Rural Critters: Who Pays
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Rural Critters: Who Pays (by Judi [CA]) Sep 24, 2018 10:21 PM
       Rural Critters: Who Pays (by OPM [OR]) Sep 24, 2018 10:39 PM
       Rural Critters: Who Pays (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Sep 24, 2018 11:05 PM
       Rural Critters: Who Pays (by Robert J [CA]) Sep 24, 2018 11:09 PM
       Rural Critters: Who Pays (by Judi [CA]) Sep 24, 2018 11:22 PM
       Rural Critters: Who Pays (by plenty [MO]) Sep 25, 2018 12:41 AM
       Rural Critters: Who Pays (by Vee [OH]) Sep 25, 2018 5:12 AM
       Rural Critters: Who Pays (by LindaJ [NY]) Sep 25, 2018 5:14 AM
       Rural Critters: Who Pays (by RathdrumGal [ID]) Sep 25, 2018 5:20 AM
       Rural Critters: Who Pays (by fred [CA]) Sep 25, 2018 6:19 AM
       Rural Critters: Who Pays (by Deanna [TX]) Sep 25, 2018 6:26 AM
       Rural Critters: Who Pays (by AllyM [NJ]) Sep 25, 2018 7:17 AM
       Rural Critters: Who Pays (by Robin [WI]) Sep 25, 2018 8:41 AM
       Rural Critters: Who Pays (by Judi [CA]) Sep 25, 2018 12:38 PM
       Rural Critters: Who Pays (by GKARL [PA]) Sep 26, 2018 12:59 AM


Rural Critters: Who Pays (by Judi [CA]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2018 10:21 PM
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State specific to CA: Rural 300 acre property with several manufactured homes and lots and lots of wildlife. Tenants are having problems with rodents. Should this be the landlord's or tenant's responsibility? Thanks all!

--71.94.xx.xxx




Rural Critters: Who Pays (by OPM [OR]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2018 10:39 PM
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Judi.. good post.. and Hi from Oregon.. glad to hear you got the shipment of extra indigenous critters.

Most likely there is a Ca. code on pest indigenous or not..

typically the LL is resposable to keep the home safe and deal with pests, ants, spiders, etc. regardless of if they are attracted by the tenants actions or not..

However you may have a cause of action, if the tenants are causing the pests to be attracted, say pet food set out..

Good time to learn the CA. codes --162.247.xx.xx




Rural Critters: Who Pays (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2018 11:05 PM
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Judi,

What does your lease say? This is a common situation in almost every home. Even in the middle of town we have mice.

My lease is clear: pest control (insects, rodents, birds, bats, wild animals) is part of everyday housekeeping and as such the responsibility of the resident.

Crazi Cali might have a different view.

BRAD --68.50.xxx.xxx




Rural Critters: Who Pays (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2018 11:09 PM
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You should make the home critter free. I had one tenant film a set of raccoons breaking into the attic of a home of mine. Tenants weren't allow to shoot them or trap them. All they could do is call me and animal control. I took a mean dog who loves to bark. Put his head in the attic and out the holes ran the raccoons... --47.156.xx.xx




Rural Critters: Who Pays (by Judi [CA]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2018 11:22 PM
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Hi hi OPM! Thank you for the shipment. We not only received the extra-indigenous rodents, but the cute possum family of 6(+?) at no extra charge! They learned to use the cat door to help themselves to an all-u-can-eat buffet of crunchies with a fresh H2O chaser! We've trapped and relocated the possums (for now) and our outstanding cat brings home some kind of prize every day. The heavy rains 2 winters ago followed by return of drought to parched California has the critters going crazy. --71.94.xx.xxx




Rural Critters: Who Pays (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2018 12:41 AM
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Cleaver Judi... they seem rather smart. Can they read? Post a sign "no wildlife beyond this point"

Suppose if you and the tenants work together it could be manageable. But every year or season it will be a reoccurring issue. Stop calling it a problem. It's just part of living on the edge or in the middle of the woods.

I found the sound things that plug in the wall very helpful in my mobile homes to keep away the field mice...yes field mice sounds different than rats.

Go to the Farm and Home or Lowes and look for those sound plug ins for mice. They aee working for me.

--99.203.xx.xxx




Rural Critters: Who Pays (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2018 5:12 AM
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All in the food chain - a complaint to Mother Nature is in order, while awaiting the answer the tenant would be the one to keep a clean house to avoid attraction to these critters, along these lines I often ask myself - Why Didn't Noah swat those 2 mosquitoes? --76.188.xxx.xx




Rural Critters: Who Pays (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2018 5:14 AM
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Mice, squirrels and other critters in a rural area are a fact of life. At my rural properties, I share the responsibility with the tenants. I need to keep the trees trimmed back, the fields mowed, the brush cut, and the holes in the building sealed. They need to keep the inside clean, trap and dispose of any that do get in and let me know where they are found to help me find the entry.

Are you renting the homes themselves, or renting the lot that they have their home on. If it is the own the unit, you could push the sealing up to them.

Here, even a clean house can have mice, they search for shelter in a warm place in the winter, a dry place in the summer. So although everyone likes to blame the tenant for inviting them in, it isn't always that way. We will find piles of seeds in garage at times. They just forage and hide them there. --108.44.xx.xx




Rural Critters: Who Pays (by RathdrumGal [ID]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2018 5:20 AM
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We used to keep an RV parked in a wooded campsite in western Washington. We used it on weekends. It would get invaded by rodents each winter. I second the use of the plug-in ultrasonic sound emitters to repel rodents. Also, Bounce fabric softener sheets placed in kitchen drawers help with repelling mice. We scattered mice bait blocks under the RV. Outside cats were also helpful in reducing the rodent populations. --64.89.xxx.xxx




Rural Critters: Who Pays (by fred [CA]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2018 6:19 AM
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I have a cockroach story.

I rented a house with a clean, no pest history to a seemingly nice couple. After 6 weeks they informed me that regrettably they had to break the lease because the wife's dad died and left her a house. Fine.

They moved out and left a million roaches. Not half a million, but a million.

I called a pest control company, they treated the house 3 times in 10 days. Problem persisted.

I then started fumigating myself, every day for 20 days...before I saw a drastic reduction in the roach population. Then finally, after 20 more days, they were all gone.

I deducted the cost of eradicating the bugs from the S.D.

The tenants took me to small claims. To my surprise, the judge sided with them, even though my contract said that household pests were their responsibility.

CA has a proposition on Nov ballots, to turn the whole state into a rent controlled state. If passed, the state will create 539 new boards to deal with Prop 10 violators. History tells us that those who suffer at the end the most are exactly the same folks whom the State pretend to protect.

NO ON 10!

--99.59.x.xxx




Rural Critters: Who Pays (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2018 6:26 AM
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How much of the 300 acres are kept short, like a lawn? :)

Wildlife live in the wild. So if you have a house near tall grass-- whether it's a city lot, a house on the outskirts of town, or a house next to a field-- you're going to have more mice, rats, scorpions, snakes, and other fun stuff, than you would if you were in the middle of Beverly Hills.

So, it's super-important to keep the grass as short as possible for as far as possible, to keep the wildlife over in their part of the 300 acres, and not in your part.

Who's responsible for lawn care for this development?

But the tenant also has responsibility to keep food put away, keep the trash taken out, possibly store things like rice/flour/sugar/beans in glass containers, and so on. Mouse traps baited with peanut butter are a good idea. An outside poison bait feeder station is helpful. The plug-in sonic rodent-repellents are good. Making sure there's no cracks to let the outside in are good.

It's a team effort that requires both of y'all. But anyone who lives in the middle of The Great Outdoors should not be surprised that other things live in The Great Outdoors as well... and sometimes, The Great Outdoors finds its way inside. --96.46.xxx.xx




Rural Critters: Who Pays (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2018 7:17 AM
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Rathdrum, mouse bait will kill the cats too when they eat the dying, therefore easier to catch, mice. If a dog consumes a mouse it will die too. Terminix has a new metal trap that can be catch and release or have a sticky board put in it. The doors open to let the mouse in but not out. I didn't purchase it because I would have to put my hand too close to stuck mice to get the sticky board out. Also having mice trapped in something will cause way too much pee and poo in there and I don't want to clean that. But it might help you if you don't mind the issues I just mentioned. --73.178.xxx.xx




Rural Critters: Who Pays (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2018 8:41 AM
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My lease states that the tenant is responsible for pest control, but you may need to help anyway to protect your property. We've had woodchucks chew through our wood fence and take down bushes, rats chew through baseboard, squirrels chew through wiring, and don't even get me started on the cockroach damage! At the very least, point your tenants toward resources (they often don't know how to handle the issues) and follow up to make sure the problem is solved. --204.210.xxx.xxx




Rural Critters: Who Pays (by Judi [CA]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2018 12:38 PM
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Thank you all for your replies, very much appreciated. I love this board and all the sharp minds that contribute to it. My husband has been the property/facilities manager of this acreage for 30 years and has always taken care of these kinds of issues himself. He recently semi-retired, and now the property owner (who prefers not to deal hands-on with the rentals) is reviewing leases and trying to find his way. --71.94.xx.xxx




Rural Critters: Who Pays (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Sep 26, 2018 12:59 AM
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I had a mice infestation in my personal residence a couple years ago. I found the glue boards far more effective than traps. After battling with them using traps, a few days of glue boards got them all. --209.122.xx.xxx





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