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Going over concrete floor (by JB [OR]) Nov 16, 2018 3:38 PM
       Going over concrete floor (by Richard [MI]) Nov 16, 2018 3:48 PM
       Going over concrete floor (by NE [PA]) Nov 16, 2018 3:49 PM
       Going over concrete floor (by plenty [MO]) Nov 16, 2018 3:54 PM
       Going over concrete floor (by NE [PA]) Nov 16, 2018 3:58 PM
       Going over concrete floor (by MikeA [TX]) Nov 16, 2018 4:15 PM
       Going over concrete floor (by Steve [MA]) Nov 16, 2018 4:16 PM
       Going over concrete floor (by JB [OR]) Nov 16, 2018 6:26 PM
       Going over concrete floor (by gevans [SC]) Nov 17, 2018 4:27 AM
       Going over concrete floor (by LindaJ [NY]) Nov 17, 2018 6:08 AM
       Going over concrete floor (by JB [OR]) Nov 17, 2018 7:48 PM
       Going over concrete floor (by Robert J [CA]) Nov 17, 2018 9:09 PM


Going over concrete floor (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2018 3:38 PM
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I have a room that someone added over what was previously an outdoor concrete patio. I would like to put down a wood floor laminate or similar floor over the concrete. Unfortunately, the concrete slab has split in some areas and is now not level enough to do this without leveling the floor somehow first. I'd rather not use any carpet in this room because I'll have washer/dryer/water heater in there and it is large enough to act as an extra bedroom or office as well.

What would be your suggestions for going over the existing concrete so that I can best have a fresh, flat surface to work with?

Should I try pouring concrete over existing surface (not sure this would work well) or build it up with 2x4's then plywood? Or something else altogether???

p.s. This room also drops down several inches, so I have the ability to come up six inches or so from the existing slab. --24.20.xxx.xxx




Going over concrete floor (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2018 3:48 PM
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How about mudjacking the slab?

--23.121.xx.xxx




Going over concrete floor (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2018 3:49 PM
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How far out really is it? Probably glue down linoleum would work unless you want to get into serious work. --50.107.xxx.xxx




Going over concrete floor (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2018 3:54 PM
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Can you level sheets of 3/4 thick plywood...raising the floor up to level? There is concrete lever. That works well. --99.203.xx.xxx




Going over concrete floor (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2018 3:58 PM
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I forgot about floor leveler. That's probably your best bet as long as it's not a foundation issue. Most slabs crack eventually. Mix the leveler thin and pour it out. Then you can tile it. --50.107.xxx.xxx




Going over concrete floor (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2018 4:15 PM
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Self leveling floor lever is made for this very application. It is a powder that you mix to the consistency of a malt and pour it out.

My only concern would be that if there is a bad crack in the floor then likely the portions of the slab are moving at different rates which the floor leveler will fill but not stop from further heaves/settles. In this case you probably need to mud jack it to stabilize the underlying slab, or just jackhammer it out and pour in new the the appropriate steel to keep it from happening again. --50.26.xx.xxx




Going over concrete floor (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2018 4:16 PM
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before you can make an informed decision you need to figure out why the floor cracked. You also need to determine if there are any settlement issues with the exterior wall of this room

Presuming that the are no longer any further settling issues you have several choices including;

1. Fill the cracks & seal the concrete to help prevent moisture from coming up thru it. Install either a wood floor that comes attached to plywood or a vinyl floor like the LifeProof vinyl floor from HD

2. Fill the cracks & top the entire area with light weight gypcrete then proceed with flooring as suggested in #1

3. Fill the cracks, seal the concrete and 2x sleepers scribed to the existing slab then add a layer of 3/4" Advantec followed by finished flooring

IMO you should use a finish floor that is not prone to having issues when exposed to moisture vapor from below. --96.237.xx.xx




Going over concrete floor (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2018 6:26 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions. I, too, forgot about a concrete floor leveler. This may work.

The cracks are up to maybe 3/4" wide at the widest points and the height difference is maybe a 1/2" give or take.

This home is about 75 or 80 years old so the settling could have happened anywhere in that time I suppose. And we did have a pretty good quake in the mid 90's so that could have exacerbated or started it.

I'm not familiar with mud jacking. I guess I'll have to look into that...

And thanks Steve(MA) for the detailed steps. I may have to discuss your method with someone more familiar with concrete flooring. That sounds very thorough and may provide the best results... --24.20.xxx.xxx




Going over concrete floor (by gevans [SC]) Posted on: Nov 17, 2018 4:27 AM
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Floor leveling compound will be your cheapest way out.

But I think wood frame with plywood subfloor is the BEST way out. It will stay level if/when the concrete continues to shift. And you said you could raise it 6 inches anyways...

I'd raise it to match the other floors. --173.233.xxx.xxx




Going over concrete floor (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Nov 17, 2018 6:08 AM
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I would seal the cracks, even with backer rod or foam. Just to keep the moisture from coming up. Lay at least 6 mil plastic, overlap and tape the seams to put in a good moisture barrier. Lay 2x sleepers, shimmed to level, insulate with good foam board between them, top with plywood to make an insulated, raised, level floor. Then you can use whatever flooring you want on top of that.

I have that in a converted garage and it has worked well over the years and kept warm in the winters here. --108.4.xxx.xx




Going over concrete floor (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Nov 17, 2018 7:48 PM
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Thanks Gevans and Linda. I like both of those suggestions. --24.20.xxx.xxx




Going over concrete floor (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Nov 17, 2018 9:09 PM
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I have an enclosed patio with a stone floor that my tenant didn't alert me that tree roots were lifting the floor. And each time i inspected the home, annually, they had a desk or bed covering this damage. They never told me.

So by the time they moved out, the floor was lifted in areas around 1 to 2 inches. So with my diamond concrete saw I cut out the bad areas. Removed the roots and filled it in with new concrete. Then after the concrete dried, I used fast setting concrete, I put down a new laminate flooring throughout the house. I put a good vapor barrier between the concrete and the wood laminate. This was a lot of work, taking an extra day and a half. --47.156.xx.xx





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