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Apt problem (by John cummings [CA]) Dec 27, 2018 1:10 AM
       Apt problem (by RB [MI]) Dec 27, 2018 4:33 AM
       Apt problem (by NE [PA]) Dec 27, 2018 4:42 AM
       Apt problem (by Barbara [VA]) Dec 27, 2018 5:14 AM
       Apt problem (by myob [GA]) Dec 27, 2018 5:28 AM
       Apt problem (by Steve [TN]) Dec 27, 2018 5:34 AM
       Apt problem (by CGB [MI]) Dec 27, 2018 6:46 AM
       Apt problem (by Deanna [TX]) Dec 27, 2018 6:47 AM
       Apt problem (by Jim In O C [CA]) Dec 27, 2018 7:07 AM
       Apt problem (by CJ [MO]) Dec 27, 2018 8:57 AM
       Apt problem (by Moshe [CA]) Dec 27, 2018 9:11 AM
       Apt problem (by Tom [FL]) Dec 27, 2018 9:30 AM
       Apt problem (by Tom [FL]) Dec 27, 2018 9:36 AM
       Apt problem (by JB [OR]) Dec 27, 2018 11:08 AM
       Apt problem (by NE [PA]) Dec 27, 2018 12:49 PM
       Apt problem (by Txlord [TX]) Dec 27, 2018 8:29 PM
       Apt problem (by Moshe [CA]) Dec 28, 2018 9:41 AM
       Apt problem (by NE [PA]) Dec 28, 2018 9:45 AM
       Apt problem (by Moshe [CA]) Dec 28, 2018 10:29 AM
       Apt problem (by Salernitana [CA]) Dec 28, 2018 11:00 AM
       Apt problem (by JB [OR]) Dec 28, 2018 12:58 PM
       Apt problem (by Moshe [CA]) Dec 28, 2018 1:36 PM
       Apt problem (by Salernitana [CA]) Dec 28, 2018 2:11 PM
       Apt problem (by Moshe [CA]) Dec 28, 2018 3:48 PM
       Apt problem (by 6x6 [TN]) Dec 28, 2018 6:47 PM
       Apt problem (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Dec 29, 2018 4:27 PM
       Apt problem (by Cjo’h [CT]) Jan 4, 2019 8:54 PM
       Apt problem (by Cjo’h [CT]) Jan 4, 2019 9:01 PM
       Apt problem (by Cjo’h [CT]) Jan 6, 2019 1:46 PM
       Apt problem (by Busy [WI]) Jan 6, 2019 5:06 PM
       Apt problem (by Cjo’h [CT]) Jan 12, 2019 3:53 PM
       Apt problem (by JR [ME]) Jan 12, 2019 5:14 PM
       Apt problem (by Busy [WI]) Jan 12, 2019 7:29 PM
       Apt problem (by Cjo’h [CT]) Jan 12, 2019 8:38 PM
       Apt problem (by Cjo’h [CT]) Jan 15, 2019 5:32 PM

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Apt problem (by John cummings [CA]) Posted on: Dec 27, 2018 1:10 AM
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Hello this is john I am deaf . I have a problem with my apt. Manager give me a note and want me kick out apt. For 60 days by feb. 4th 2019.

I have no reason I don't know why ? I was so surprised. Why? Manager is not nice person .because I am deaf. ..I have be lived for 8 years no problem now. First time manager kick me out apt by feb. 4th 2019.

I was upset and have a no place to go to and have no money to move to? But. I like this place want to stay there . I need a help... because no one help me . I am deaf...

Text me (530)908-8162. PLS .

Thx. John --174.222.xx.x




Apt problem (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Dec 27, 2018 4:33 AM
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What ? --184.53.x.xxx




Apt problem (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 27, 2018 4:42 AM
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Deaf and how much you like the place is irrelevant. Sounds like he gave you plenty of notice, probably legal notice. That's plenty of time to find a place. --50.32.xxx.xx




Apt problem (by Barbara [VA]) Posted on: Dec 27, 2018 5:14 AM
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Wow, you certainly seem to harp on your disability alot. So your deaf...so what. It's totally irrelevant. You have been given ample time to come up with a plan. --68.107.xxx.x




Apt problem (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Dec 27, 2018 5:28 AM
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I didn't get that -- did you mention you are deaf?

I would venture that your manager doesn't like you cause you are deaf-- OR and this is big----- your deaf and the manager doesn't like deaf people-- especially deaf people who don't pay their rent.

I don't know why? You said 5 times it's because your deaf so you do know why.

Signed, Your deaf LL. --99.103.xxx.xxx




Apt problem (by Steve [TN]) Posted on: Dec 27, 2018 5:34 AM
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This is likely a troll post. --68.156.xx.xx




Apt problem (by CGB [MI]) Posted on: Dec 27, 2018 6:46 AM
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If your landlord is following California law by giving you 60 days notice, you have no choice but to move. A lease is an agreement between two people. When one of those poeple no longer wants to participate and the contract is fulfilled, the other person can not be forced to continue. --67.149.xxx.xx




Apt problem (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Dec 27, 2018 6:47 AM
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Today is December 27th.

60 days from February 4th was Thursday, December 6th.

Between December 6th and December 27th, did you ask your manager for clarification for anything beyond what was spelled out in the note?

Termination for cause usually falls under one of three categories: not paying your rent on time, not taking care of the premises, or bothering the neighbors.

But termination for cause isn't always necessary in all places. Sometimes, all a ll has to do is say, "This isn't working out. Here is your notice." And that's sufficient.

I would look on Craigslist for someone seeking a roommate to split costs with, or look under "rooms & shares" for people who are renting out space in their personal homes. You give up privacy, but in exchange, you drastically cut your expenses. --96.46.xxx.xx




Apt problem (by Jim In O C [CA]) Posted on: Dec 27, 2018 7:07 AM
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California law requires a 60 day notice after 1 year of residence. Must offer an inspection 2 weeks prior to move out to identify any charges to your security deposit.

Start looking for a new place now. --99.23.xxx.x




Apt problem (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: Dec 27, 2018 8:57 AM
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Both of you have the right to give notice and end the lease. You, the tenant, can give notice to end the lease too if you choose to do so. --97.91.xxx.xxx




Apt problem (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Dec 27, 2018 9:11 AM
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Depends on where you are in CA.

Call your local housing authority for direction to a housing rights counselor.

--47.139.xx.xxx




Apt problem (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Dec 27, 2018 9:30 AM
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I was upset and have a no place to go to and have no money to move to?

Oh cry me a river!!!

You have no money to move and no money to pay rent.

Heres your sign...

...eviction notice! BYE BYE

Apt problem? No you're the problem.

Landlord's the problem. NO you're the problem. Landlord gave you notice to move it's time to MOVE.

OR reach into your pockets and buy yourself a place to live. Oh thats right your pockets are empty. So now it's time for you to move.

If you came here for a warm and fuzzy feeling, not happening, find a big fuzzy teddy bear to get you a warm and fuzzy feeling.

Take time out of your busy day to find a new place to live AND START PACKING. BYE BYE

Oh those evil landlords in CA, go with more rent control for the libby left coast.

Oh the libby left coast protects the deadbeat tenant!!!

--99.56.xx.xx




Apt problem (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Dec 27, 2018 9:36 AM
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On second thoughts just call Moshe of CA he's got deep pockets and will pay for your move and give you a FREE place to stay.

Oh heck Moshe is a 501K he's got lots of money and will give you ALL the money you need to move and set up house keeping in one of his many rent controlled units on the liibby left coast of cali.

--99.56.xx.xx




Apt problem (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Dec 27, 2018 11:08 AM
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Looks like it's time to get a job, maybe two jobs. Start saving some money. Find a new place to live immediately.

Quit thinking that people owe you something because you have a handicap. That won't get you anywhere. Work hard. Make good choices. Associate with those who want to improve their lives. Stay away from losers and users. Change your thinking! --24.20.xxx.xxx




Apt problem (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 27, 2018 12:49 PM
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Ya, call a housing counselor and find a way to game the system to stay longer. The landlord wants you out, why continue down a path that's already going south? Whether he's doing it right or wrong at this point, it's obviously the beginning of the end of your tenancy there.

Stick around too long and then up getting LEGALLY evicted and have that on your record. Jeez Moshe, I wonder where your frame of reference comes from sometimes. --50.32.xxx.xx




Apt problem (by Txlord [TX]) Posted on: Dec 27, 2018 8:29 PM
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Heck I am partially deaf and a LL.. I don't like being deaf..

:) --72.180.xx.xxx




Apt problem (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Dec 28, 2018 9:41 AM
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Its all been said, here, before: We all deserve a fair chance to exercise what rights we have, landlord or tenant. We all deserve good advice about how to exercise these rights.

Although I am not a Christian, I believe in honesty and fairness, and practice such philosophy. I am an educated man, and I use that attribute to treat my tenants in a way commensurate with my background.

Other landlords may look at this situation and the only thing that comes to their mind is, how to profit by hook or by crook, regardless of any higher principles. Sorry, but I won't join you.

It seems to be an especially good time of year to contemplate these ideas. For me, the season of reflection and penitence is in the Fall, but for those who profess belief in other moral systems and White holidays, I might have expected a higher level of integrity.

John Cummings doesn't really pinpoint what his problem is. He is deaf, and maybe his manager doesn't comport well with his handicap. We have no idea why his manager wants him gone, good reason or not. He has certain rights to his dwelling, although so many landlord posters here probably don't even know about that.

Our system of justice requires that everyone have access to the proper advice to be able to use their rights to their best advantage. It is so easy to be a landlord without being selfish and devious and solely concerned with triumphing over poor and ignorant tenants, including handicapped ones. An experienced landlord of high moral background doesn't need to rely on denial of rights to make a living in this business.

--47.139.xx.xxx




Apt problem (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 28, 2018 9:45 AM
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Would you give your own tenants the same advice? If you gave them notice, would you help them fight it? --174.201.xx.xx




Apt problem (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Dec 28, 2018 10:29 AM
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Sorry, but I don't see the relationship.

Would I give the same advice to my own tenant? Of Course. My moral compass doesn't depend of my getting away with something at someone else's expense. If a tenant has some right, I will observe that right, and if there is a problem, I will deal with the problem, not with trying to put something over on someone else.

If John is an irrecvocably bad tenant, then I will terminate his tenancy. I can do it honestly and sincerely, explaining why (having tried to solve the underlying problem). If he has a problem communicating with a manager who is short-tempered I would deal with that (actually, I manage myself).

NE, you seem to be ignorant of what happens when a tenant gets counseling. You seem to think that counseling means attorneys and tricks to fool someone and court battles and expenses and acrimony and prolonged deferments.

Educated guys like you and I (I give you benefit of the doubt) realize that Courts are a last resort for solving problems, don't need to spend money on an attorney, can carry ourselves through a problem without losing our professionality, and have access to fair and efficient courts. At least I do.

I had a problem (small) in the fall. A tenant insisted that 24 hours notice meant 24 hours, no more and no less, so that he could optimize his time by being himself at home to watch me show the apartment, without having to wait while I may or may come with another applicant (I gave notice that I would enter to show on every Saturday from 9am to 1pm). He got pretty excited about not getting his way. He went to the local Housing Rights office and the counselor explained to him how it works and what his rights were and weren't. Thank you, Housing Rights counselor.

You seem to be afraid of these small complications in landlord life. I don't know, maybe in your state, you lack the support of a good Court system that is designed to provide the correct result to all parties without tricks.

Who's afraid of the big, bad Housing Rights counselor? Do you think that He/she is there to cheat the landlords? Maybe its a pretty sophisticated idea for you?

--47.139.xx.xxx




Apt problem (by Salernitana [CA]) Posted on: Dec 28, 2018 11:00 AM
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John, you should look into the advice of Moshe and Deanna immediately since you are fast nearing the date of the termination of your lease. The deaf community is notoriously as strong one, and you should ask your friends on leads for whatever type of housing that you can afford.

Moshe did note that it depends on the city in which you live, and it sounds like your place is not under rent control;Jim in OC mentioned the law correctly in that case.

Also, as with any public forum, you should just make up a name as is usually customary when you initiate or participate. Best of luck. --24.43.xxx.xxx




Apt problem (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Dec 28, 2018 12:58 PM
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Maybe Moshe has been particularly lucky in her dealings with the local courts. Unfortunately, I have seen our local judges favor the tenants over matters that should never have gone their way. The only reason for doing so seems to be that the courts apparently believe the LL is some rich entity with endlessly deep pockets and that tenants deserve every benefit (even when they have done horrendous and obvious damage and/or failed to pay).

I think Moshe is living in the perfect state for him. I'm sure Fred, Robert J, Jim O C and others have a somewhat different perspective. All I can say is I wish all of those who think and vote like Moshe would stay in the states they enjoy pushing that agenda and not move to mine after the rules and regulations they have helped facilitate make their states unbearably hostile to business. --24.20.xxx.xxx




Apt problem (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Dec 28, 2018 1:36 PM
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" Unfortunately, I have seen our local judges favor the tenants over matters that should never have gone their way. "

Very frankly JB, if what you say is true, then there is something wrong with your state's ability to organize their courts. Perhaps you do not understand on what basis the courts make their decisions. The quality of reason that you suggest ("The only reason for doing so seems to be that the courts apparently believe the LL is some rich entity with endlessly deep pockets and that tenants deserve every benefit (even when they have done horrendous and obvious damage and/or failed to pay.") I don't know anything about OR, but in general, courts don't work that way at all.

Much as I LOVE the US, one great disappointment has been the level of public education provided. Even students who go on to university (state universities, that is) lack the level of logic and insight that is necessary in the world of 2018 to realize and deal with all but the simplest problems. In your case, it seems that you have a victim's mentality, blaming all of your failures to get your way on unfair judges. I have seen complaints by RobertJ, but I don't understand why he is so consistently at loss. However, just for one thing, I note that he accepts temporary judges, who often are insufficiently experienced, lack the mature seasoning, and often think that their job is to help the underdog. I don't accept anything but real judges (actually, I haven't been to court is decades). Usually, the reasons for a landlord not to be able to get a good result in court is that his case doesn't comport with the law or good sense, or that he wasn't prepared for a tenant defense. I use an attorney firm that specializes in landlord/tenant law (for landlords), they boast of 175,000 evictions performed, they have a stable of nearly a dozen Associates, all who know LL/tenant law, the courts, the judges, all of the usual eviction lawyers and all the the usual defenses. It indeed pays to be prepared.

I don't have an agenda to push, but I do realize that CA Courts have worked for me, maybe because I am able to understand why they make decisions as they do. I don't see my failures as those of a victim, because I am not. Fred, JimOC and others can speak for themselves.

--47.139.xx.xxx




Apt problem (by Salernitana [CA]) Posted on: Dec 28, 2018 2:11 PM
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Moshe, thank you for the tip about not using temporary judges.

This is off the topic of the original post, however, what is the name of the attorney firm that you had you used when you had to go to court? In NorCal, Todd Rothbard is very good. Thank you in advance. --174.239.xx.xxx




Apt problem (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Dec 28, 2018 3:48 PM
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Dennis Block. Avoid Associate Daniel Costas.

--47.139.xx.xxx




Apt problem (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Dec 28, 2018 6:47 PM
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John said he has been there for eight years and said nothing about not being able to pay rent. He also mentioned first time manager so I wonder if this is a new manager and/or owner situation. It is interesting to me to read the different responses on this. There is definitely a difference in land lording style. John,you are on a land lord website and should probably go to a tenant website,but you have been given some good advice on here including not to post on any public forum in your real name. --73.120.xx.xxx




Apt problem (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Dec 29, 2018 4:27 PM
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It sounds like with this notice you might in fact become homeless. You might want to check in with your local housing office to see if there assistance with homeless prevention.

You haven't said why your Landlord isn't a nice person or why they don't seem to like you because of your disability.

I had a blind resident once and they lived with me for 13 years. My deaf tenant was with me for about eight years. I find my residents that are disabled tend to stay a bit longer than my non-disabled counter parts.

Only thing I could think that was an issue with my deaf resident was finding enough smoke detectors that had a flashing strobe light. I had to get some assistance with the local fore department to get them ordered. They did cost a little bit more than others - but the resident was with me until they died on me.

--72.23.xxx.xx




Apt problem (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Jan 4, 2019 8:54 PM
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John ,This is Charlie and I am not deaf,Don’t think deafness has anything to do with the manager wanting you to move,maybe your attitude has more to do with it,So maybe if you change your attitude,things may be different,and talk to the person and ask why they want you to skydaddle?...................Charlie..........you paying rent,like you’re supposed to?that could have something to do with it.............,,,,,,,,,?????,,,,,, .... --32.214.xxx.xx




Apt problem (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Jan 4, 2019 9:01 PM
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As far as I know,Moises is a ladyAnd an immigrant like myself! An diggan Tu?............Catal........... --32.214.xxx.xx




Apt problem (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Jan 6, 2019 1:46 PM
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Shabbat Shalome............. Charlie. ........Agus. Nolan. Sona Dhuit..............,,,,,,,, --32.214.xxx.xx




Apt problem (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jan 6, 2019 5:06 PM
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Oi!

Moshe is fairly common Jewish man’s name, as far as I know. And, Moshe said he was an educated man. I also think a housing office might help sort out this situation, if only just to help the original poster understand the position.

Whenever I have been in an adversarial position with a tenant, or a city inspector, I find it best to communicate, find the common ground, and move forward. Sometimes it means tenant and I will part ways, but, so far, with my limited years as a landlord, I have found success, rather than trouble, by communicating. (Doesn’t mean one always gets what they want, but, helps everyone come to understanding.)

Back to the topic at hand. Dear Original Poster, you’ve been given some good advice in this thread, even if there were a few sharp posts. Wonderful thing about modern technology, you can text your landlord to see if there are any options. Not having money to move isn’t a reason for you to stay. Being deaf hasn’t anything to do with it, as far as I can tell. Do not pester, harass, harangue your landlord. Now is the time to focus on a smooth move-out, see what needs to be done to maximize the amount of security deposit, if any, that may be returned to you.

In my state, that would be plenty of proper notice, and I may give a tenant Notice to Vacate without giving any reason, with 28 days notice. The thing is, your landlord may have reasons entirely unrelated to you, that they need the property back. 8 years is quite a while to live in one place, without benefit of owning. Perhaps being a home-owner (condo, co-op. Lots of possibilities,) might suit.

I suggest you work at savings three months living expenses, once you arrive in your new place. (Very likely you will be moving.) I encourage all of my tenants to ‘set something aside for a rainy day, ‘ as well as plan for their next place. (A couple of my tenants have been getting coached about home-ownership. I’ve let them know, I think they should move into a house they own in a few years.) --70.92.xxx.xxx




Apt problem (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Jan 12, 2019 3:53 PM
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Busy,Moises, is a lady, just like yourself and probably educated to the same degree as most of us immigrants,public school,and then Bye Bye. Moise Dyan was a Freedom Fighter,and got some of his training from Joe. Cahill.Was good at what he did. The children here say I’m a little deaf too.,But I hear what I need to.,You get my drift?..................... Charlie......................?????? ......When I need to ...... --32.214.xxx.xx




Apt problem (by JR [ME]) Posted on: Jan 12, 2019 5:14 PM
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John, you have stumbled onto a landlord site. You might get a more sympathetic reply on a tenant site. The fact that the new bad manager doesn’t like you or that you like the apartment or that you have no money means nothing.

Moshe’s advice is good, contact a housing authority to see if there is something available to you.

Moshe, I didn’t see a lot of posted replies that were from greedy, unscrupulous landlords. You have a morally superior chip on your shoulder that bubbles through most of your posts that I find annoying, but as you are a phantom on the internet, all is fine. --98.13.xx.xxx




Apt problem (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jan 12, 2019 7:29 PM
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All of our advice has fallen on deaf ears. --70.92.xxx.xxx




Apt problem (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Jan 12, 2019 8:38 PM
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Busy, you are on the Ball.....Charlie........ --32.214.xxx.xx




Apt problem (by Cjo’h [CT]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2019 5:32 PM
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Dr.Mike, don’t think it matters where John stumbled.He May still have a problem? .................. Charlie,,,,,,,,,,, --32.214.xxx.xx



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