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on Bottom (by Smokowna [MD]) Sep 24, 2018 6:26 PM
       on Bottom (by RB [MI]) Sep 24, 2018 6:42 PM
       on Bottom (by AllyM [NJ]) Sep 24, 2018 6:59 PM
       on Bottom (by AllyM [NJ]) Sep 24, 2018 7:02 PM
       on Bottom (by Ken [NY]) Sep 24, 2018 7:15 PM
       on Bottom (by Richard [MI]) Sep 24, 2018 9:46 PM
       on Bottom (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Sep 24, 2018 11:15 PM
       on Bottom (by Mickie [OH]) Sep 25, 2018 4:01 AM
       on Bottom (by Smokowna [MD]) Sep 25, 2018 4:36 AM
       on Bottom (by LindaJ [NY]) Sep 25, 2018 5:23 AM
       on Bottom (by bet [MA]) Sep 25, 2018 6:22 AM
       on Bottom (by AllyM [NJ]) Sep 25, 2018 6:56 AM
       on Bottom (by Tom [FL]) Sep 25, 2018 9:04 AM
       on Bottom (by Robin [WI]) Sep 25, 2018 10:20 AM
       on Bottom (by Smokowna [MD]) Sep 26, 2018 4:56 AM


on Bottom (by Smokowna [MD]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2018 6:26 PM
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I buy shacks when they are in rough shape. There have been many which I never walked in prior to purchase.

As you know teni put a 100,000 miles on a rental each year. For whatever reasons, I feel that my shacks went from bad to great and now have slipped to bad again.

My plan is to work on my workshop and storage space while simultaneously mending the shacks as needed. I believe that it would be best if I had my trucks, mowers, tools, etc in order before tackling any heavy remodeling.

I'm curious as to what you may have done when faced with similar circumstances. Part of my decision rests on the fact that I need to be ready for spring and I'm not.

Thanks for your sage advice

--108.51.xxx.xxx




on Bottom (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2018 6:42 PM
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De clutter. --184.53.x.xxx




on Bottom (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2018 6:59 PM
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It's a cycle I went through with buildings over the past 25 years. With long term tenants it just happens to each unit and when they leave it's degraded.

I fixed up two four units and then realized I had better sell them at age 65 and felt I was going to "get hurt". So I sold them just in time since I was found to have cancer and needed big surgery.

If you are older like me maybe it's time to spruce them up one more time and sell as you get them into the right condition. It's hard to fix with tenants in there though so unless you have an empty, maybe focus on the outsides. --73.178.xxx.xx




on Bottom (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2018 7:02 PM
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P.S. Your work shop and storage space are not making you any money so I would focus on the source on the money making rentals. --73.178.xxx.xx




on Bottom (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2018 7:15 PM
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I buy class c units when the economy is down and I sell them when the economy is good.The economy is real good and beginners are willing to pay too much for houses right now.I say consider selling them while the selling is good --72.231.xxx.xxx




on Bottom (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2018 9:46 PM
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I'm with Ken on this. I have some trailers on private land (my land. I buy them real cheap , fix, rent until prices go up then sell the trailer and lease the underlying land. Works ok for me.

Also have other investments.

The thing is: know when to sell and when to buy and avoid bad areas. --23.121.xx.xxx




on Bottom (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2018 11:15 PM
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Smok,

Buy low sell high. I sold a few this year, all for prices I never dreamed possible. Homes in my area are still selling strong.

I HATE paying the taxes on the sale but I got enough extra (more than I expected) to help the tax hurt.

My procrastination habit is to clean up before working. "How can I possibly call a contractor when that pile on my desk has been sitting there for a month." When I find myself sweeping out the garage I realize I am avoiding doing what really needs to be done.

Desk or shop cleaning is for those cold snowy nights with a cup of hot chocolate and the dog at your feet." (who left that mess in the shop anyway?!)

In sales it was the "second cup of coffee" that keeps commissions low.

MY focus right now is to button up and freshen up my exteriors for winter. Get the trim painted, etc so it looks good when a res decided to leave in December when I cannot paint.

I'm pushing some roof work and a septic system before weather sets in. My goal is to have these done by Halloween.

BRAD --68.50.xxx.xxx




on Bottom (by Mickie [OH]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2018 4:01 AM
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I have a large house I'm getting ready to put on the market. I'm either going to 1031 or pay the taxes in full and pay off another property. If I 1031 I'm looking at a small MHP. The only problem with doing a 1031 is I'll be purchasing when the prices are higher. It's a tough decision. --174.232.xxx.xxx




on Bottom (by Smokowna [MD]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2018 4:36 AM
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yes, Selling is hard to contemplate. I always know when to buy and have never known when to sell.

Robert in California, His views on selling are very clear and make me think that selling should happen in the next up cycle, not this one.

--108.51.xxx.xxx




on Bottom (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2018 5:23 AM
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You aren't ready for spring, heck, I am not ready for fall or winter! --108.44.xx.xx




on Bottom (by bet [MA]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2018 6:22 AM
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Maybe hire cheap talented labor if there is such a thing. No way would we got all done this year if we didn't hire out as much as we did. We hired some crooks and some good people. Be Careful of the crooks. --108.20.xxx.xxx




on Bottom (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2018 6:56 AM
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Prices may be artificially high because of the grants being given to first time home buyers. I hope this is a better system than just letting them get 200 K mortgages like Pelosi and Reid did back in 2006 which caused the crash when it got cold due to Solar Minimum. Well, it's Solar Minimum again and some of these grant recipients are not going to be able to pay the heat and the mortgage again but at least they are not prevented from selling like the last time, for five years. So with the little moderate or bad homes rising in value due to having more grant buyers, the better homes are going up too, just like the last time. I hope we can come out of this without another crash. The key this time is that the economy is better and people will have their jobs. The last time, Pelosi raised the minimum wage three times and people got fired. Business can't cope with that because all employees have to get a raise up the scale or there is mutiny, so they fire whoever is expendable and those people lost their homes also. Pray for the midterm to keep things the way they are or we are in for a bad economy again. --73.178.xxx.xx




on Bottom (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2018 9:04 AM
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Smok of MD, The units that are in need of work should be first priority. In the northern states winter is fast approaching and the ice back ups and winter issues can cause problems.

YES teni's can be harsh on a unit AND create work for LL's. Using Steel and Concrete can be damaged by some teni's

At this point focus on the exterior concerns peeling paint, any roof issues, and any water issues. Go to what you feel is the worst unit and check it out make a "Punch list" of work to be done and do the worst priorities first on the units. Any Safety issues? Damaged or rotted wood? Missing shingles? Peeling paint? You may call in an extra crew to help get the units ready before snow flies.

Your equipment can wait a few months and once you are done with the exterior and snow flies then equipment repairs and maintenance can be completed in a warm garage.

NOW may be the time for you to consider updates on a few units, painting the interior and exterior and do any deferred maintenance. THEN put the units on the market.

Focus on your priority list and each item stating with the worst issues will get done. If you look at the entire picture it can be overwhelming. You will get it ALL done!!! --99.56.xx.xx




on Bottom (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2018 10:20 AM
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A little time spent organizing and preparing will pay huge dividends in time that you DON'T spend hunting for what you need.

That said, make sure the prep tasks don't consume your work time. As my wise old dad told me, "Work will expand to fill the amount of time allotted to it." --204.210.xxx.xxx




on Bottom (by Smokowna [MD]) Posted on: Sep 26, 2018 4:56 AM
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Thank you all,

work will expand..... Interesting. I need to ponder that for a bit.

For now the focus will be cleaning, painting and all things easy. No remodeling.

I want to continue working on the workshop and go through supplies. Spring cleaning needs to happen early so that I can address some bigger projects when the weather clears. --108.51.xxx.xxx





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