Evicting a Hoarder (by Roy [AL]) Oct 30, 2018 6:24 AM|
Evicting a Hoarder (by S i d [MO]) Oct 30, 2018 6:36 AM
Evicting a Hoarder (by Nicole [PA]) Oct 30, 2018 6:49 AM
Evicting a Hoarder (by bet [MA]) Oct 30, 2018 7:02 AM
Evicting a Hoarder (by S i d [MO]) Oct 30, 2018 7:18 AM
Evicting a Hoarder (by S i d [MO]) Oct 30, 2018 7:26 AM
Evicting a Hoarder (by David [MI]) Oct 30, 2018 7:46 AM
Evicting a Hoarder (by Vee [OH]) Oct 30, 2018 8:12 AM
Evicting a Hoarder (by pete [OR]) Oct 30, 2018 8:19 AM
Evicting a Hoarder (by WMH [NC]) Oct 30, 2018 10:08 AM
Evicting a Hoarder (by Ken [NY]) Oct 30, 2018 10:16 AM
Evicting a Hoarder (by Tom [FL]) Oct 30, 2018 11:30 AM
Evicting a Hoarder (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Oct 30, 2018 1:17 PM
Evicting a Hoarder (by melinda [MD]) Oct 30, 2018 1:19 PM
Evicting a Hoarder (by Roy [AL]) Oct 30, 2018 2:34 PM
Evicting a Hoarder (by NE [PA]) Oct 30, 2018 4:24 PM
Evicting a Hoarder (by David [MI]) Oct 30, 2018 4:48 PM
Evicting a Hoarder (by del [MD]) Oct 30, 2018 6:57 PM
Evicting a Hoarder (by don [PA]) Oct 30, 2018 6:58 PM
Evicting a Hoarder (by Small potatoes [NY]) Oct 30, 2018 8:50 PM
Evicting a Hoarder (by Roy [AL]) Oct 31, 2018 2:03 AM
Evicting a Hoarder (by Nicole [PA]) Oct 31, 2018 7:15 AM
Evicting a Hoarder (by cjl [NY]) Oct 31, 2018 8:49 AM
Evicting a Hoarder (by Roy [AL]) Oct 31, 2018 11:38 AM
Evicting a Hoarder (by Roy [AL]) Nov 1, 2018 3:08 AM
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Evicting a Hoarder (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2018 6:24 AM
On Wednesday, I should be getting a Writ of Possession on an eviction that started 3 weeks ago. On Friday morning, the Constable and I will be at the house to evict the two deadbeats. Usually, the Constable will tell me I have 30 minutes to remove all junk and put it on the curb.
The problem here is my tenant is a hoarder which is half the reason I am evicting him. I will have hired help but this is something that could take all day long.
Has anyone here ever evicted a Hoarder and had to remove all of the junk in a short period of time? Any tips would be appreciated. --68.63.xxx.xxx
Evicting a Hoarder (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2018 6:36 AM
30 minutes? Wow....
In my town, the sheriff's deputy schedules evictions for an hour, but we only call him if there's "trouble" (i.e. the people interfere, refuse to move, try to pick a fight). Otherwise, we don't see him at all. Maybe you can work out the same kind of deal with your Constable?
Barring that, have an 80-yard dumpster sitting in front of the door and you plus 3-4 helpers "remove" the belongings into it, after which time the ex-tenants are welcome to take whatever they want and the trash company will haul away the rest. Your houses are like mine size-wise, I think. With 4 people working and just chucking stuff out the door I imagine even a floor to ceiling 900 sq ft house could be cleared PDQ.
Nothing in my states laws say precisely how we have to remove the stuff...so a dumpster works as well as the curb. Again, they can TAKE OUT anything they want. But after 24 hours it's anyone's right to do whatever with it. --173.20.xxx.xxx
Evicting a Hoarder (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2018 6:49 AM
I don't understand why do you have to remove it right away? What are the consequences against you if you don't? --72.70.xxx.x
Evicting a Hoarder (by bet [MA]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2018 7:02 AM
Biggest mistake we have made with renting to a hoarder is not evicting them sooner. Get as much help as you can, $10 an hr and get it moved out, that is all you can do if you only have 30 mins. Craigslist gigs is a good place to start to look for daily, short term help. You have to place an ad, request photo id of all workers. --74.104.xxx.xxx
Evicting a Hoarder (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2018 7:18 AM
I know bet's a smart cookie, so this is merely a clarification...obviously you can't pay $10/hour and expect someone to show up for 30 minutes....
This is probably going to require at least $50 for someone to show up and work fast. My guess is your best bet would be to pick up some of the local friends from south of the border who hang out at Lowes in the AM looking for work. They're speedy, hard-working and they understand $ on the barrel.
But really, I'd try to see what's the constable's deal.... 30 minutes simply is not enough time to clear a house. On my most recent set out last year I had four helpers and it took us every minute of the hour we had to get their stuff out, and they were NOT hoarders. There's gotta be some way to extend that time. --173.20.xxx.xxx
Evicting a Hoarder (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2018 7:26 AM
Btw, we also brought along plastic tubs, a few construction site 50-gallon gray trash cans, and 30 gallon heavy duty trash bags with easy cinch cords. Everything got tossed into a tub, bin, or bag and taken out the front door and put on a pile. Made it easier to dump it all later and kept stuff from scattering all over the yard.
I was somewhat surprised when we showed up that day how unprepared to leave the tenant was. This was a single mom with a kid who was...maybe 8-10 months old? It was a cold day. When we got there, she's gotten two of the neighbor guys to come over to start packing....one asked me if "she could have about 8 more hours."
Me: "No...she's had 3 weeks to prepare for this and is just now getting started. This is happening now."
I knew if I'd given her that time I would have come back the next day to a still-full house and have lost my day with the deputy. We would have had to refile the execution and wait another week.
Gotta be prepared to pull the trigger when the time arrives.
It was one of the least pleasant events of my life, so this is why now I'm less inclined to "work with" people. Also why I do inside property inspections: can't allow hoarding situations to develop. Yes, it CAN get worse. --173.20.xxx.xxx
Evicting a Hoarder (by David [MI]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2018 7:46 AM
What happens if you don't get all the tenant's stuff out in 30 mins? Do you turn into a pumpkin? no seriously, what happens? --198.135.xxx.xx
Evicting a Hoarder (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2018 8:12 AM
I would focus on the furniture - the stacks of other stuff is gonna take awhile - trailer it to the new house, open the rear doors, drive away fast at 6am. --76.188.xxx.xx
Evicting a Hoarder (by pete [OR]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2018 8:19 AM
I had some hoarder tenants for 3 years. He worked for the local trash service so they did remove all their stuff. The last 2 months were the worst with the woman complaining about finding maggots under something on the floor and gnats flying around the kitchen. Of course, It was my fault. Overall, it turned out better than expected. It didn't smell inside and they got along with the neighbors,always paid on time. --67.41.xx.xx
Evicting a Hoarder (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2018 10:08 AM
We had a hoarder for 7+ years. When we finally asked her to leave it cost us $$$$$$$$$$ to remove the PLANTINGS she put everywhere...trees and bushes and plants and flowers and ivy... luckily she DID take all her other carp with her... --50.82.xxx.xx
Evicting a Hoarder (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2018 10:16 AM
Call ahead of time and explain the situation,ask if they will declare most of it no value and allow you to leave it there till you have a dumpster,maybe they will determine what has value and put that outside and the junk can stay inside for the time being and you can change the locks
Evicting a Hoarder (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2018 11:30 AM
Wednesday, Writ of Possession, started 3 weeks ago.
Friday morning, Constable and AL PLUS hired help will be at the house to evict the two deadbeats. Before hired help shows up give them the game plan. Focus on grab and remove everything. It may seem over whelming when they walk in and see the amount of junk. It will be hard work, it may smell bad in the place, get vicks to place under the nose to help kill the smell and mask as well for the hired help, plus glove: rubber and/or canvas gloves.
Once you are done the wood dresser and/or other furniture will look like firewood . Being dropped from the second floor window. NOT YOUR PROBLEM, Constable gave 30 minutes
The Constable will tell you, you have 30 minutes to remove all junk and put it to the curb.
Your GOAL is to get the placed cleaned out in 30 minutes, with plenty of hired helped, incentives for the hired helped to get it cleaned out in 30 minutes.
Does it matter how the stuff is removed from the house? If stuff is damaged does this matter according to ALABAMA LAW??? IF not being gentle with the stuff is not a NEEDED OPTION. Toss it out the windows toward the curb as well. If the windows can be opened facing the curb. or the window sashes remove to give a clear area to toss stuff to the curb from the second floor, DO IT. Once the stuff hits the ground its not your fault the stuff broke. All well too bad!!! Heavy Duty Garbage bags is filled drop it from the window to the ground. Get wheel barrows, wide flat shovels and 3 guys in each room loading the wheel barrow, carrying large items out to the curb/roll off dumpster... Plus the heavy duty garbage bags one guy holds the bag at floor level the other shovels or push brooms into the bags. In Florida theres a Ganster Bag that is made of heavy duty material. It's made to place building material it for pickup by trash removal. Place at least two of these below second floor windows. Drop stuff into the bags, once they are filled. drag them to the curb with a vehicle.
Pay the hired help incentives to get it done in 30 minutes. Money talks BS walks. Plus pizza will be available once the work is completed. Have the roll off dumpster ready to walk the stuff into as it taken to the curb.
The Constable needs to keep the deadbeats out of your hired helps work space. And your work space.
The goal is to have enough hired help to clear the place out.
There is no giving the deadbeats one more minute to clean out and move from the house.
Have wide flat shovel, large heavy duty garbage bags, possible ganster bags, wheel barrows, brooms, plastic and canvas gloves. 50 gallon garbage cans with wheels and a heavy duty bag in the can. Toss stuff in can or bag, fill, toss out the window, move on and repeat.
Evicting a Hoarder (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2018 1:17 PM
Hire a bunch of laborers, bring big trash cans on wheels, give each a trash can and have them fill it and dump it on the lawn. Use that 30 min to move stuff out of the house and place on lawn. While doing that, the tenant can go through their stuff. As long as it's out of the house, the tenant is considered out and stuff removed (I assume). After the 30 min, give tenant rest of day to go through their stuff. Hopefully neighbors will scavenge other pieces. Come back next day with labor and dumpster. Throw stuff away.
I bet that would get you within the 30 min timeline. Also don't forget to check the attic if tenant has access. --108.69.xxx.xxx
Evicting a Hoarder (by melinda [MD]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2018 1:19 PM
Agree with Ken. Contact the person who does the evictions and see what can be worked out. Here we have 1 hour and 15 minutes. We have never run out of time. Have lots of help and concentrate on moving out stuff that sheriff says needs to be put at the curb. Around here stuff such as mattresses are not put on the curb. good luck! --24.233.xxx.xx
Evicting a Hoarder (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2018 2:34 PM
In the past, with all other non-hoarder evictions, 30 minutes was always enough time to move worthless junk to the curb. The 30 minute time window is dictated by the Constable because he has other evictions scheduled for that day. His job is to make sure the tenants understand what is happening and that they are required to leave now. If the tenants refuse to leave, he will arrest them and take them to jail.
On Thursday, I will do a drive-by and see if there is a ton of junk still in the front yard and if the two non-running vehicles are still in the driveway.
30 days after they moved in one year ago, they called me and said there was no heat in the house. I went over and noticed they had junk stacked on top of the floor registers. This is when I first realized I had rented to a hoarders. --68.63.xxx.xxx
Evicting a Hoarder (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2018 4:24 PM
Under normal circumstances, how could you move a whole house worth of belongings in a 1/2 hour? This isn't extreme home makeover. I'd call a few constables to see their perspective on this. Constables here have a tendency to make things up from time to time. --50.32.xxx.xxx
Evicting a Hoarder (by David [MI]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2018 4:48 PM
So can someone explain why there is a 30-60 min limit to getting an evicted tenants stuff out? Or why constable/sheriff even cares? --50.4.xxx.x
Evicting a Hoarder (by del [MD]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2018 6:57 PM
I had to clean out a packed hoarder house in a tony, soy latte sipping, hostile HOA area. A dumpster would have inspired a protest march. I rented the biggest Uhaul made and backed it up to the front door. it took two motivated workers eight hours to get all the junk into the Uhaul. Next morning, we drove the truck to the landfill.
you will need:
HEAVY trash bags
zip ties to secure bags
handcart for appliances
heavy hammer to bust up particleboard furniture.
lots of motivation
The hoarder had already left so the constable just told us to "get r done"
Good Luck --157.204.x.x
Evicting a Hoarder (by don [PA]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2018 6:58 PM
Makes no sense. Usually, the law requires that the LL protect and store the tenant's junk, not that he toss it out to the street as rapidly as possible. Is the OP misinterpreting the law? Maybe it gives him 30 minutes to change the locks while the officers stand by? That is more like how it is in Philly; they want the locks changed quickly so that they can move on. --73.141.xxx.xxx
Evicting a Hoarder (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2018 8:50 PM
Is it possible to work w the hoarders the day before and get a dumpster in advance?
I got rid of a tenant w stuff up to your knee. We shoveled things in garbage bags w snow shovels. One person held the bag open. Took two of us the better parts of 2 days to clean up a 2fl apt. Under everything was dog po. --66.87.xxx.xx
Evicting a Hoarder (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Oct 31, 2018 2:03 AM
Our Constable is a reasonable person,...I am sure he and I can work something out on the 30 minute time frame. He will expect me to change the locks and he will post the Writ on the front door.
I appreciate the moving tips you all have provided. Here it is customary to move stuff to the curb,..we are not required to store anything. Once it is on the curb, anyone can legally take it.
Evicting a Hoarder (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Oct 31, 2018 7:15 AM
I still don't understand the 30 minutes. what does the constable care if you get it out in 30 minutes or take a week? Move it to the curb today, tomorrow, next Tuesday? --72.70.xxx.x
Evicting a Hoarder (by cjl [NY]) Posted on: Oct 31, 2018 8:49 AM
I'm a bit confused (but I guess not surprised) by the 30 minutes. I "understand" that it's the Constable making that rule but is it "legal'?
In NY we show up with a (Marshal, Sheriff, etc) and the tenants are advised (by them) to gather their NEEDED belongings RIGHT NOW (ie medicine, pillow, clothes for a few days) not their entire belongings and leave. We then go in and change the locks.
They then have 1 DAY at an agreed upon time/day (between tenant and landlord) to get the rest of their stuff out (within the next 30 days I believe). If they do not do that - it's the landlords.
I've only had one that I had to do that with and they were under the impression that they could "come and go as they pleased to move their stuff out for the 30 days". They found out quite quickly they were not. --209.217.xxx.xx
Evicting a Hoarder (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Oct 31, 2018 11:38 AM
Allow me to try to clarify things here. In past evictions, the constable has told me IF your tenant is still living there, you will appreciate having me there to get your tenant out. If the tenant has already gone, which is most of the time, then it is optional as to whether I (Constable) needs to be there or not.
I called the courthouse this morning and my Writ has been signed and sent to the Constable's office (same bldg.).
I will do a drive-by prior to going to the courthouse.
Evicting a Hoarder (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Nov 1, 2018 3:08 AM
I ran into the Constable while at the courthouse getting my Writ. He has already had a face to face talk with my tenants and has told them what is going to happen at 9:30a.m. Friday morning.
They told the Constable they (and their junk) would be out sometime today. Maybe this won't be as bad as I thought it would be. --68.63.xxx.xxx
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