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Lighting [Round2] (by Frank [NJ]) Jan 15, 2019 12:30 PM
       Lighting [Round2] (by Deanna [TX]) Jan 15, 2019 12:49 PM
       Lighting [Round2] (by Frank [NJ]) Jan 15, 2019 12:54 PM
       Lighting [Round2] (by RR78 [VA]) Jan 15, 2019 2:14 PM
       Lighting [Round2] (by 6x6 [TN]) Jan 15, 2019 5:00 PM
       Lighting [Round2] (by Hoosier [IN]) Jan 15, 2019 5:16 PM
       Lighting [Round2] (by AllyM [NJ]) Jan 15, 2019 6:17 PM
       Lighting [Round2] (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Jan 15, 2019 6:17 PM
       Lighting [Round2] (by Vee [OH]) Jan 15, 2019 6:23 PM
       Lighting [Round2] (by MikeA [TX]) Jan 15, 2019 8:42 PM
       Lighting [Round2] (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jan 15, 2019 9:17 PM
       Lighting [Round2] (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jan 16, 2019 5:35 AM

Lighting [Round2] (by Frank [NJ]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2019 12:30 PM

My inquiry last week about lighting got me to this new question.

A friend warned me that putting LED's in a closed fixture is dangerous.

Google search tells me its not quite that cut & dry.

Do ya'll know about or have experience with this?

As an aside: we went to a fancy-pants lighting store just for fun & find that their stuff is also [like the big box stores] is almost all Made in a Foreign Land across the Pacific.

Lighting [Round2] (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2019 12:49 PM

I haven't had much luck with LED bulbs being put into ordinary light fixtures. They burn out really, really fast. A guy from the lighting department told me the ballast in my fixture was wrong to use an LED bulb, and not to do that-- so generally, I avoid them. When I do get an LED light, I get a fixture with a built-in bulb, just to be safe.

On a related note, after enough years of closed fixtures, I've tried to shift over to exposed-bulb lighting as much as possible. Either people aren't interested in the hassle of disassembling it, and they leave the bulb burned out--- or they do disassemble it, and neglect to put it back together, and usually lose an important piece. :)

I haven't decided how I feel about the built-in bulbs yet. It seems wasteful to throw out the entire fixture once the bulb is out, but they supposedly last for decades? The first one I tried, the tenant brought in roaches-- and one of them made its way into the sealed light fixture. His little body is still a blurry little shadow on the bottom of the diffuser bowl! :P Every time the place turns over, I wonder if anyone's sharp-eyed enough to notice it. :)

Lighting [Round2] (by Frank [NJ]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2019 12:54 PM

I do not expect to have any fixtures [standard old-school stuff] with ballasts...just standard so


Lighting [Round2] (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2019 2:14 PM

I once found a fixture my wife wanted for our own home. Problem was it came with the built in LED.

Called the company to see if they happen to have the same style with a replaceable bulb.

No they did not and said they dont even sell the separate part needed to replace just the LED bulbs.

But not to worry they will last a very long time. And they have a 5 year warranty. You just pay shipping for the new one and to send the old one back.

I asked her what would I do after 5 years. She said most people would replace their light fixtures for a new design by that time anyway. So not a real concern.

We found something else.

To many Chinese companies making cheaper and cheaper quality Leds's. I dont expect them to last.

I have to deal with fixtures if they go bad. Let just the tenants deal with bulbs instead.

Lighting [Round2] (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2019 5:00 PM

Deanna I don't know of any ordinary light fixtures that have ballast. Just sockets.

Lighting [Round2] (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2019 5:16 PM

We are slowly switching over to LED fixtures (NOT LED bulbs). But I've not had any issues with using an LED bulb in a standard fixture. We changed every bulb in our house from incandescent to LED about a year ago. The hardest part is picking the right "temperature" (i.e. color) for each woodshop likes very "white" light and the living room likes "beige" light.

Lighting [Round2] (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2019 6:17 PM

Local fire inspectors want fluorescent light only in closets. IF LEDs are cool then maybe they would allow them.

Lighting [Round2] (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2019 6:17 PM

Use the LED tubes that don't use ballasts. They last forever. Besides, it's a waste to keep the ballast since they go out and the bulb would not work. Best to strip all away. You can rewire a fixture to remove the ballast and run the new LED.

Lighting [Round2] (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2019 6:23 PM

I think you so far are discussing replacement tubes like f40 or f32, the conversion is to put the 110vac wires to the sockets and take away the ballasts. There is a chance you are talking about the common medium base bulbs that go into existing fixtures - the cfl squiggly bulbs do this but they are harder to find now that LED bulbs have become so common, this bulb size is also referenced as A19.

There is a company in Cleveland Ohio that makes both strip lights and A19 base replacement bulbs, tours are weekdays till 4.

Lighting [Round2] (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2019 8:42 PM

I use screw-in LED bulbs everywhere, not sure where the heat problem would be as they are burn a lot cooler than traditional incandescent and halogen bulbs. I've also used a number of non-replaceable LED fixtures that were really cheap on Amazon, it's been a couple of years now and not one has failed yet.

Lighting [Round2] (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2019 9:17 PM


Local code requires closet loghts to be enclosed or caged for protection from boxes, hangers, etc.

We are now replacing any fixture with the fully enclosed LED chips, no bulbs and sealed to keep out the bugs. LOVE THEM!

They make a small 6 for closets.


Lighting [Round2] (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jan 16, 2019 5:35 AM

I don't like the idea of having to get up on a ladder and remove and replace an entire light fixture instead of just replacing a light bulb.

Not all LED's are equal. I had an LED light rope ( which wasn't cheap) that half the LED's were burned out before the end of the first year. I really don't want to wire in a new light fixture and then have to wire in another new light fixture in a couple of years.

Good luck on finding a light fixture that is not made in China and they have the reputation of making things as cheaply as they can, so I don't trust them to use high quality LED's in their light fixtures.

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