rev up my PTSD.

Just playing their game. --216.23.xxx.xx




Pit bull or ? (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Mar 16, 2019 2:02 PM
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I'm not convinced that the person was being dishonest about the breed here. I think this was just poor communication between then and plenty.

Heck, even plenty compares it to a "Brantal"? That isn't a breed either! I think they meant "Brindle" probably?

My point is, this whole "I can't find the breed thing" could easily have just been a misunderstanding. All I'm saying is, don't decide an important LEGAL issue based on what you may have simply misheard over the phone. :)

Let them apply. Get the application. See what it says for the breed. Then deny. :)

- John...

--96.40.xx.xx




Pit bull or ? (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Mar 16, 2019 2:05 PM
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JB: I can just give you the quick version now if you'd like. :) Brad would post and say that some local-yocal "official" told him a bunch of stuff that applies to the ADA and not the FHAA.

I would then reply and say that, as usual, Brad's advice doesn't apply to an ESA situation because the ADA doesn't apply to our situation as landlords -- that the law we worry about if the FHAA.

There ya go! Now Brad doesn't have to waste his time and you still get the fun! ;)

- John...

--96.40.xx.xx



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