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4 year College Degree (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 2:37 PM
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I would like to know how many regular posters here have completed at least 4 years of college, even if it was 30-40 years ago. Any Masters or Ph.D 's here by any chance?

My real question here is two-fold: did your college education help you in any way in becoming a better business person and/or LL ? And if one of your teenage children wanted to follow in your LLing footsteps,...would you recommend they get a college degree first? Why or why not?

--68.63.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by OKHMBLDR [OK]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 2:50 PM
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Graduated Central State University with a BBA in Marketing and Economics in 1972...yes, I'm old!

Yes, the degree did help me. First, it allowed me the opportunity to get a job that required a degree. Secondly, that job prepared me to be a good manager, plus gave me the income to purchase rental property. Both of my daughters have degrees, and their children are now in college, or starting next year.

The degree got my foot into businesses that otherwise I would never had the opportunity to work and learn.

Yes, I recommend a degree, but, there are several folks without degrees who have also done very well.

I just think the degree is a good door opener.

--99.104.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Smokowna [MD]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 2:51 PM
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ahhh, I misunderstood of the post. I thought you were selling a degree. I was going to ask "How much?" Always wanted one of those. --96.241.xx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 2:58 PM
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Smoke,

No I am not selling anything here. You can buy a diploma with your name on it online if you really want one,..LOL.

--68.63.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by melinda [MD]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 3:12 PM
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Graduated from Athens State University in 1970. Degree in elementary education. Husband has 2 master degrees. My daughter graduated from Towson University and her husband graduated from Frostburg State. The degrees enabled both my husband and me to get jobs and grow up. Well worth the time and money. --24.233.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Shaun [FL]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 3:17 PM
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BS, MS, EDS- never finished my dissertation.

Got my nose out of joint, Major Professor allowed her Life Partner's name to get put on one of my Chapters I wrote for a college textbook and I challenged it. Things got real unpleasant. She's no longer there, but I was done with Higher Education politics.

Yes I think it helps, especially with all the written correspondence/ documentation. --173.29.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Elena [PA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 3:21 PM
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Master's, but earned later in life, after raising kids. The degree is paying for a very nice living now aside from rentals, but Bachelor's taught me to think critically and to read thoughtfully.

I would recommend at the very least a Bachelor's in business administration. (mine were both in science). LL-ing may not be for them later in life, but without a college degree, I believe, many doors will be closed. Some companies won't even hire for an executive admin position without a 4 yr degree. --141.158.xx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Beth [WI]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 3:31 PM
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I don’t think the degree helped me other than it allowed me to earn somewhat more money. My area... no 5K Roy houses. Expensive market to get into.

Possibly my degree encouraged me to be better at learning/analyzing. But since I am wired that way, maybe it made no difference.

I encouraged my kids to go into the trades. (Didn’t happen). I think that would have been useful.

My impression is that it’s harder to get a “good job”’without a 4 year degree. I’ve known a few people that didn’t make it through 4 years of college who spent quite a bit of time searching for a “good job”.

In theory, a 4 yr degree should give you a better chance of getting a “good job”’with benefits. And, one should be able to switch fields more easily. Get a 5 yr electrician apprenticeship and one can only get hired as a n electrician. 30-40 years is a long time to work in the same field.

I really enjoyed my field (science). Enjoyed the people, enjoyed the work. Glad I got my degree. --47.12.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Lynn [MA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 3:46 PM
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Masters Degree in Civil Engineering. Still working as an engineer as well as a LL. Yes for kids to get degree as well. --168.88.xx.x




4 year College Degree (by Taz [CT]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 3:47 PM
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I got my certificate as a paralegal so I worked in a law office full-time and worked on my bachelor's degree in law & society part-time for 8 years. The bachelor's was definitely helpful for critical thinking and approaching matters as a professional. Can't beat hands-on law office experience though and knowing how to do things myself. --32.211.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Coplin [CA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 3:59 PM
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BS, MSc in Physics & MBA in marketing. Degrees got me high paying captive jobs, then high paying contracting software contracts so I could buy SFRs. They now CF and provide $ for grand children's education & supplemental funds for whole family.

So yes, I would recommend getting at least a BS technical college degree and preferably a technical MSc degree.

Seems like a BS/BA has become the de facto minimum for getting a job and an advance degrees for high skill level higher $ jobs.

Just my .02 cents. --47.157.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Elena [PA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 4:17 PM
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Taz, now that's a great idea - paralegal! You can't beat that sort of experience in landlording. Plus, you've probably made lots of useful contacts. --141.158.xx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 4:42 PM
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If I could re-live 4 years of my past life, I would choose the 4 years I spent at Auburn University -graduated 1979. It was not the book knowledge I gained but the experience just living life on my own at 18 and learning to deal with whatever problems came my way. I remember renting my first apartment (one room studio with a shared bath) that was a total dump when I first saw it but the rent was cheap ($30.00/month w/utilities included). I cleaned it up, painted it, and made a bachelor's pad out of it. Who would have ever thought that 30 years later I would be buying similar dumps and become the rent payee instead of the rent payer. Knowing what I know now, I wish I could go back and re-live those college years. --68.63.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Paulio [PA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 4:53 PM
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MBA in Finance. The courses of study like accounting, economics, organizational management, statistics, etc. all help me to be a better landlord. Of course, you don’t NEED a formal course of study in this stuff, but it does give me great confidence in these areas. And, as others have said, the degree helped me land better paying jobs before I became a full-time LL. --74.47.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 4:54 PM
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I got pregnant at 15 and dropped out of high school in the 9th grade. Had two kids by the time I was 18.

My parents bought me a set of encyclopedias and I read them cover to cover A to Z. I am truly "home schooled."

I went back later and got a GED.

Because I entered hi-tech back when all that was required was aptitude - no degrees yet - lack of formal education never held me back. I *did* lie to get my first such job, but after that, all was well. I worked along side people with Masters and such, earning as much or more than they did.

Ended up doing a lot of contract work somehow, turned out I had an aptitude for legalese, which fed right into this job LOL! --50.82.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Libi [NY]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 4:57 PM
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I have a degree from a different planet/country. It not related to LL in anyway. Landlording came second as an additional source of income.

I pushed my kids to have a degree too. You always need to have a plan “B”. --74.90.xx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 5:08 PM
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I too am college educated. In a vague way you could say college helped develop critical thinking. They used to say it didn't matter what you got a degree in, as long as you had one it got you the job. It was about paying your dues, like those before you. With the soaring cost of higher education it can be a tough call to direct a high school graduate towards college. Properly educated HS kids learn more computer than we ever did and are tech savvy. Statistically I believe it is still valid that the college educated earn more than those who are not. If someone were following in a LL's path they would benefit from the business related, accounting, general psychology, social media, marketing degree, but it's really more about the passage of time. Yet with guidance there has to be less expensive way to 'grow up'. --24.194.xx.xx




4 year College Degree (by David [MI]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 5:11 PM
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to echo what other say, having a BS means easier to get high paying job. The job not only gives you cash for buying houses, but makes it easier to get conventional mortgages for financing.

a MS or MBA is great but not if you have to pay for it out of your own pocket! --50.4.xxx.x




4 year College Degree (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 5:11 PM
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Way to go there WMH ! I love reading those rags to riches stories only you can tell! There is nothing wrong with home schooling as long as your learn something. What advice would you have for other teenage girls (and boys) that want to get naked at 15 ? --68.63.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 5:25 PM
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I would love to be able to address teens and tell them to READ and then LEARN TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC. Every opportunity I had in life was because I was able to SPEAK WELL IN PUBLIC. In front of people, on a stage even. Get up and speak.

Top level, not deep, but I had that ENCYCLOPEDIA education on a lot of small things. --50.82.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by JR [ME]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 5:28 PM
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BA in psychology and an MD degree. Followed by three years of family practice residency. Put in 80 - 100 hour weeks for 7 years. Set me up to be financially successful for the rest of my life, and yes, the discipline formed to see me though helps me make it through busy days today. Also taught me a very useful life skill. The ability to look someone right in the eye, explain my position, and tell them, “No” Priceless in any profession. --98.13.xx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 5:45 PM
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I have an Associates Degree that has absolutely nothing to do with land lording.

I don't think it's necessarily any degree that gives you the skills needed for this job. It's the life experience, ability to think critically, and common sense - among other skills - that can be gained through many different ways.

I don't think that a degree helps you get a "better job" anymore. Only if it a degree that is needed to work in a field - like doctor, lawyer, etc. But a more "general' degree - no.

Too many youth are pushed to go to college who have no need / business being there. They should instead learn a trade or technical skill where they can start to earn a living without all the college debt that does not proportionally increase their earning potential.( and wasted time trying to find themselves while goofing around and partying) It (a degree)can give you a much lower standard of living due to college debt.

A couple of my kids at least play with the idea of investing in Real estate one day, but I don't push them. Just show them some of the potential, and encourage them any time they ask questions. If you insist on something, kids tend to shy away from it. I've encouraged them to try to work in a field they truly enjoy / can succeed at. No matter if it requires a degree.

--68.10.xxx.x




4 year College Degree (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 5:53 PM
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law degree in UK. dissertation was on intnl law of the sea & manganese nodule mining rights. masters in finance in US. both helped me get to where I am today. my greatest respect is to those who go back for more learning later on. worked my way through. As a brick burner, laundry person at the state school, bar back, hotel clerk, shoe salesman and many other “positions “ --166.137.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 6:02 PM
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Went to Baylor and double-majored (Museum Studies & Archaeology). Originally wanted to be an Egyptologist, but it was too unstable a field for family life. Decided to position myself for a PhD in Paper Conservation (Preservation of Historic Documents). Graduated with about $16k in debt. Got married, paid it off, did WebCT online to get my Master's of Library Science from a state school (University of North Texas) while I worked full-time and while my husband was in school.

DH got his undergrad degree (English and History) from a state school in TN. He got his Master's in Museum Science from Texas Tech. (Which was how we met.) We got married, and he worked full time in the day and went to school at night to get his JD from a small school that later got absorbed by Texas A&M.

I finished up mine about six months before he finished up his. Because I used my employer's tuition reimbursement to cut costs (half my hours refunded upon receipt of a passing grade, can't leave employer within 2 years of having accepted funds), we graduated with two degrees and no debt. (Wooooo!)

Never did get into Paper Conservation. He got a job in his field; I got a job in mine; we started a family; we started ll'ing to position ourselves for a good retirement and the kids' college. If I ever do go back to school, it will be pure ego at that point... because I want stripes on my sleeves, goshdarnit. But I'll probably end up doing something practical, like getting a CNA to help out with our parents' health when it fails.

#1-- Did it help me be a better ll/business person? Not really. I became a librarian because I like dealing with information, but learning how to be a librarian didn't really make me a better data organizer, if that makes sense. (I'm more of a programs-and-ref-desk kind of librarian, not a cataloguer kind of librarian.) I used to be a secretary while I went to school, because the museums were building, not hiring. I was a much better secretary for my boss than I ever was for myself-- I used their systems when I was accountable to them, but I'm less disciplined when it's just us.

DH is far more methodical than I am. His degree has come infinitely in handy, both in terms of earning potential and information wrangling-- but it's such a stressful field, I wouldn't steer my kids into it unless they really wanted it for themselves.

#2-- A college degree is a piece of paper that opens doors. If you don't have a door that needs opening, the degree is of questionable use. A degree with a shelf life-- like computer science-- is also likely to be useless without boots-on-the-ground experience. A degree is ultimately a tool that turns a 12" stack of resumes into a 2" stack of resumes; experience does the rest.

If my kid wanted to follow in my ll'ing footsteps, I'd encourage them to get a BA/BS, just to have one in their pocket, and in the hopes that it would make them well-rounded/teach critical thinking skills/expose them to ideas/mature and transition into a self-sufficient adult. But if they didn't have a field that they were specifically interested in, I wouldn't go out of my way to send them further away than the local regional university. Or perhaps I might send them to learn a trade that would help them with ll'ing. (Plumbing, HVAC, electricity.) But I went to school with way too many kids who either didn't study, or didn't know what they wanted to do, to want to waste too much money on a kid who doesn't realize that being a student is their job, and takes it seriously.

The same proportion of people nowadays have 4-year degrees as had high school diplomas at the end of WW2. The same proportion of people nowadays have Master's degrees as had a 4-year degree at the end of WW2. --96.46.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 6:05 PM
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School of Hard Knocks.

College wasn't an option.

But survival was. --184.53.x.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 6:16 PM
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Deanna. you & your husband & I have a lot in common. need to figure out a way to connect. --166.137.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 6:23 PM
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BS and MS.

In earning a Bachelor's degree, you learn to learn. You figure out how to read text and get what's important out of it and dismiss some of the other things. You learn to study on your own and retain that knowledge.

My degrees allowed me to obtain jobs that paid well enough I could sock money away into rental properties. At one time while I was single I was living off of one bi-weekly paycheck per month and putting the others toward paying off real estate. I left the corporate world at 30 with enough rental income to support myself. But, contrary to a myth I heard when I was younger, two cannot live as cheaply as one, and four certainly can't. When ACA passed and we lost our individual health care plans, my degrees allowed me to again obtain employment, which with advancements since, again allows me to plow a lot of money back into my RE investments.

As far as whether it has helped me become a better LL or business person, I don't know that I could pinpoint specific things from formal education that have made me a better LL, but my career path as a result of having the degrees has made me a better LL and business person. My responsibilities at my day job make LL'ing seem like a walk in the park. As JR mentioned, there are intangibles that transfer over to LL'ing as well, not the least of which is the ability to deal with people in a firm but fair manner.

I would absolutely encourage my child to earn a degree if they want to become a RE investor. --12.235.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by fred [CA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 6:27 PM
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B.S in Business Administration/Marketing from CSUN (a local university).

After graduation, I knew that I would never have a job, so I created my own business. What a ride.

An old saying: Some people have jobs, but never work.

Others have no jobs but never stop working.

--99.59.x.xxx




4 year College Degree (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 6:32 PM
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I'm a graduate of Indiana University. I hold a BS in Accounting and MBA in Finance. I'm also a licensed Certified Public Accountant and hold Series 6 and 65 Securities licenses. I started my career with one of the large accounting firms and held jobs with a couple of Fortune 500 companies prior to starting my own CPA firm over 30 years ago. I was like WMH when it came to encyclopedias. I read them from A to Z several times when I was a youth. I was pretty young when I completed all of this educational stuff; I had both degrees and had passed the CPA exam by the time I was 26 years old.

My background in accounting/finance and business in general is of immense help when it comes to real estate. Moreover, I'm in the catbird's seat looking in on other people's real estate investments as many of my clients do this. My business activities as a CPA creates a network of people that help the real estate side as well. --209.122.xx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 6:55 PM
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I have a Ph.D. in Physiological Ecology. To this day, the logic that led to my walking down that path baffles me. I think my college years did little or nothing to prepare me for landlording. Oh, to have taken just ONE bookkeeping class!

Well, actually, the seven months I spent living at a field station in a third-world country taught me to be adaptable, resilient, and manage my time and resources well. But I already had developed most of those attributes by then.

I HAVE two kiddos in college right now. If they were in certain majors, I'd counsel them to drop out and learn a trade. I know so many people with college degrees that are working in areas completely unrelated to their college degree. Take courses online, where it's affordable, and work the day job gaining skills that will never get shipped overseas. The skills gap is only going to get wider. --204.210.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 7:00 PM
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Only 2 years here, but the time was instrumental in moving in this direction. --50.107.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Dodge [PA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 7:02 PM
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BS in civil engineering. Took a few MBA classes then realized it was more just jumping through more hoops and I should devote time and energy to RE.

Still have the w2 job as it's good for health insurance and getting mortgages, but I take about as much unpaid leave as my paid vacation.

The degree helped develop critical thinking and documentation skills. Happy I got mine when it was still somewhat reasonably priced.

Not sure I'd recommend a degree to a self starter type person today. --187.216.xx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 7:18 PM
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I started out going for a Construction Management degree, the big recession in the early 80's caused me to switch into Computer Science, finished with a BS. Then got a good job and the company paid for the MBA.

I think you pick up many things you use the rest of your life (some you don't even realize). Accounting for setting up bookeeping, finance/statistics to evaluate deals and understanding the relationship of time and money, public speaking helped get over the jitters in front of people, computer courses fine tuned the ability to troubleshoot problems.

The real value was a good paying job that helped me accumulate enough wealth to buy into some properties so now I don't have to sell my time to line someone else's pockets.

I think many college degrees are still worth it today, but it has to be in a field that will land a good paying job. Trades jobs aren't a bad alternative for the first few years but you tend to get pay capped after a few years and it really takes a toll on the body over the decades. --50.26.xx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 7:33 PM
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Pmh, we'll have to bump into each other someday. Maybe we'll have to coordinate a get-together dinner in DFW sometime for the Texas contingent. :) --166.137.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 7:44 PM
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All of my degrees don't count for anything.

But all the years I spent in universities DOES add up to ability to understand and analyze complex problems, including what actions are really solutions to problems and what is nonsense. Its not the degrees that count, it is the education that should have gone with it, and not the read-and-memorize part of the education, but the part of the education the hones your thinking skills.

--47.139.xx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 8:19 PM
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Masters of Education - yes it helps. Lease signings, communication with tenants is a lot like parenting and teaching at times. --24.61.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Otis [IL]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 8:51 PM
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Graduated high school and moved out on my own a month later. Spent 4 years at the local community college (had to work full time to support myself and pay for school).

Degree didn’t help one ounce in the rental property business. Got hired on at a very large insurance company at the age of 22 before they started requiring degrees. Worked my butt off there for the last 15 years and have made a good living for myself.

If any of my kids wanted to follow my footsteps I would let them but also push them towards getting a degree or trade school as a back up. --45.18.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 8:55 PM
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I'm impressed with every one's education. Wow! I went in so many different directions and attended three universities. Econ and Business degrees. I also have some trade schooling/certifications. I also had other business outside of real estate and business that required licencing in that trade (other than construction).

The people I know that stuck to one trade and got highly skilled/educated, found good paying employment. As an employee you never get "rich", you are on salary.

Being self employed most of my life, the sky is the limit. If I need to know something, they I buy books, consult experts and do things by trial and error. This has made me successful in many business, not only real estate. --47.156.xx.xx




4 year College Degree (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2019 11:18 PM
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Degree in Music.

But...college got me out of the house, learned to take care of muself, learned I liked music as a hobby not a profession. Learned to set my own goals and discipline to practice my ....off all by myself inna practice room for hours each day. Delayed gratification.

Learned about people and a broader world.

Learned I could pull all nighters. Came in handy when working a full full time job with 3 little ones and could paint until dawn then go to work again

I hesitated about sending kids to college but learned each is different. I think we have to work a job and finally realize on our own the job is not going to take care of you.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Mickie [OH]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 3:52 AM
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I left high school in my Junior year to get married. 2 yrs later I was divorced and stumbled into computers. I've done everything from key punch to systems engineering. Like WMH I had the drive to learn and I made just as much money as others on my team. I don't think anyone I've worked with has ever realized I didn't have a degree. I've managed a small team of 10 and although I liked my people I found I didn't like playing the politics. I stepped down into a level 2 support position to allow me to have more time for my Monopoly game. I don't think I missed anything by not going to college. If I went now it would be for fun...maybe a degree in history or business. --174.232.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 4:53 AM
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I was hoping Jeffrey Taylor would answer this post. I have always wanted to know how he started out. --68.63.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by nhsailmaker [NH]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 5:00 AM
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My Father was a professor - He always said the only thing a diploma tells us is that you are TEACHABLE.

I got a Double Major in Undergrad and then went to Cornell but when Jimmy Carter said we aren't going to 1980 Olympics in Russia because they raided Afghanistan - I sold my boat , quit sailmaking and grad school and moved to Boston to sleep on Friends couches until I found a real job

My career in Commercial Real Estate Boston, Hartford, NYC & SF was a "who you Know" vs a diploma........ and the career in Yacht Racing was a gift from God

I use to think the world was small because my careers introduced me to many successful people but my father also said that its not a small world - it is that we all travel in very small circles. It is the circles that make us what we are --73.182.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Steve [TN]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 5:01 AM
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I have a 4-year business degree. It didn't help me in any way with landlording. It did, however, help me stay employed in my career field - IT. It's pretty much required anymore to have some degree of some sort. --68.156.xx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Rich [PA]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 5:04 AM
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BS in accounting from the Univ of Iowa and a CPA. Learned to have fun and grow up while at college. Accounting degree allowed plenty of opportunities to find decent paying jobs. Degree also helped with the accounting, finance and contract parts of landlording.

The other half of my landlord education was provided by my mother. When graduating from college (1980) and a few years later after completing a Peace Corps assignment(1986 - 88), I moved back home for a few months until finding work and saving a few dollars. Upon arrival, my mother charged me rent ($250 per month to start). The rent was raised $50 every other month! The rent was up to $400 per month when I mentioned to my mother that her rent was more then a comparable apartment. Her answer: "I guess you are understanding my point." Her lessons were 1) you are no longer an adolescent and 2)as an adult, you need to carry your own weight, which includes paying on time and in full for services provided. (BTW - My rent payments were never refunded to me. We - my now 90 year old mother and I - still jokingly banter about when I might get that money back.)

Needless to say, I have no issue with collecting rents on time and raising rents on the annual renewal. I do hold up my end of the bargain and provide a very nice place to live and am timely when repairs and maintenance are required.

--100.6.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by RichE [IL]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 5:58 AM
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MBA University of Chicago

PhD UIC

EdD NIU

Enjoyed my time in the academy both as a student and a professor. As a conservative in a liberal bastion who enjoys tweaking sloppy thinking I had a good time there. --67.186.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 6:08 AM
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5-year (*wink) BS in Education (English) & minor in History (class of 1999) followed by a 2-year Associates Degree in Info Tech finished in 2004.

I work in Info Tech today, so my Associates degree helped me quite a bit more than my "big" degree. I only taught for 5 years in public HS.

As others have said, probably one of the most useful parts of higher education was learning to plan my day, pay my bills, and balance the load of life on my own without anyone supervising me. Had plenty of friends who were smart enough but never graduated because they couldn't get the discipline part worked out.

So yes, I think it helps. Could I have gone after degrees that helped more? Probably. Degrees that helped less? Definitely.

I think one of the most important jobs a parent has--other than loving their kids and providing for their physical needs--is getting in tune with where their talents and interests are, offering them guidance on what their options are, and then letting them "fly and be free" to succeed or fail. Cheer for them when they succeed...cry with them when they fail. Build them up to try again.

I think one of the best things I ever learned was persistence. Some of that I got in college, some from the military, some from being an REI, and some from being married to only one woman for almost 20 years. I may not be the smartest guy in the room, but once I set my heart on something I go for it until I get it and keep working to improve it.

Rivers--totally unintelligent things--cut 1,000 foot deep gorges out of solid rock with a couple hundred thousand years of persistence. Real Estate Investors call it "The Grind". It's why some succeed in spite of the odds being against them, and it's why some fail in spite of the odds being for them. Who gives up vs. who soldiers on?

"Victory belongs to those who believe in it the most and the longest." -- line spoken by the character of Lt. Col Doolittle, "Pearl Habor" --173.20.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by David [MI]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 6:27 AM
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the problem these days is not so much the time or energy or effort needed to get the degree. But it's price tag. So the question is really, can you (your parents) afford it, either at the time or in the long term with a student loan? --199.247.xx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Jan [MO]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 6:42 AM
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I have a BA and MA that have nothing to do with being a landlord. I also have a paralegal certificate that has everything to do with being a landlord.

I've been employed full time as a senior paralegal for about 15 years and would recommend everyone take paralegal classes. They help you in life, in general. A little knowledge of the law is very, very handy.

I don't have any kids but would definitely recommend they get a college education if I did. --144.191.xxx.x




4 year College Degree (by Tim [IN]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 7:56 AM
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two year associate degree in Agriculture Economics from Purdue University. Out of agriculture now, full time real estate. Like previous comments, learned more out of the classroom than IN the classroom. Luckily, I graduated with zero debt. Very grateful for it...

I'm encouraging my kids already to think technical school and not a BS or Masters or any other degree from a 4 yr college. --66.170.xx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Doogie [KS]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 8:05 AM
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I have a Bachelors degree and a Masters degree. Bachelors is in Computer Information Systems with a minor in Accounting. Started out as Accounting major, but the new requirement to sit for the CPA exam turned me off. Already had enough credits for the minor, so it was a gimmie. I was planning on programming computers forever. I started working for a company that had tuition reimbursement, so went back and got an MBA with concentration in Finance. It was free, so why not?

All in all, the Accounting and Finance classes have helped a ton in LL'ing. Being able to evaluate properties, cash flow analysis, etc. Not sure you need formal degrees for that, but you get much more than a formal degree when attending college (as others have stated).

I do recommend my kids go to college. They may not stay in that career forever (I sure haven't), but it does open more doors IMO. The experience you have in college cannot be learned elsewhere either. The best lesson I ever learned in college was not in the classroom. HUGE fight with roommates. Taught me a lot about appreciating other's point of view and respecting their values. --72.209.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Dave [MO]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 8:45 AM
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No formal education here I got my GED and school of hard knocks.

Two things an investor needs to know, you can do it with a high school diploma and don't go broke :)

--108.243.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Jose [CA]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 2:00 PM
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No college education here. Come to this country in 92 with big dreams. Just got lucky to have a good paying job as a longshoreman combined with hard working etic i have done very well for me and my family. I do incourage kids to get a college degree i think it helps in whatever they choose to do. I have my 2 daughters in college and im really happy with their decision to go. --172.58.xx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 2:09 PM
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It is interesting to see everyone’s background. some tempered with school of real life at an early age. common denominator is the will to get ahead one way or another. --70.119.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2019 3:59 PM
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BS Engineering, MBA Finance. Engineering helped me to think through things logically. Finance has been more helpful in designing the business for profitability.

I don't think you need a degree to be a good LL though...common sense and being "good with people" is more important IMO. --99.92.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Peter [NH]) Posted on: Feb 14, 2019 5:13 AM
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Bachelor of Music and MBA from Boston University.

Neither helped at all with LL business. To me, from a financial point of view, terrible waste of time, energy and money for me. (I did not use the degrees)

I learned that schools are businesses - period. I helped pay for some professors salaries so that was a good thing - NOT! NO!

I have been self-employed since I was 19. That said, it was all just part of MY journey. Everyones is different and that is OK.

My son is in college now for engineering and that is great. If he had wanted to take over my LL business I would not have recommended college. I would have taken some of that money to get him started in LL business (gone to LL seminars, down payments etc.) Right now I want him to explore and find his own path though. It is his journey and I will be here to give feedback and help :) --75.67.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Rick [IN]) Posted on: Feb 14, 2019 5:37 AM
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8 years, 10 months in the Navy. Graduated from four Navy technical schools-- EMT, and eyeballs. They paid me to go to school :) The time spent dealing with superior officers, lower ranked enlisted and Naval paperwork harden me to deal with tenants, courts, government administrators and elected officials.

This eyeball knowledge gave me the leg up to obtain a decent job, to study about and save money, and to then go into landlording. --73.102.xx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Rick [IN]) Posted on: Feb 14, 2019 5:39 AM
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Rich E(IL) Your take on Reaganomics? Having a conversation on another website with a German "economist." --73.102.xx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Feb 14, 2019 10:30 AM
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I didn't attend the University. My wife did, our daughter did not. As for making a recommendation that a child should attend the University, It was my wish that daughter would attend, but, I couldn't imagine that insisting she attend against her will would be good, BTW, she is not anti -higher education, she just didn't want to put her life on hold for 4 years. --72.172.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Feb 14, 2019 11:30 AM
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Bachelor's degree, Elementary Education, 1979. Taught for 3 years, and quit when I realized that I would never be good at, or enjoy, teaching.

I think that while in college I learned how to use resources to research, that my psych classes helped with both tenants (and my kids)- and that my eyes were opened to the fact that, while I was lousy at maths like Geometry and Algebra, I was really good at Statistics and Accounting. Ask me to figure out the area of an irregular shape and I look at you and stare. Ask me to figure out the tax ramifications of a particular business decision, and I jump right in.

So, yes, it helped to an extent.

But my best teacher was my mom, a legal secretary (if she'd been born at a different time to different parents, she'd have been a stellar attorney). She taught me to be detailed, to document everything, and to care about the whys and wherefores. I called her frequently during my early years as a landlord - if she didn't know the answer, she would hit up everyone in the firm until she had the correct answer. Miss her! --71.175.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Feb 14, 2019 12:42 PM
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Got a BS in Bus Admin (marketing with minor in psychology - consumer behavior) then later earned an MBA in management. Some of my classes were beneficial - finance, economics, accounting, management, quantitative methods, etc. However, I think my MBA was more useful to my entrepreneurial endeavors.

I also earned 14 IT certifications in Cisco, Novell (yes I'm dating myself), Windows, Proj Mgmt, etc.

Of all of it, the 14 certs were more useful than all of college and cost 10%. --108.69.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Jeff [OH]) Posted on: Feb 14, 2019 2:25 PM
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BS Mechanical Engineering

Masters in Business Administration

I strongly recommend to all young people to pursue a degree as in my opinion it gives you choices. I went full time in landlording at 41, but those degrees helped me earn enough money to allow for financial freedom. --142.54.xx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by MMIT [VA]) Posted on: Feb 14, 2019 5:21 PM
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I have a BS in Engineering. Wife has an associate degree in engineering and a BS in nursing.

Yes, the degrees have definitely helped us with the LL business. The degrees got us good paying jobs that were used to finance our lifestyle (and kids) and then the start of the LL business. The degrees also taught us the analytical skills needed to make good LL decisions (might have made worse LL decisions without the engineering background).

We did not start LL until the kids were off the payroll, out of the house, and on their own.

Yes, our kids and their spouses all have BS and masters degrees (2 have doctorates). The degrees will give the kids additional job choices they would not have if they did not have the college degrees.

One son and DIL started buying RE 2 years ago and now have 5 properties. They are both engineers and analyze each deal like an engineer. Their goal is to have enough RE income to replace their jobs in the future.

Once the other 2 kids and spouses get settled, they will also become LL.

Great post! --70.188.xx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Feb 14, 2019 5:25 PM
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BA History. Minor in math. Teaching certification separate and later. Then MS in Math. Taught 9-12 a few years,work at the university now. It helps me keep up with what my preferred tenants are seeking. --72.2.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Sue [MI]) Posted on: Feb 15, 2019 8:40 AM
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Nada - just HS for me. Got married at 18, he doesn't have a college degree either BUT we made sure education was a top priority for our kids. One graduated with an engineering degree from University of Michigan and the younger is finished with his Major and Minor and heading into student teaching this next year. We were successful because we worked hard and spent our money wisely. We aren't rich but we are happy and prosperous and self-educated ourselves enough to be so.

--97.84.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Sue [MI]) Posted on: Feb 15, 2019 8:40 AM
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Nada - just HS for me. Got married at 18, he doesn't have a college degree either BUT we made sure education was a top priority for our kids. One graduated with an engineering degree from University of Michigan and the younger is finished with his Major and Minor and heading into student teaching this next year. We were successful because we worked hard and spent our money wisely. We aren't rich but we are happy and prosperous and self-educated ourselves enough to be so.

--97.84.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Feb 15, 2019 6:53 PM
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Roy, when you first posed this question ,Ithought it in a whymsical way. But when you and I can buy shares of G E at around $10 a share, I think you have the answer,Sad when you need a college degree in order to drive a truck, very sad, Deanna and the girl from London and Moises,wished you lived around here ,would make Irish girls out of you in no time,flat .My schooling was 7th grade in a two roomed schoolhouse in the wilds of Co.Derry .and then the College of Hard Knocks in the Lowlands of Perthshire in Scotland with about 3999 other students from all over Europe.Each speaking their own Lingo.You learn fast... Very fast!.............Charlie......................... --32.214.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Feb 15, 2019 7:08 PM
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Should have built a college instead of what we did We could have lowered the Tuition ,but we probably wouldn’t have ....... Charlie .................... --32.214.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Feb 15, 2019 7:25 PM
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Undergrad degree Political science

Masters - MBA concentration in Finance

Both from Temple Uni - Philadelphia PA --108.51.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Dan [NY]) Posted on: Feb 15, 2019 7:25 PM
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BS in accounting 1996

MS in Education 2000

Any education will help you become better well rounded with life experiences. A financial background does help a lot.

--107.242.xxx.x




4 year College Degree (by Dan [NY]) Posted on: Feb 15, 2019 7:25 PM
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BS in accounting 1996

MS in Education 2000

Any education will help you become better well rounded with life experiences. A financial background does help a lot.

--107.242.xxx.x




4 year College Degree (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Feb 15, 2019 7:26 PM
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Now I read the entire question....MBA was very valuable in understanding leverage & importance of systems. --108.51.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Feb 15, 2019 7:30 PM
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Cjo'h, my Irish GGG Grandfather came over with his parents in 1867. :) All my genealogy books are packed away, so I couldn't tell you more specifically where from... But I can tell you had the best schooling! :) --96.46.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Feb 15, 2019 9:21 PM
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One more thought, just because someone goes to college and gets a degree, that doesn't teach them about "how to run a business". I have many friends that are "professional procrastinators". What any of us landlord have to go through in a single week with emergencies and repairs, a brilliant college graduate (top of his class), can't change a light bulb, replace a toilet seat, change the battery in a smoke detector or ground an outlet that shocks the family each time someone touches the refrigerator and any grounded metal nearby. Months goes by and nothing gets done! --47.156.xx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Feb 16, 2019 2:00 AM
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Deanna,,if you ever get to New Haven,look me up,I’ll tell how to get in. And then you can peruse all the old manuscripts gathering dust at Yale,You’ll definitely have a ball..................Charlie ......and we’ll pinpoint your location in the Emerald Country,took a trip away back ,we’re in the same seats on the return flight one lad his people were from Cork went to the area he knew off, met all kinds of relatives,as if his people had never left,really amazing.......................... --32.214.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Feb 16, 2019 2:27 AM
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Peter, one of my daughters graduated from BU Did Real Estate on Comm Ave,still has her hand in it to a degree,They all do. Dr Mick ,my nephew is in South Africa , one of his sons is graduating as a Doctor,but has to do five years internship in the local hospital before he can say “I am “...............................charlie............... --32.214.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Feb 16, 2019 6:58 AM
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Cjo'h, my friend's daughter married an Irishman from Limerick. I could listen to his voice all day. :) The three of them are going over this fall to visit his family, see the Book of Kells, and kiss the Blarney Stone, etc. I said, "Wow, you even have a native guide!"

If any of us ever fortunate enough to go, you'll have to be our native guide! :) In the meantime, if any of us ever end up in New Haven, you can be our almost-native-guide to New Haven/Yale! :) --96.46.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Feb 16, 2019 1:12 PM
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And no remuneration..What a bunch of cheap Bast.... Worse than Yale,well almost????? --32.214.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Feb 16, 2019 1:53 PM
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I don't know about you, but his favorite currency is Guinness. :) --96.46.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Feb 16, 2019 7:32 PM
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A little late to the party, but here it is:

After graduating HS I couldn't wait to be done with school and swore I'd never go back. I moved out on my own as soon as I graduated. I started reading all of the financial and business books, magazines, and self-help guides I could get my hands on while working full-time. Did that constantly for about 10 years (until my wife threatened to leave me).

I thought I was going to go into the finance field but it didn't happen. But instead I turned my first home into a rental when we upgraded and never looked back.

I decided to go to college when I was in my thirties...just to prove to myself I could do it. Received a BS in Business Mgmt and another in Marketing. I figured they would also help me in the LL business.

I don't believe that a college education is of utmost importance. It can be a good tool, but I would prefer a trade school or technical school. And I think taking jobs for the what you can learn from it is more important than just earning money.

Just so that young people can have a different perspective on life I would recommend that they read Rich Dad, Poor Dad. I would also recommend they listen to Clark Howard and Dave Ramsey for common sense on money. Financial education is/has been the key for me.

--24.20.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Feb 16, 2019 10:45 PM
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Deanna,If you can wiggle into your friends good graces and make the trip with them ,You’ll have the time of your life.before the cost is too prohitive.away back ,we took two junior GaelicFootball teams over, and had our bus and traipsed all over the Island,two of our girls went with us ,Climbed the steps up to the Blarney Stone But didn’t kiss it,Didn’t see eye to eye with the the guy they had up there.Dont like Guinness.Was best man at a wedding in Preston, liked their Buddington.the youngest girl knows more about Ireland than I.Has been Maid of Honour a couple of times there,also wiggled her way into the Irish Delegation to the EU in Brussels ,Still know a little though,Lived not too far from the Giants Causeway and Bushmills.............. Charlie..............see if you can make it ,with your ties, yould have the time of your life.......... --32.214.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2019 4:22 PM
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Roy, on behalf of mph and myself I would like to thank you for posing this question and also to you others who kept the American economy on an even keel,while we found our footing.Peter for keeping BU alive and welll so Margaret could become head of the Scyc Department in Connecticut.merci beau coup again and again,no

Question,hard to beat education,even at a high price!.....Charlie......a country boy. Go rath. Maith agut! Arise............... --32.214.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2019 8:41 PM
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As I think back, my education prepared me to be a corporate employee. The problem was that my personality was not suited for that and that was the main reason I started my CPA firm. Most of the accounting and finance I learned in school was designed to support having a job in corporate America, not supporting small business and individual clients that I wound up with when I started my firm. This required me to learn new things. One of the things they don't teach you in college is how to run your own business. Their job is to supply corporate America with compliant employees. That was never my thing.

There's a huge difference between the early 80's when I completed grad school and now. I graduated into full employment where jobs were plentiful and even in graduate school, my tuition at Indiana was around $ 800 a semester. The same MBA degree today will set you back about $ 100,000 and the job market is questionable. Common sense dictates a very close evaluation of the worth of college.

I'm a big believer in education, but at a reasonable cost. I also don't go for this name brand business where you're supposed to shoehorn your kid into the "best school" for several thousand dollars a year. I've come to believe that college is a scam anymore and one has to be careful otherwise you throw you and your kid into financial peril.

My youngest kid won an athletic scholarship so his college is essentially paid for. My oldest kids went the community school route for two years and then to a four year school. They weren't sure what they wanted to do and my thing is that if you want to "explore", we're going to do it at the community college rate versus spending $ 30,000 to do it at a state school. There's no way I would spring for an Ivy league type school either. I don't care for so called "elite" types---I worked with many of these types of folks when I was in corporate and I found most of them to be detestable. Moreover, a degree from one of these institutions doesn't generate the same mileage for everyone anyway.

Like someone said, the trades are an excellent place to be. It may not be glamorous, but "glamour" doesn't pay the bills. --209.122.xx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2019 1:07 PM
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They say that back in Northern Ireland,at one time or another all the farmers are outstanding in their field............................. ,,,,,, 1 2 3. 4 --32.214.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2019 7:06 PM
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MBA from Chapman

Undergrad was from SIU

Also 4 years in the third grade --72.23.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2019 11:22 PM
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Ray,3. Or 4. Years in the same grade,You get to meet people. You’ll cherish. Forever And we know friends are priceless,,More important than any Degree no matter from whence it came?.............. jo’h. C. Lost the c, oh! There it is ,,,,,, ................. can’t go far without at least a c,don’t you think...... ............... --32.214.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2019 4:57 AM
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By the 6th grade I was the popular kid in class.......cause I was the only one with a drivers license. --72.23.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Sue [MI]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2019 5:01 AM
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GKarl I totally agree with the cost of education and the need to be frugal. My son went to UofM with a great tuition/grant/scholarship package and my younger chose to go to a closer and cheaper state school and live at home most of his time and has very little student loan debt. --97.84.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2019 6:05 AM
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Granddaughter took Community College classes in high school, "earned" a mentor who worked with her throughout CC to ensure she took the right classes to transfer to a state university (which she did) and now has been taking classes for her Masters. She will graduate in May with her Bachelors in Education then finish out her Masters next year. Between a few small scholarships, a few small student loans, a part time job at a Montessori School, and a little help from Gramma and Grampa, she will graduate with about $20k in loans after 5 or so years.

Her parents helped her by allowing her to live at home the entire time without paying rent (although she pays for her stuff - phone, car insurance, etc.)

She happens to live in an area where teachers are actually very well-paid, so her degree is worth something for sure. --50.82.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2019 5:19 PM
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Did take High School classes at one of the LocalHighschools here in New Haven stopped when the teacher questioned the fact that the Alegbra was the same we took in 3rd back in Bancran PES Never did find out what was Alegbra good for.Do any of you know I’d appreciate your light on the subject.Have built houses from the foundation up .Never called on AlegbraYetThe Steel Square yes. Fred in California you know?.................? ?.......c j .O’H.........Pi r2 O K. .............. --32.214.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2019 6:16 PM
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was appointed head cook when in BlairAthol Have no notion why never took lessons ,may have to talk to Martha Stewart about that?...........Charlie .................... --32.214.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2019 8:18 PM
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Oh!Deanna,did a lengthy apprenticeship in the trades,which probably helped a lot.also have a friend from Limerick who owns the Playwright if you make it to Connecticut ,you’ll meet him...I worked with a carpenter from Co Clare,near Shannon we worked together for over four years Never knew a word he said ,it was probably the same for him. He was the best man in our Wedding in Canada over sixty years ago,, everyone asked. “ what did he say”,I didn’t know either? ........ Charlie.......... --32.214.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 20, 2019 4:54 AM
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Why has this post generated so many responses? --68.63.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Feb 20, 2019 7:40 AM
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Charlie's rants! --24.20.xxx.xxx




4 year College Degree (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Feb 20, 2019 8:49 PM
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JB,just can’t help it, come from a long line of simple minded people......................Charlie........... --32.214.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Feb 20, 2019 9:23 PM
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Too bad you guys didn’t live closerIf you did we could meet on This Sunday from 1 to 4 for one of their Corned Beef dinners Never heard of corned Beef in Ireland strange? I suppose I could force myself to eat it just one day a year .... ........Charlie. ................small sacrifice to make for the Fatherland......................... --32.214.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Feb 20, 2019 10:14 PM
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Deanna, spent over 9 months in Yale met the Masters of several of the colleges enjoyed their company don’t know if any of us learned anything I suppose we did,in a way!All people are that just people........... Charlie.................. --32.214.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Feb 20, 2019 10:40 PM
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WMH,ever do any plays,did the backdrops for some of Brian Friels and John B.Keanes work........... Charlie,,,....and a few others some women Playwrights................. .......... --32.214.xxx.xx




4 year College Degree (by mike [CA]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2019 6:57 PM
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i have a degree in economics and accounting. it DEFINITELY helped, i use the analytical basics daily. i was able to squeeze the 4 years into 6 because UC santa barbara has a surf break ON CAMPUS. no sense hurrying to class when the surf's up... --76.176.xxx.xxx



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