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Easier to get a loan (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Sep 14, 2018 9:01 AM
       Easier to get a loan (by GKARL [PA]) Sep 14, 2018 9:14 AM
       Easier to get a loan (by NE [PA]) Sep 14, 2018 9:23 AM
       Easier to get a loan (by S i d [MO]) Sep 14, 2018 10:47 AM
       Easier to get a loan (by Tom [FL]) Sep 14, 2018 12:29 PM
       Easier to get a loan (by Richard [MI]) Sep 14, 2018 1:37 PM
       Easier to get a loan (by #22 [MO]) Sep 14, 2018 1:39 PM
       Easier to get a loan (by Ken [NY]) Sep 14, 2018 2:15 PM
       Easier to get a loan (by GKARL [PA]) Sep 14, 2018 2:26 PM
       Easier to get a loan (by Ken [NY]) Sep 14, 2018 3:03 PM
       Easier to get a loan (by RentsDue [MA]) Sep 14, 2018 4:36 PM
       Easier to get a loan (by Vee [OH]) Sep 14, 2018 4:54 PM
       Easier to get a loan (by GKARL [PA]) Sep 14, 2018 5:14 PM
       Easier to get a loan (by bet [MA]) Sep 14, 2018 5:33 PM
       Easier to get a loan (by Laura [MD]) Sep 14, 2018 5:43 PM
       Easier to get a loan (by Barb [MO]) Sep 14, 2018 5:55 PM
       Easier to get a loan (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Sep 14, 2018 9:20 PM
       Easier to get a loan (by Deanna [TX]) Sep 15, 2018 7:22 AM
       Easier to get a loan (by Robert J [CA]) Sep 15, 2018 8:29 AM
       Easier to get a loan (by Robert J [CA]) Sep 15, 2018 8:29 AM
       Easier to get a loan (by Deanna [TX]) Sep 15, 2018 9:13 AM
       Easier to get a loan (by JB [OR]) Sep 15, 2018 10:33 AM
       Easier to get a loan (by Ken [NY]) Sep 15, 2018 11:20 AM
       Easier to get a loan (by J [FL]) Sep 15, 2018 11:36 AM
       Easier to get a loan (by cjo'h [CT]) Sep 15, 2018 2:04 PM
       Easier to get a loan (by Chris [CT]) Sep 17, 2018 12:57 PM
       Easier to get a loan (by Pmh [TX]) Sep 17, 2018 1:54 PM
       Easier to get a loan (by George [NJ]) Sep 21, 2018 5:14 AM


Easier to get a loan (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2018 9:01 AM
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FHA has lowered their criteria making it easier for folks with credit scores down into the 400s (Yikes!) to get a home loan.

This means fewer renters.

And for those who have been in this game for a while- more foreclosures coming soon.

The more you know...

BRAD

--68.50.xxx.xxx




Easier to get a loan (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2018 9:14 AM
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That's insane and yes, more foreclosures are coming. This is a desperation move as well to keep air in the bubble. I keep reading about an "everything bubble" that ultimately will burst with disastrous results. --209.122.xx.xxx




Easier to get a loan (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2018 9:23 AM
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Good. Time to start surfing the first time home buyer flip wave again. --174.201.xx.xxx




Easier to get a loan (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2018 10:47 AM
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I don't know anything about bubbles (except the tiny bubbles in my beer that make me happy and full of cheer!)...

But 400 credit scores? Wow!

Shortage of inventory? Possibly. Not much building going on in the "starter home" category in my town. Might be time to unload some of my lesser performing units at top dollar.

Crash? Pop? Maybe. Doesn't seem to be any speculation like we had last time, but then again who here saw the last one coming before it hit and it was too late?

I've been reducing debt and piling up cash lately. Ready for the next opportunity, whatever it may be! --173.23.xxx.xx




Easier to get a loan (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2018 12:29 PM
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Alrighty!!!! the 400 credit score buyer, NOW owner will be ok UNTIL theres a problem with making payments. DUE to their excellent money management skills ar 400 credit score...

...NOT

They will run from the house when they get into financial trouble. Just like they ran from the rental they owed money to as well.

Oh yeah! easy to get a loan and easy to run when they get into financial trouble.

Future foreclosure and the Flippers will have a field day with all the foreclosures!!! --99.56.xx.xx




Easier to get a loan (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2018 1:37 PM
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I agree. Time to unload every problem and marginal place asap. You'll be able to replace them or even buy them back for 40 cents or less on the dollar when the next downturn/ crash hits. --23.121.xx.xxx




Easier to get a loan (by #22 [MO]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2018 1:39 PM
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400s? Whats next the ninja loans? (No Income No Job No Assets)??????? --174.234.xxx.xx




Easier to get a loan (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2018 2:15 PM
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Fine with me,bring on the foreclosures --72.231.xxx.xxx




Easier to get a loan (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2018 2:26 PM
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Brad, I researched this and the only thing I saw was that the lowest score they would accept is 500. At that level, your downpayment and interest rates are more. Still, that's a pretty low score and most of us wouldn't accept a tenant with that low of a score. When this thing unravels, the burden will be shifted to taxpayers.

I think this is effectively a continuation of the bank bailout. The government's objective is to undergird the market for SFH's as was the case with FNMA and GNMA before they went bust. Their loan limit is pretty high at $ 600,000. There must remain a shadow inventory that must be worked off.

--209.122.xx.xxx




Easier to get a loan (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2018 3:03 PM
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GKARL,most people getting FHA loans also need seller concessions so the seller ends up paying the closing costs and they come up with very little money out of pocket,essentially the same amount as first,last and security so no wonder they walk away when it is convenient for them,they really don't have anything in it and no real commitment.I am in the market talking to people trying to sell there houses every day and I regularly talk to people who haven't paid a mortgage payment in 2 years and the bank hasn't even started the foreclosure yet,i talk to someone 5 years without paying a mortgage payment often enough to say there is still plenty of foreclosures coming --72.231.xxx.xxx




Easier to get a loan (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2018 4:36 PM
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Interesting. My best tenants are the always the ones that have good credit anyway. They just choose to rent a house that they can't afford to buy rather than buy a lesser home. If the market drops buying will look like a better option to them and they may leave. If 400 credit score buyers are among their home buying competition then they won't be leaving anytime soon. Win for me if the banks let 400 credit be ok. I can scoop up a foreclosure as a bonus when the dust clears. --71.10.xxx.xxx




Easier to get a loan (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2018 4:54 PM
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I been seeing the little smoke signals for awhile, get your liens in on these folks pronto so you can get paid in the deed settlement phase. And then be prepared to take some of these busted up shacks off the banks tax rolls. --76.188.xxx.xx




Easier to get a loan (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2018 5:14 PM
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Ken, I've encountered the same thing and know someone who was in his house not paying a single mortgage payment for at least eight years. There's a soft underbelly that no one is talking about. The government is basically backstopping the market. Effectively, this is shifting the banks' bad debt to the taxpayer. --172.56.xx.xx




Easier to get a loan (by bet [MA]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2018 5:33 PM
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As a RE agent I sold a woman a house in the last boom and then the crash, that did not qualify to rent from me. She lost it a few years later and is now back to being a tenant and still does not qualify for an apt and no one will rent to her. --108.20.xxx.xxx




Easier to get a loan (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2018 5:43 PM
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Thanks for the update, i was wondering what was happening to my prospective tenants. Te folks I normally rent to are buying - hum. --108.51.xxx.xxx




Easier to get a loan (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2018 5:55 PM
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Time to tell my daughter. She just paid off her student loans and is starting to look at homes. --131.151.xxx.xxx




Easier to get a loan (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2018 9:20 PM
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FYI This info came for an article posted yesterday based on a 2017 study of FHA loans by the national Assoc of Realtors.

Here's a link

thinkrealty.com/fha-loans-lower-credit-approvals/?utm_source=NewsBrief&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=SiteTraffic&utm_content=News&j=740905&sfmc_sub=42623154&l=15889_HTML&u=24907421&mid=7230230&jb=0

BRAD --68.50.xxx.xxx




Easier to get a loan (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2018 7:22 AM
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From Brad's article--

"FHA lending is leading the way toward more lenient credit standards according to the report. First-time buyers who made home purchases between January and March of 2018 had an average credit score of 672. In 2011, buyers who made purchases during the first quarter of that year had an average credit score of 701. The FHA is also permitting higher debt-to-income (DTI) ratios lately. The ratios include monthly household debts on credit cards, auto loans, and personal loans exceeding 50 percent. Five years ago, by comparison, only about three in every 25 FHA borrowers had DTI ratios that high.

"Other entities like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are not easing their underwriting standards, why is the FHA easing up? The reason may be at the center of many present housing discussions: housing affordability. Millions of “would-be” buyers have found themselves unable to become homeowners in the wake of the mid-2000s housing crash, according to a study from the Urban Institute (UI)’s Housing Finance Policy Center. In fact, those researchers estimated that 5.2 million mortgages are “missing” just between 2009 and 2014. Those mortgages would have been made if the lenders in question had not stuck to post-recession credit criteria.

"The FHA’s new leniency could be a move to lower the barrier on homeownership. This is especially true for new homeowners such as millennial and generation Z households, who were not old enough to make home purchases during the housing crisis."

The conclusion is oddly jarring against what precedes it. It's almost like they were looking for a warm, cuddly, "there's no way this can go wrong!" kind of way to wrap up the article. :)

Aren't Millennials and Generation Z households already (for the most part) swimming in student loan debt? (Hint: 62% of Millennials owe more in debt than they have in savings. [Not that that's a hard thing to do!] 24% have more in savings than they owe in debt. [Which is actually pretty impressive.])

I also find it interesting that they call it "post-recession lending criteria" rather than making reference to "the subprime mortgage crisis" that helped trigger that tightened lending criteria. --96.46.xxx.xx




Easier to get a loan (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2018 8:29 AM
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Each time the governments wisdom is to lower lending standards, there is a back lash. From 1990 through 1997 prices of single family home dropped 40%. This was due to variable interest rates that kept on climbing -- from 7% to 16%.

Then from 2007 to 2011, single family homes dropped 50% due to liar loans, interest only loans, stated loans, pay as you go loans and teaser rate loans.....

Look for in 2022 a swarm of foreclosures on the rise. --47.156.xx.xx




Easier to get a loan (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2018 8:29 AM
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Each time the governments wisdom is to lower lending standards, there is a back lash. From 1990 through 1997 prices of single family home dropped 40%. This was due to variable interest rates that kept on climbing -- from 7% to 16%.

Then from 2007 to 2011, single family homes dropped 50% due to liar loans, interest only loans, stated loans, pay as you go loans and teaser rate loans.....

Look for in 2022 a swarm of foreclosures on the rise. --47.156.xx.xx




Easier to get a loan (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2018 9:13 AM
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It was also interesting that they said "Millions of “would-be” buyers have found themselves unable to become homeowners in the wake of the mid-2000s housing crash..." when a housing crash was probably the easiest time to find an affordable house, if your finances were solid!

I remember the Community Reinvestment Act was in 1995. The repeal of Glass-Steagal was in 2000. The subprime mortgage crisis ran from about 2007-2010. So I don't know if foreclosures will start to accumulate quite as soon as 2022... but surely the people who are making these decisions were awake during the 90's and the 00's.

So if FHA is part of HUD-- surely Carson is smarter than that. I tried looking down the food chain to see who was in charge of the FHA, but it looks like the "Housing-FHA Comptroller" office is vacant, and stuff is being run by the deputy. --96.46.xxx.xx




Easier to get a loan (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2018 10:33 AM
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So, if they have credit scores in the 400 or 500 range basically the only thing they have proven is that they ignore their bills as they come in. Now we think it's a great idea to give these same people homes possibly with guaranteed debt likely into the hundreds of thousands of dollars? Sounds like a real recipe for another guaranteed disaster.

I have to agree with Gkarl. It will ultimately be the taxpayers who wind up on the hook...AGAIN! --24.20.xxx.xxx




Easier to get a loan (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2018 11:20 AM
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Funny thing is as they ease the credit standards it will just help push up the prices of the houses and it will ultimately only help us with sale prices and eventually more foreclosures --72.231.xxx.xxx




Easier to get a loan (by J [FL]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2018 11:36 AM
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Some "experts" are calling for a crash in 2020. Not RE specifically but a generalized crash. Not sure how much stock I put in that... --72.188.xxx.xxx




Easier to get a loan (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2018 2:04 PM
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Never put too much into Credit Scores just everyday Habits that tells the other part of the story ,like Paul Harvey used to talk about.............charlie................................................ --32.214.xxx.xx




Easier to get a loan (by Chris [CT]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2018 12:57 PM
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I'm not seeing it, mortgages at least on the properties I deal with are well underwritten.

I think some of the first time home buyer programs are a little lien on the down payment requirements. But the income and credit are all their. --24.187.xxx.xx




Easier to get a loan (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2018 1:54 PM
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The next crash will again be a buying opportunity so I look forward to it. --104.218.xxx.xx




Easier to get a loan (by George [NJ]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2018 5:14 AM
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I think there are younger folks who dont want to take the risk owning due to seeing there parents lose their homes. I've had young tenants who could've easily have bought and didn't want to, both parents of the couple lost homes. --71.53.xxx.xxx





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