Clemson / Weight limit

Have y'all seen the report of the floor caving in? Looks like there were a LOT of people in one room - no doubt jumping up & down in unison to the beat of the music.

Makes me wonder about load limits. Does anyone address this in your lease? Would it make a difference, anyway? Like can you hold the tenant responsible / collect for damages / prove they exceeded the limit? Would a landlord be held responsible if load limits are NOT addressed?

Thankfully, this collapse was on a first floor and nobody was killed. Just imagine if it were a second floor apartment and fell down onto others, or took out the first floor too.

--68.10.xxx.x

Clemson / Weight limit (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 22, 2018 4:39 AM
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Insurance. --50.107.xxx.xxx

Clemson / Weight limit (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Oct 22, 2018 4:42 AM
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That was beyond what the average landlord policy would pay for,way too many people for the normal policy,they will be going after anything the owner has beyond the policy --72.231.xxx.xxx

Clemson / Weight limit (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 22, 2018 4:47 AM
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If it's newer, it may go beyond the owners to the builders and inspectors.

Even still, how could the owner be responsible for the collapse when clearly there was a party going on?

Weight limits in a lease isn't going to go over very well with the PC crowd. --50.107.xxx.xxx

Clemson / Weight limit (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 22, 2018 4:52 AM
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Here's a question. Was this within city limits that has annual or lease renewal rental inspections that are done by the city? If so what recourse would the landlord have going that route? I know I'd certainly push it. --50.107.xxx.xxx

Clemson / Weight limit (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Oct 22, 2018 5:02 AM
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I understand it was a club house of some type. In NY we have occupancy limits. The gathering place is allowed only so many people (usually posted on the wall) for fire regulations. Not sure about SC having this, but if they do was it exceeded.

As for putting it in my lease, I do have no water filled furniture (not only water but weight). I have 1850 built houses. Heavy furniture is different than "jumping to the beat". And I don't have a clubhouse. --108.4.xxx.xx

Clemson / Weight limit (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Oct 22, 2018 6:07 AM
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Random trivia: soldiers never march across a bridge, because all the vibrations in synchronization would destroy the bridge. Instead, they walk across it like normal people, because that distributes the vibration into a more manageable load. --166.137.xxx.xx

Clemson / Weight limit (by Mike SWMO [MO]) Posted on: Oct 22, 2018 6:17 AM
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So sometimes soldiers are normal people and sometimes they are not. (they just follow like sheep).

Sure glad I got out so I can be “NORMAL”. I don’t think getting out worked.

I can talk about them. I have earned the right. I have a little over 32 yrs in military

--173.187.xxx.xx

Clemson / Weight limit (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Oct 22, 2018 6:25 AM
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I believe the report from some structural engineers are going to be interesting. Ballrooms in hotels are generally built with radically more support than clubhouses are. Similarly, dance clubs are usually built differently. Think concrete floors, ground level, etc. most clubhouses are built more to residential standards.

I’m thinking they likely had over the occupancy limit and I wonder it they had lumber or steel supports?

Thankfully, nothing more than broken bones. --131.151.xxx.xxx

Clemson / Weight limit (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Oct 22, 2018 6:31 AM
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Grandfathers were WWII and Korea. Army, Air Force, and Air Force. Dad was Navy. Cousins are Marines. You know what I'm saying. ;)

--96.46.xxx.xx

Clemson / Weight limit (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Oct 22, 2018 10:39 AM
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Who ever manages the place should have known how many were safe to be there and limited the access. Somebody is in trouble. My town gives me a certificate that says how many people can live there and how many can be there at the same time as visitors. I would not likely know if it was overloaded unless someone complained. --73.178.xxx.xx

Clemson / Weight limit (by Opinionated [NC]) Posted on: Oct 22, 2018 5:29 PM
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People jumping is a dynamic load. Engineers know that static and dynamic loads affect structures very differently. The downward force of a dynamic load can be many times that of a static load of the same weight. --66.226.xx.xx

Clemson / Weight limit (by fred [CA]) Posted on: Oct 22, 2018 6:41 PM
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The real problem: Clemson students are obese. Girls too. --99.59.x.xxx

Clemson / Weight limit (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Oct 23, 2018 5:12 PM
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Does anybody address weight limit in your lease, or think it would matter? --68.10.xxx.x

Clemson / Weight limit (by Ed [PA]) Posted on: Oct 23, 2018 6:10 PM
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I don't believe the collapse could have been prevented by a weight limit clause in the lease. Thirty years ago I was a student and we had a party with way too many people in the apartment. Dance music playing everyone jumping together cracked the plaster ceiling in apartment below.

Landlord could not know that students were throwing a party with too many people dancing/jumping together so long as there was no knowledge of pre-existing structural damage the landlord could not be held negligent. That is what insurance is for.

And I like Fred's root cause analysis also --100.6.xx.xxx

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