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Magestrates (by warren631 [PA]) Nov 22, 2018 12:20 PM
       Magestrates (by NE [PA]) Nov 22, 2018 12:32 PM
       Magestrates (by Opinionated [NC]) Nov 22, 2018 12:33 PM
       Magestrates (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Nov 22, 2018 12:33 PM
       Magestrates (by Tom [FL]) Nov 22, 2018 12:43 PM
       Magestrates (by warren631 [PA]) Nov 22, 2018 1:05 PM
       Magestrates (by NE [PA]) Nov 22, 2018 1:19 PM
       Magestrates (by Robert J [CA]) Nov 22, 2018 4:54 PM
       Magestrates (by Vee [OH]) Nov 22, 2018 7:56 PM
       Magestrates (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Nov 22, 2018 8:38 PM
       Magestrates (by myob [GA]) Nov 23, 2018 5:26 AM
       Magestrates (by Ed [PA]) Nov 23, 2018 3:13 PM
       Magestrates (by Tony [NJ]) Nov 24, 2018 5:09 AM


Magestrates (by warren631 [PA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2018 12:20 PM
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How much power do local Magistrates have to modify or 'interpret' the law (68 Pa. Cons. Stat. Ann. § § 250.101 to 399.18). I was trying to evict a m-m tenant because my son needed the house. I gave Tenant one months notice. My local Magistrate said I can't evict for at least 60 days or 'after Christmas and new years' because of the hardship of moving just before the holidays'. Seems like they make up their own rules depending on their mood.

Now does the 60 days start from when I first asked the Tenant to leave? Or do I have to ask him to leave again and start counting days again? Magistrate just said goodbye and left.

--174.55.xxx.xxx




Magestrates (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2018 12:32 PM
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That judge made that up, but it's not worth an appeal. Serve him 60 day notice tomorrow with a constable! (The 60 days is only because this judge is asking for it)

I give 60 days when asking someone to leave so I'm covered in case what happened to you were to happen to me. Makes zero sense with a m2m.

That notice will start Dec 1st. If he isn't out at the end of January file immediately. Take a copy of the notice and a receipt from the constable.

If you ask, the constable may take pics of the posting and possibly the tenant reading the notice and send to you. Mine does when I ask him to.

--50.32.xxx.xxx




Magestrates (by Opinionated [NC]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2018 12:33 PM
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After being sure that you know the statutes involved, you have two choices. One is to appeal to the next judicial level. Another is what I did-- sort of blind luck. Magistrates are appointed in NC. Shortly the magistrate ruling in my case, 100% opposite from the statute-- the facts were not in dispute-- a newspaper article appeared about a group opposed to his upcoming reappointment based on his handling of arrested drunk drivers-- he was just turning all of them loose immediately without bail. I contacted the group and their leader, a retired attorney, told me who to contact-- 3 different people. The magistrate was not reappointed AND the court system on their own reopened my case and ruled in my favor.

Complain to higher-ups. --66.44.xxx.xx




Magestrates (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2018 12:33 PM
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First of all, you're not evicting. It's a month-to-month so you're giving notice of non-renewal and letting it expire naturally.

But, now that a Magistrate is involved, that may mean either way, you're going to court. No matter what the law, you already know they're going to side with the tenant.

If it were me, I'd just give notice now that lease expires Jan 31. If you send it now, it can serve as record of 60 day notice.

If they remain, then you throw them out on the basis that they have stayed past their move-out date. At that point, you'll have the 60 day notice and it will be well past the holidays, unless your magistrate celebrates Groundhog's Day. --108.69.xxx.xxx




Magestrates (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2018 12:43 PM
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Yes this is a pro tenant magistrate. During the winter months 30 day notice and during the summer months 15 day notice. OR the lease can cancel out the days for notice. However this magistrate is a pro-tenant and you need to have all your I's dotted and T's crossed. You need to make sure you have all your paperwork/paper trails in place with tenants. Also get a copy of the PA landlord tenant law and read it.

This is a magistrate that will side with a deadbeat tenant! --99.56.xx.xx




Magestrates (by warren631 [PA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2018 1:05 PM
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My son found other accommodation but I still want to get rid of this PIA m-m (with written lease) tenant. He has tested the local magistrate so I don't expect the next rent will be on time. Can I email or send him a registered letter advising him that the rent is going to increase by $100 starting January 1st and some other changes to the lease such as requiring paying rent online and getting sufficient renters insurance? Do I have to have a new written lease signed by the tenant? --174.55.xxx.xxx




Magestrates (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2018 1:19 PM
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If he doesn't pay next months rent, evict faster. --50.32.xxx.xxx




Magestrates (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2018 4:54 PM
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I don't want to make anyone thinks this will work, because most of the time it's a waste of time. The judge in one of my eviction cases stated a new rule passed by the City Counsel that in hardship cases, I could not evict families during holidays.

I asked the Bozo, I mean judge, "are you telling me the tenant can live in my income property RENT FREE, or just not evict them during a major holiday"?

The judge replied that he wasn't sure? I then stated that if your interpretation is I can't evict until after Christmas and New Years, then set a "LOCK OUT DATE for the SHERIFF" after that period and issue me a JUDGEMENT for all due BACK RENT.

The judge thought that he couldn't do that, that I had to bring a second action to collect back due rent. My attorney showed the judge his legal powers and ability to issue orders contingent on the tenants performance or lack there of.

The tenant and their free legal aid stated that the tenant was "unsure" when they could be out and my need an extra 90 days, beyond not paying rent for the last two months.

So I asked the judge if he could modify my property tax so I can take the lost rent money out of my taxes that help pay for the police, fire and schools. The judge was mad at me, I have a responsibility to the community to pay my fair share of the taxes. So judge you are saying landlords have to pay their bills but tenants aren't required to pay rent?

We, my attorney and I, then asked for a real judge, not an attorney that is playing judge for the day. Our case got transferred to another court and the real judge said, according to the records the tenant has admitted they haven't paid rent in 60 days and want's to stay past new years. So I am ordering the Sheriff to issue a lock-out notice on January 2nd, lock-out to be conducted within 10 days after notice was served. Then my attorney will submit the paperwork adding the extra rent due to my judgement. Case solved. --47.156.xx.xx




Magestrates (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2018 7:56 PM
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I would not raise the rent - blatantly obvious retaliation, when the rent is unpaid follow he lease and the law. --76.188.xxx.xx




Magestrates (by Live The Dream [AZ]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2018 8:38 PM
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Judges have to follow the law, especially lower court judges don't get to make the law, though superior court judges sometimes try. One way to ensure this is to remind them of the actual statutes, if not posting the actual law text in your various written pleadings.

The key in my limited experience is not to give the judge any leeway. State the law, state the violation, state the remedy desired. If they go changing law on their own I would object and remind them of the law as ask why they are not adhering to it. If denied I would inform the judge of intent to appeal based upon his illegal ruling.

I am respectful of judges in court but I do not treat them as gods. Some are total morons and I will call them on bad rulings. In fact in my county I hope I never have to go to court again, because I know at least two that would give me life in Supermax if my car dripped oil on the street! I told one to his face at an event that he should move back to California. The guy let a punk who shot a drunk guy riding a bicycle in the BACK, let him off on "self defense." Voters were outraged over that. That judge will no longer be a judge in January. --47.216.xx.xxx




Magestrates (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2018 5:26 AM
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Judges are tenants to. Idiots as they may be. Our stand in judge said in open court-- I know what the law says but I don't think that's what it means........ I was put in jail for 3 days because I put a women's stuff in storage that had been in the front yard due to sheriff eviction until she got out of jail. She went a swore out a warrant for me stealing her stuff.

Someone here mentions -- YA gotta know your judges and you do--- but you gotta know LL tenant law--- I mean you gotta study them. --99.103.xxx.xxx




Magestrates (by Ed [PA]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2018 3:13 PM
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Local magistrates do makeup their own rules, no they are not allowed but very little you can do about it.

In your case, you are not renewing a month to month lease, after the non-renewal period is up you start eviction process if the tenant has not moved. The Landlord Tenant Act of 1951 provides the notice of non-renewal of a month to month as 15 days during the summer and 30 days during the winter. Most magistrates will require you to provide 30 day notice of non-renewal to be issued prior to the beginning of the payment period and they enforce that 30 days all year round.

Philly tends to be a little more tenant friendly and may have passed laws that require 60 days. Some smaller fiefdoms may also have passed laws requiring 60 day notice but they would be in violation of state law as they do not have the power to pass those kinds of laws.

In any case, it will be cheaper and faster for you to follow the magistrates request, provide a 60 day non-renewal of lease. Send it prior to Dec 1 with lease ending Jan 31. On Feb 1 file for holdover eviction. --96.235.xx.xx




Magestrates (by Tony [NJ]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2018 5:09 AM
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Consider an appeal. I know it can be a long time to be scheduled. You likely know that PA magistrates are elected, not appointed. A NJ attorney once told me that magistrates DO NOT have to be a member of the BAR which means they don't necessarily have to be certified with their legal knowledge. One time I brought a bad check charge against someone in Northampton County. The offender's attorney argued the check was postdated and therefore was NOT a bad check but a promissory note. I disagreed, gave my version, and asked the magistrate who he agreed with. He said he didn't know and rescheduled the case 30 days from then. --73.215.xxx.xx





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