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Do you hire tenants? (by Roy [AL]) Mar 12, 2019 2:09 AM
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       Do you hire tenants? (by Roy [AL]) Mar 12, 2019 5:26 AM
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       Do you hire tenants? (by Robert J [CA]) Mar 12, 2019 8:09 AM
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Do you hire tenants? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 2:09 AM
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If one of your tenants worked in a trade that you would normally hire out,....would you hire your own tenant to do work for you?

I have a tenant who is trying to create a painting business and he wants clients in the property management business. Two months ago, he called me looking for referrals and I gave him some.

I now need to hire a painter and was wondering if I should call my tenant back? --68.63.xxx.xxx




Do you hire tenants? (by James [GA]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 2:42 AM
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Call some of your referrals and see what they say... --62.216.xxx.xx




Do you hire tenants? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 3:39 AM
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James,

My referrals were other LL's who I have respect for. My question here involves whether it is a good idea to have an additional 'business relationship' with any tenant,..other than collecting rent once a month. I am trying to think if this could back fire on me and I lose a good tenant over it?

My handyman is installing new fascia boards today and I need someone to paint them when he is done. My handyman is a great carpenter but a horrible painter. --68.63.xxx.xxx




Do you hire tenants? (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 3:49 AM
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I have but only if they are really good tenants who I've had a long term relationship with.

I have hired one to do occasional lawn service when needed (he has a business) and another who is a licensed electrician. The electrician mostly does smaller jobs for me after work so more convenient for me and the tenants.

Just last week he replaced a ceiling fan at one place and rewired a kitchen light fixture with a failed ballast to convert it to LED. I've also used my tenants who do pavers on a couple of small jobs. --216.186.xxx.xx




Do you hire tenants? (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 3:50 AM
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Forgot to add that I also 1099 them when it's required. --216.186.xxx.xx




Do you hire tenants? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 4:15 AM
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Never ever. --50.32.xxx.xxx




Do you hire tenants? (by gevans [SC]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 4:41 AM
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Never once in 21 years.

--173.233.xxx.xx




Do you hire tenants? (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 4:55 AM
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Years ago I try it a couple of times. However like renting to family or friends, IMO it never ends well. --96.237.xx.xx




Do you hire tenants? (by Paulio [PA]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 5:01 AM
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Like Steve, I did it several times years ago. I didn’t know any better. Not a single one of those experiences was what I would call a good one. So my vote is No way, No how. --50.107.xxx.xxx




Do you hire tenants? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 5:26 AM
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To everyone who hired a tenant and did not like it,...what happened? Give some details here. --68.63.xxx.xxx




Do you hire tenants? (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 5:27 AM
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No. For the same reason I don't rent to family & friends.

30 years ago, maybe I'd have done it. Many people can't keep their heads on straight about relationships. You give an inch, they take a mile. Hire them for one job, then a month later they just want to work off their rent.

When their rent is late they think you should cut them slack "because I did such a good job for you and didn't charge you as much as I would normally charge a regular person." Suddenly, they will start calling in "favors" from 6 months ago that you never knew about or discussed at the time. But the tenant will be keeping score in his/her mind...even if the score is bogus!

It all goes south too quickly because of the screwy sense of entitlement in 50% of our population. So no, I never have, nor will I ever hire a current tenant for work. --173.20.xxx.xxx




Do you hire tenants? (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 5:49 AM
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I had a painter / spackler that I hired for jobs in other units. I paid him by the job, no trade for rent. Like any one I hire, I tell them what needs to be done, discuss how it should be done (their ideas vs mine) and make sure it is done as agreed. You could say when they are on my contractor time they are like any other contractor and not my tenant. He is not longer my tenant, but my friend still calls him for work.

Another tenant was a roofer, I hired him once, but he could command prices that I was not willing to pay, so I did not hire him again. One person I know got a quoted from him (independent of me) and mentioned his high price. But plenty of people paid him that.

It comes down to the person, the work they do, and the price. If all of that is acceptable to you, hire them. You probably know more about them then any other person you would hire for the job. Just don't get into trading for rent and don't pay them for work they might do in their unit. --108.4.xxx.xx




Do you hire tenants? (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 5:50 AM
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I vote no also, for reasons already stated.

And Roy, why would you refer someone to fellow landlords whose work you are not familiar with? Maybe he just SAYS he's a good painter. If he screws up on another LL's job, they may blame you.

I've hired someone referred by another local landlord who did a crappy job. It stings worse because I thought I had done well to get a referral, and put trust in their word. Now there is less trust.

Please, y'all - let's do our best to help each other. --68.10.xxx.x




Do you hire tenants? (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 5:54 AM
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Meanwhile, back at the Royal rentals.

(Gotta nice ring to it)

Fascia boards are (normally) painted before installation.

A Handyman who cant paint exterior Fascia boards ?

Mind boggling.

--184.53.x.x




Do you hire tenants? (by Paulio [PA]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 5:57 AM
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The people I hired all did sub-standard work and took wayyyy too long to complete it. Then they wanted a prevailing rate. And even though I was paying them, they each took the attitude that they were doing me a favor. It made for an awkward relationship all the way to the end. --174.201.xx.xx




Do you hire tenants? (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 5:58 AM
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We had other materials disappear. Thus was after years of excellent service and a relationship with boundaries. Took items, tools and disappeared. Bit of a mystery. Up until that point we trusted him. Shame cause he could do lots of task and was paid reasonable and it was a good gig until it wasn't! --99.203.xx.xxx




Do you hire tenants? (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 6:04 AM
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Professional landlords only use insured, licensed (when appropriate) contractors who are not tenants, friends, or relatives for work. Landlord hobbyists use the others. --76.120.xx.xx




Do you hire tenants? (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 6:14 AM
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I've tried it twice. Both times ended badly. The first guy oversold his experience-- he asked my handyguy questions about tiling that he should have known the answer to. I thought it was fortunate because I only used him for grunt labor... but he also had no brains. He ended up falling off a roof I had specifically told him not to worry about (scraping/painting-- just the low stuff) and nearly impaled himself on a post. He was cutting a tree branch which he was standing on. He was carrying a toilet to the street for DH-- and didn't empty it of water first. Those things, happening in quick succession. I decided to back off feeding him odd jobs-- but it was too late, I had already lost control. I was worried about his cracked ribs, hospital visits, and liability, so I didn't feel in a good spot to pressure him about the unauthorized pit. I drove past to give him a three-day notice for unpaid rent.. but he had a bunch of friends moving in a bookshelf from a truck, it looked like, and I didn't want to embarrass him in front of friends and coworkers. Later that night, he was doing a midnight move-out by candlelight, because he hadn't paid the electric company either. He got one load out, knocked over a taper, and burned down the house. We stood together in the parking lot across the street and watched it burn. It would have been $60k to salvage it-- we sold it for the price of the lot to a retired handyguy. That was 2012? 2013?

A few years pass. I've sworn off mixing tenants and business-- money only flows one way, right? I get a hand who has tremendous work ethic. I've got a little $350/mo garage apartment I don't appreciate. He's tired of living on his sister's couch-- he had just come back from out-of-state and hadn't pinned down his own place. He was going crazy with her kids, etc. So I went against my better judgment. It was just that crummy little place, right? But I flat-out told him I'd had bad experiences in the past. I don't mind losing a tenant, but I hate to lose a good hand. "Yeah, yeah..."

You know how it turned out, of course. I was more diligent in making sure money flowed one way, but he had no equal diligence in making sure it came back to me. I wasn't about to get into "labor for rent" games-- I just wanted my $350, on or before the 1st. But he always had a story as to why he wasn't paying rent-- some guy owes him $2k for a job and isn't paying; he was in the hospital and needed to buy emergency meds for his heart; etc. It turned out, he had a prescription drug problem he'd kept hidden from me and my other handyguy, who has a good nose for such things. He dropped him; I dropped him; I lost both a tenant and a handyguy, as I'd predicted. That was 2016, and I haven't been tempted to try again.

YMMV.

That was back in --166.137.xxx.xx




Do you hire tenants? (by Jason [PA]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 6:47 AM
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I have hired them some over the years and use them as day labor and sometimes it seemed like it was going OK but in the end I look back and it was not worth it.

I had a young single tenant that work night shift in a warehouse and he would help me for $11 an hour cash sum during the day. He was never a very good worker but he was just barely good enough to keep around when I was busy. So he claimed he lost his job and I evicted him for not paying the rent and he left ship behind just like the others and it bothers me more than the others --99.203.xx.xxx




Do you hire tenants? (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 6:51 AM
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You should ask this question on a painter's question board, this person is just starting a painting business at your expense right? Who will have to fix the leopard floor? Roy that's who unless you work with this person, remember the applicant question - can you work with me? Now you can!

--76.188.xxx.x




Do you hire tenants? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 7:13 AM
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I hire tenants to be tenants, hire pros for roofing, electric, most plumbing, all HVAC, and I’m the handyma’am.

Tenants job is to pay rent, get along with neighbors, stay out of trouble with the cops, keep the place relatively clean. My tenants would be confused if I added more to their job description. They might start to think they own the place. --70.92.xxx.xxx




Do you hire tenants? (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 7:24 AM
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I recently hired a tenant to clean the common areas of the rooming house. It's a simple job and I pay him $50 each time. He'll also handle turnovers which I'll pay extra for. He may be moving, but I'll keep him on if he does. So far so good, but it's early. I hired another former tenant to put in some locksets for me, he didn't have the tools nor the expertise to do the job properly. It's a mixed bag but I generally would not hire a tenant. Rooming house situation is a bit different as the guy is positioned to operate as a residential assistant. --64.121.xxx.xxx




Do you hire tenants? (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 8:09 AM
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I have tried this several times. If it's a tenant with "housing" skills such as a handyman or tradesman, it has worked against me 8 out of 10 times. But when it was a tenant who owns a business in a related field, it was great having a "professional" do work on their rental using high standards.

Examples:

Tenant, head of household renting a 4 bedroom home. He was a custom painter who worked for landlords. He always did great work.

A tenant who rented a room out in my rental home to a divorced guy needing work. He was an electrical engineer who did day jobs for his income. He needed work and always jumped right to it and got the job done ASAP.

An accountant who rented one of my high end apartments. Just got married again and could answer any tax question in great detail. When I had to go up against the IRS, when they found out he was coming to my hearing and sided with my issues, the IRS said, "Oh if Mel said I had filed my return correctly, then there's no need to continue my audit, case closed".

Other handyman would start a job and never have the time to complete it 100%. It would sit at 80% done. --47.156.xx.xx




Do you hire tenants? (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 8:14 AM
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I've seen how tenants paint. So no, I wouldn't hire a tenant to paint.

(I don't hire my tenants to do any sort of repairs or work. Keep the lines of the relationship clear) --98.146.xxx.xxx




Do you hire tenants? (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 8:18 AM
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Did years ago and won't do that again. For some reason they tend to think that you owe them something after the job is over. That will show up when rent is late or they want something fixed at their place. I want to keep some distance with tenants so they are uncomfortable and can't rely on a relationship if they aren't following the rules. --50.26.xx.xxx




Do you hire tenants? (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 8:24 AM
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Never hire unskilled or unqualified tenants to do work. Don't exchange their labor for reduced rent.

If you would hire them were they not your tenants (which I have done) then there has never been a problem. I see no problem in giving some work to a tenant of good character who is a professional in their field. So it really is situationally dependant. --216.186.xxx.xx




Do you hire tenants? (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 8:28 AM
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It's a bad idea to hire tenants. Period. --76.120.xx.xx




Do you hire tenants? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 9:26 AM
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Workman’s comp should be considered. This point was really hammered home for me when I slipped with a utility blade, got my finger pretty good. I had given our health insurance information to the intake/ billing clerk, but she was all amped up about ‘’class that she just took,’ and this is REALLY a workman’s comp claim’ very insistent. Took a bit for me, and the nurse who wanted to get to the business of cleaning the finger, quite a bit of insistence that, ‘No, this isn’t My landlord’s responsibility, I AM the landlord. It goes on MY health insurance.’

So, even if the tenant wouldn’t do that to you, if they have no health insurance the hospital wants to get paid or, even if they have health insurance, if there is some excited billing person there, it may well come back to you. And NOT as a property insurance claim, but workman’s comp.

I looked into workman’s comp insurance once, thinking I’d hire the neighbor kid who seemed pretty decent, had an interest in learning. Yikes! WC is expensive! Also, making false/ exaggerated claims is big business in my area. Lots of lawyers, advertising on tv all day long.

YMMV. --70.92.xxx.xxx




Do you hire tenants? (by WL [CA]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 10:25 AM
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I,be had good and bad experiences, had a ex navy plumber fix plumbing issues for cheap, same with a navy electrician. I prefer renting to tradesmen, since when disaster strikes, someone is available and there now. Professional tradesmen, unlike military tradesmen, view you as a cash source, so was the repair really needed or you just getting milked for cash? --201.140.xxx.xx




Do you hire tenants? (by melinda [MD]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 10:55 AM
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Great time for this. Just had one of my workers ask to borrow $1100. ughhhhh. no Seems that after a while folks assume that you are momma with a big wallet. --24.233.xxx.xx




Do you hire tenants? (by Adele [FL]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 11:40 AM
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No. Due to what everyone is saying. Injuries, worker’s comp issues, licensing - if you have them work on any units and they are not licensed, insured, etc. city can be called on you for their possibly shoddy work for another tenant. Plumbing issue, for instance, then you have more problems. And if they get hurt, you pay twice : 1. their injury and because they can’t pay you, 2. rent! --162.238.xx.xxx




Do you hire tenants? (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 11:51 AM
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Adele, what you described are problems, not issues. --76.120.xx.xx




Do you hire tenants? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 12:00 PM
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Adele, you are fine. Jeff has tried to explain the difference between problems/ issues/ concerns to many of us, or, at least to me. My wee little brain just refuses to comprehend. And, I would have used the word ‘issues’ where you did as well.

Jeff, it makes me smile. Cheers, my friend! --70.92.xxx.xxx




Do you hire tenants? (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 12:15 PM
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Busy[WI] it made me also smile

--96.237.xx.xx




Do you hire tenants? (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 12:22 PM
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The terms confuse a lot of people. Many folks are afraid to call a problem what it is - a problem, which something negative that needs a solution. An issue is a subject of debate, basically. --76.120.xx.xx




Do you hire tenants? (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 12:26 PM
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The answers to this question are getting convoluted a bit.

It is never wise to hire any unlicensed/uninsured workers to work on your rental property.

Any tenants I've had do work on my properties are all licensed (if required) and insured.

Personally I've not had any issues. And I'm upfront and clear. I don't want them to be afraid to say no, or "I don't have time" because they feel obligated to me. Clear communication prevents misunderstandings.

And it depends on the nature of the work as well as the relationship you have with the tenant. I wouldn't want to be among one of the first clients of a tenant starting a new business. --216.186.xxx.xx




Do you hire tenants? (by Jkj [MA]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 2:40 PM
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I also share the thought, it’s like renting to friends or family a bad idea. I have had tenants in the past offer. 1 offered to give me a (good deal) when he found I was having the chinmney repointed “he was a mason” and even had 1 offer to take care of my yard for free (they worked in landscaping) I politely declined. They were both really good tenants and I felt a slightly better estimate or not having to mow my own yard wasn’t worth the risk of jeopardizing that. --71.248.xxx.xxx




Do you hire tenants? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 4:15 PM
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Okay, Okay,..it seems the consensus here is to not hire your tenants,...I will take your advice and not call my tenant who is trying to build a client base. Deanna's reply was convincing enough.

--68.63.xxx.xxx




Do you hire tenants? (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 5:09 PM
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My hubby tried to hire tenants who had money troubles several times and it never worked out. I am glad hubby gradually lost his compassion.

Since he died, I never rent to employees and I never hire tenants. --216.23.xxx.xx




Do you hire tenants? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 5:48 PM
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Roy, you pose terrific questions that many, many people learn from. Names we may never know, because they aren’t comfortable posting, or ? But one way or the other, you are one of the biggest contributors on this forum. You ask great questions! --70.92.xxx.xxx




Do you hire tenants? (by Tim [IN]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 9:04 PM
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NO. The landlord tenant relationship is complicated enough. Don't add business which is whole another horse. This like watching Sister Wives on TLC. Man has 4 wives, constant chaos, complications. Keep it simple... Renter is a renter. Hired help does work. --166.137.xx.xxx




Do you hire tenants? (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 4:18 AM
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I did once and it worked out fine. This tenant had an existing business and was licensed and fully insured. Check went to company name. It was a small job but he did it well. I would never use anyone who wasn’t insured. --71.10.xxx.xxx




Do you hire tenants? (by Danno [IL]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2019 3:41 PM
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I've tried this approach several times, but they never worked out. Of course there are exceptions to the rule, but I'd think you have to know both the potential worker's demeanor, skills and quality of work for things to work out. --67.176.xxx.xxx



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