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Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Roy [AL]) Mar 11, 2019 5:03 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Mar 11, 2019 5:05 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Roy [AL]) Mar 11, 2019 5:16 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Mar 11, 2019 5:22 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by gevans [SC]) Mar 11, 2019 5:29 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Mar 11, 2019 5:30 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Mar 11, 2019 5:33 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Roy [AL]) Mar 11, 2019 5:38 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Mar 11, 2019 5:45 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Vee [OH]) Mar 11, 2019 5:47 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Mar 11, 2019 5:50 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Steve [MA]) Mar 11, 2019 6:08 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Jeff [CO]) Mar 11, 2019 6:55 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by plenty [MO]) Mar 11, 2019 7:19 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by RichE [IL]) Mar 11, 2019 7:32 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Mar 11, 2019 7:55 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Busy [WI]) Mar 11, 2019 8:19 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Mar 11, 2019 8:27 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Jeff [CO]) Mar 11, 2019 8:36 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by S i d [MO]) Mar 11, 2019 9:03 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Robert J [CA]) Mar 11, 2019 9:40 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Mar 11, 2019 10:03 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Jeff [CO]) Mar 11, 2019 10:09 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Busy [WI]) Mar 11, 2019 11:14 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by livethedream [AZ]) Mar 11, 2019 12:28 PM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Ken [NY]) Mar 11, 2019 2:48 PM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by fred [CA]) Mar 12, 2019 7:29 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Jeff [CO]) Mar 12, 2019 7:47 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Hoosier [IN]) Mar 12, 2019 7:49 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Hoosier [IN]) Mar 12, 2019 7:50 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Mar 12, 2019 7:51 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Steve [MA]) Mar 12, 2019 7:54 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Jeff [CO]) Mar 12, 2019 8:00 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Mar 12, 2019 8:01 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Jeff [CO]) Mar 12, 2019 8:03 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Busy [WI]) Mar 12, 2019 1:46 PM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Pmh [TX]) Mar 12, 2019 5:00 PM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Busy [WI]) Mar 12, 2019 5:53 PM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Dan [NY]) Mar 12, 2019 6:22 PM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Jeff [CO]) Mar 12, 2019 6:54 PM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by don [PA]) Mar 12, 2019 9:48 PM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by don [PA]) Mar 12, 2019 9:51 PM
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       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Mar 12, 2019 10:15 PM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Cjo’H [CT]) Mar 12, 2019 11:31 PM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Mar 13, 2019 4:36 AM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Pmh [TX]) Mar 13, 2019 3:13 PM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Danno [IL]) Mar 13, 2019 3:53 PM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Mar 13, 2019 4:08 PM
       Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Mar 13, 2019 7:00 PM

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Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 5:03 AM
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You are at one of your rental houses that has a 200 amp breaker box mounted on an outside wall. To do some exterior carpentry repairs using circular saws etc., you need 120 volt outlet mounted adjacent to the breaker box. You will need a 20 amp breaker, 14 gauge? Romex and probably a GFCI outlet with a protective cover.

Would you consider this a DIY project or would you hire an electrician to do it? If you hire it out, what is a reasonable cost for this service? --68.63.xxx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 5:05 AM
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You need 12 gauge wire with a 20 amp circuit. This is a very easy project if you know what you're doing. You will probably pay an electrician about $100 to come out and do this job. Maybe more if he provides material. --50.32.xxx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 5:16 AM
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NE,

Brain surgery is an easy operation IF you know what you are doing.

Can you give 'step by step' instructions on how to do this 'easy project'? I am going to call my electrician just to hear what he would charge me for service. --68.63.xxx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 5:22 AM
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On the left, right or bottom of your panel outside, you will have knockout holes. Take one that's for a standard 3/8 Romex connector and punch that out. You will then need a threaded gray PVC connector with a metal lock nut that will attach to the panel. Or a metal offset nipple or straight nipple.

Then once your offset nipple or PVC connectors attached to the panel, you'll either attach a box to the metal offset nipple or a piece of pipe to the PVC connector. If you attach a piece of gray PVC, you will need another PVC adapter with a metal lock not that will go into an outside box that will screw onto your siding. Once you get that conduit and box mounted, run your wire through their back to the panel. Then you will mount your receptacle and breaker as normal. Make sure you put a waterproof cover over top of it.

Material list: two 1/2" gray PVC threaded adapters with metal lock ring or a straight/offset nipple and those will come with the lock ring. What will be that determining factor is how close you are to your panel. You will need a lengthof gray PVC conduit, glue and primer, exterior box to mount it to the siding, waterproof cover, exterior water resistant GFI, 12-2 wire, 20 amp breaker, exterior screws to mount the stuff with and a dunkin coffee. --50.32.xxx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by gevans [SC]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 5:29 AM
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Roy,

Go to youtube.com and search for "installing an electrical outlet from the panel". Step by step video.

Don't forget you will be working with a live breaker box. Be careful. This job is easy peasy...unless you die. LOL

Seriously, take simple precautions for working around live electrical components and it's a very simple job.

--173.233.xxx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 5:30 AM
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If it's a common panel at a multi unit, I'd put a locking cover on the receptacle or they'll steal power. --50.32.xxx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 5:33 AM
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As gevans said, live panel can = dead. Rule of thumb, work with 1 hand in your pocket. --50.32.xxx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 5:38 AM
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NE,

I just got off the phone with my master electrician and he quoted me $100.00 (labor) and $50.00 for the parts. I consider that reasonable.

This is a single family home but I know what you mean about stealing power. I have seen that happen in Class D hoods. --68.63.xxx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 5:45 AM
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Yeah, 150 bucks for labor and material is not bad. If you're busy have him do it, if you want to do it do it. I have done them myself and similar things and I have also hired them out. --50.32.xxx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 5:47 AM
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Romex going out sided or bottom is not a good idea, it goes out the top into the wood to get physical protection, use a angled nipple into a 4inch square box that mounts on the wall - you twist the offset nipple to match the depth needed for everything to mount flat, the outlet goes into the metal cover plate by bending or breaking off the tabs that would rest on the wall surface in a finished location, the metal box provides the physical protection needed near or below grade, this metal pipe is used in many outdoor projects for the same reason. AWG 14 is not strong enough for 20 amps, only 15 amp projects like lighting loads. Outlets should be planned with 20 amp wiring to minimize the nuisance tripping.

--76.188.xxx.x




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 5:50 AM
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Vee, I believe this is the surface mounted exterior panel, he's not gonna have any wood to go through. --174.201.x.x




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 6:08 AM
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I would do it like NE[PA]'s method except I prefer using a steel nipple & box instead of PVC. If you shut off the panel's main breaker while add in this circuit & outlet, you will greatly reduce the areas with live electricity in the load center.

--96.237.xx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 6:55 AM
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I seriously can't imagine why anyone would even consider doing this kind of work themselves unless they were a pro at it. Craziness. --76.120.xx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 7:19 AM
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work safer not harder... good idea to call Electrician. Plus you can be doing other things while he is doing that! --173.127.xxx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by RichE [IL]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 7:32 AM
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20 minutes of time and $10 worth of materials to earn $150 -not bad. I know all the extra time traveling and overhead for electrician etc, but that's what it would cost me to do it. --23.227.xxx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 7:55 AM
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Four years of electrical in high school combined with almost 15 years of doing it in the field, easy Peezy. --174.201.xx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 8:19 AM
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NE, you crack me up sometimes! Easy peasy my tukus! You are practically an electrician, with that much training and experience. It’s so good to hear that some high schools still offer useful classes, instead of all the focus on arts. ( nothing wrong with some arts but, good-grief! Bring back the tech classes, and drivers ed! )

Roy, I was glad to see you posted again. $100 , and Roy lives another day? Win! --70.92.xxx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 8:27 AM
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Busy, the thing is in this situation, the "hard part", every landlord should know. Especially if you're a full-time landlord. Changing a breaker and changing a receptacle as a landlord is the same as any person who drives a vehicle down the road. You need to know how to fill it with gas, check the tire pressure, check the oil, add some washer fluid, and change the tire in an emergency. The hard part in this situation is the basic stuff. Mounting a box and hooking up a piece of conduit, the non typical work, is nothing at all.

I just couldn't imagine calling an electrician out every time you need a light switch changed. It takes 30 seconds. Unless you have another business or a really good day job throwing off enough cash to sustain hiring everything out, you're going to chew up cashflow quick.

Now I get the whole thing about looking for houses and spending your time doing more productive stuff but, you need to know the basics. --174.201.xx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 8:36 AM
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NE, you studied electrical work. Most landlords have not, nor should they. Maybe you were kidding about how a landlord with no electrical training should be running conduit, wiring, installing breakers, etc.

I don't think so. And doing those things is not even close to your examples of basic car maintenance.

Only a foolish landlord with no electrical training would even consider doing that kind of thing.

- Personal risk.

- Building/business risk.

- Waste of time.

And if there was a fire or other loss and there was an inspection and they found the cause and that the work wasn't done by a licensed contractor, good luck to you!

Also, for a landlord to personally do projects on a building is usually a bad idea for other reasons.

--76.120.xx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 9:03 AM
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I respect Roy's and NE's die-hard DIYer views. It works for them.

I'm moving closer to Brad20K's "take the tools out of the trunk" ideal. I'm over 95% "hire it out" now. Even painting is gone, and was my once-upon-a-time cathartic task. If I'm already at a place and it's something super simple, I'll do it. Otherwise, I hire it done. I ran my 2018 numbers, and based my average number of hours LLing, I netted (after expense profit) over $280/hour.

So whatever the job is: cleaning, painting, carpentry, HVAC, electric... I almost always hire it done now. If an electrician makes $80-$100/hour, I don't begrudge him that because he frees up my time to make almost 3.5 times that much. --173.20.xxx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 9:40 AM
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I provide in most of my rental homes, duplex and triplex units an exterior mounted outlet. It is attached to a 20 amp breaker. I use 12 gauge wire with a ground. The distance should be limited to 50 feet from the panel. I install a GFI duplex outlet with a water proof spring cover over the outlet. Most of the time I will install a lighted GFI so it can be easily reset if tripped with a visual OK light when working.

Sometimes I'll run an EMT 1/2" conduit to a surface mounted box. Or I will run the line in a flex conduit in the attic or lower crawl space and install a box in the exterior stucco wall.

If the tenant has a child that will try to electrocute themselves, they can turn of the breaker, that I labeled. --47.156.xx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 10:03 AM
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A landlord needs to know roughly what things cost and how long things should take to complete. Good way to get hosed on jobs, if you don't. Unless you have a maintenance man, what will a LL do otherwise? Get 3 bids to change a light switch? Impractical. --174.201.xx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 10:09 AM
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"A landlord needs to know roughly what things cost and how long things should take to complete. Good way to get hosed on jobs, if you don't."

No sane landlord would dispute that. --76.120.xx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 11:14 AM
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Absolutely right NE , about good way to get hosed on jobs like that . I have noticed my electrician’s bill has been going way, way up. And, I know it’s exactly as you said, I know didly about it, I got started in this biz late in life, and have many, many other things to learn. Things like carpentry because my little 50s prefab home have crazy framing, Home Depot won’t even replace my doors.

And you are right in saying a landlord should work on learning some basic skills, unless they have either gotten big enough that they can manage a great crew, or they have outside source of income for family life. I admit, I am correctly accused of being a ‘hobbyist’ landlord. I make a small profit every year, but we sure couldn’t live on it!

I’ve been looking up woodworking/ carpentry classes, seeing what local community colleges offer. Maybe some electrical classes could be in Roy’s future?

My daughter has been teaching her kids how to do electrical, plumbing, basic handyman skills. Her kids are 4 and 6 years old. Here’s hoping there are tech ed classes in their high school when they get there.

--70.92.xxx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by livethedream [AZ]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 12:28 PM
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I recently paid $400 to install a 50a 240v line, a 30a 120v, fix a bad circuit, install a light timer and reinstall two of my outside security lights that some rotten kids shot with bb guns. Took him about 3 hrs.

And I STILL have to go back and fix it. He forgot to put a junction box in the wall, now I have to fix it myself. I failed to notice with other things going on before he got away.

I would put a 30 amp breaker in and use #10 wire, it's a short run, and it will allow you to run a MIG welder and larger tools safely. The actual process isn't too hard. There's lots of videos on it.

And remember, always cut the Blue wire, or was it the red one? Wait! Cut the green wire! No, no, no, it's the blue one, cut the blue one, quick! BOOM! Oops, sorry it was the red one after all. :) --166.170.x.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2019 2:48 PM
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I would have hired my handyman to begin with and if needed he can bring a generator and I will go look for another house --72.231.xxx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by fred [CA]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 7:29 AM
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Certain jobs around a house require knowledge, experience and to be performed with safety.

Electrical work is one of them.

If you don't know how, don't guess and let a pro do it. --99.59.x.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 7:47 AM
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Agreed, Fred. It still surprises me that landlords would even consider trying to save a few $$$ and attempt something risky like that. --76.120.xx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 7:49 AM
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I agree with NE....but note that he/she says "If you know what you are doing".

In any circumstance, you should shut off all power to the main panel before attempting any such alteration.

--99.92.xxx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 7:50 AM
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Just read your response to NE...

This proves you do not know how to do this, if you need a step by step...so I'd hire an electrician. --99.92.xxx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 7:51 AM
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What's risky about it? Black wire to the breaker, snap it in place. Ground and white to the grounding bar. Black wire to the gold on the gfi, white to silver, ground to ground, turn the breaker on and get to work. --174.201.xx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 7:54 AM
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For me adding a circuit isn't a big deal. However doing almost anything with a computer or a cell phone upgrade requires me to seek out the services of one of my grandkids or The Computer Doc.

A man's got to know his limitations.

Harry Callahan --96.237.xx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 8:00 AM
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What's risky about it? Well, electricity can kill you. If you just screw it up you can cause a fire. I also don't know of any professional landlords who have the time or interest outside of doing the quickest, smallest repairs of any kind. It's a business. --76.120.xx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 8:01 AM
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That's right, it is a business. You're not going to have a farm and not bail hay and milk the cows at least sometimes. --174.201.xx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 8:03 AM
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Because landlording and farming are so similar. How about bowling alleys? --76.120.xx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 1:46 PM
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In education/ psychology, there is theory/train of thought about learners, puts learners ( people learning something) into four categories:

Unconsciuosly incompetent

Consciously incompetent

Consciously competent

In consciously competent.

In other words:

They don’t know they don’t know. These are the most dangerous. Especially with electrical.

They know they don’t know. These people are the best learners. They are ready to learn, they have schema for it.

They know they know. These are the best teachers. They can understand the struggle of learners. And can teach other ways to learn the material.

They don’t know they know. These are the absolute experts, but not at all good teachers. They are so good at it, they cannot believe someone can struggle.

Just some argument material. First, we must be aware. Then we can learn, or teach.

--172.56.xx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 5:00 PM
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a silly question . spend a few $ & have licensed electrician do it. --166.137.xxx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 5:53 PM
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PMH, but a great question at the same time, for a forum about landlording. How many readers who are too shy to post have benefitted from reading through all of the responses.

Who knows? We may have saved a life today! And, maybe a few people have decided that even if they aren’t comfortable doing this themselves, they will take the very valuable point that they should know something about this, so they aren’t taken for a ride. --70.92.xxx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Dan [NY]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 6:22 PM
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Adding a circuit is easy. I actually think plumbing can cause larger issues. I --107.242.xxx.x




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 6:54 PM
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Dan, you mean "problems." Are you not aware that electricity can kill you and it can burn a building down? Someone who is not an electrician and who attempts this kind of a project is a fool. --76.120.xx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by don [PA]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 9:48 PM
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Can you pull the meter so that the breaker box is de-energized?? If not, you are going to be working in a condition where if you touch the wrong thing, or your tool touches the wrong thing, you are gonna die. Touching the buss bar is not like getting juiced while working on an outlet or switch, it may well be fatal. At the very least, you need to understand the flow of electricity in the breaker box and never lose concentration on that while doing the work.

I have no problem wiring outlets and switches, but sweat bullets when I have to go "in the box" --73.141.xxx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by don [PA]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 9:51 PM
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And yes, I know you can throw the main breaker to de-energize the bus bar, but the incoming lugs will still be energized. --73.141.xxx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 10:02 PM
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Dan,anything is easy when you know how,where mph comes from the black wire carries more of a punch than a black wire in this country and besides everyone is always five hours behind the times...z.....Charlie,.,.,.,,.,.,. --32.214.xxx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 10:15 PM
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Roy,even brain surgery , even I knew. what I was doing ,I’d still let the gal or guy with the white Coat. Work at it first,I’ll still try the breaker box, But for prices like you got, not worth your while to bother with it..,. ...Charlie.................. --32.214.xxx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Cjo’H [CT]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2019 11:31 PM
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Busy,driver’s ed,is that something I should know about,my introduction to driving,followed my friend from Brooklyn to New Haven on a Sunday evening in the dark,never even sat in the driver’s seat before, had five or six weeks to study the Manuel before I took the test passed with flying colours of course that was sixty years ago,probably wouldn’t be a good idea today, no wonder I don’t have any hair! The friend,I followed was wondering why he wasn’t able to get his License inBrooklyn,Someone told him to leave a 20$ bill in the brochure he did , then he too passed,,,,..,.charlie.......... --32.214.xxx.xx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 4:36 AM
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So I guess hooking a plug and wire into a panel that just dangles freely in the air for temp power is out of the question with most LL's here?

Or back feeding the panel with a generator to power the whole house?

For sure running a new service through a weather head, disconnecting the power lines from the pole and laying them in the yard and then hooking them up to the new panel without permit and inspection is downright heresy? --50.32.xxx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 3:13 PM
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sure, some of us think we can do that. black on black, white on white. I just think about tenant safety & insurance liability. if I thought I did it right but did not. There is a reason why electricians are certified and I am not. stupid to try & save a few $ on such an issue. pay the $ to get it done. --70.119.xxx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Danno [IL]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 3:53 PM
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Besides the 12 gauge wiring and 20amp circuit breaker, it is always a good idea to also install and attach a green wire to the outlet receptacle and box to ensure that both the outlet and box are properly grounded. --67.176.xxx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 4:08 PM
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Certified for what? Here in good old Pennsylvania, I can get a $300/yr state license and $600/yr insurance and go out and practice electricity all I want and so can anybody else. Whether they're are any good is a different story, so don't think that certifications mean anything. Because sometimes they don't. --50.32.xxx.xxx




Adding a breaker / DIY ? (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2019 7:00 PM
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NE,Just like a Warranty they’re worth the paper they’re written on and not much. More............charlie..........that’s why I don’t worry too much about Permits or inspectors,unless they did their time............ --32.214.xxx.xx



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