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Horses as Service Animals (by Alan [CA]) Aug 16, 2018 10:22 AM
       Horses as Service Animals (by NE [PA]) Aug 16, 2018 10:52 AM
       Horses as Service Animals (by plenty [MO]) Aug 16, 2018 11:01 AM
       Horses as Service Animals (by Ken [NY]) Aug 16, 2018 11:06 AM
       Horses as Service Animals (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Aug 16, 2018 12:05 PM
       Horses as Service Animals (by AllyM [NJ]) Aug 16, 2018 12:09 PM
       Horses as Service Animals (by Sparky [PA]) Aug 16, 2018 12:27 PM
       Horses as Service Animals (by Wilma [PA]) Aug 16, 2018 12:56 PM
       Horses as Service Animals (by Tom [FL]) Aug 16, 2018 1:00 PM
       Horses as Service Animals (by plenty [MO]) Aug 16, 2018 1:07 PM
       Horses as Service Animals (by Busy [WI]) Aug 16, 2018 1:42 PM
       Horses as Service Animals (by cjo'h [CT]) Aug 16, 2018 2:56 PM
       Horses as Service Animals (by CJ [MO]) Aug 16, 2018 4:42 PM
       Horses as Service Animals (by Me [CA]) Aug 16, 2018 5:11 PM
       Horses as Service Animals (by Me [CA]) Aug 16, 2018 5:15 PM
       Horses as Service Animals (by John... [MI]) Aug 16, 2018 9:00 PM
       Horses as Service Animals (by John... [MI]) Aug 16, 2018 9:04 PM
       Horses as Service Animals (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Aug 16, 2018 9:42 PM
       Horses as Service Animals (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Aug 16, 2018 9:45 PM
       Horses as Service Animals (by cjo'h [CT]) Aug 17, 2018 12:38 AM
       Horses as Service Animals (by cjo'h [CT]) Aug 17, 2018 12:47 AM
       Horses as Service Animals (by hollis [MA]) Aug 17, 2018 3:40 AM
       Horses as Service Animals (by Vee [OH]) Aug 17, 2018 5:11 AM
       Horses as Service Animals (by Barb [MO]) Aug 17, 2018 5:21 AM
       Horses as Service Animals (by plenty [MO]) Aug 17, 2018 7:30 AM
       Horses as Service Animals (by plenty [MO]) Aug 17, 2018 7:35 AM
       Horses as Service Animals (by Pmh [TX]) Aug 17, 2018 2:37 PM
       Horses as Service Animals (by Sparky [PA]) Aug 17, 2018 3:07 PM
       Horses as Service Animals (by Pmh [TX]) Aug 17, 2018 4:28 PM
       Horses as Service Animals (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Aug 18, 2018 8:07 AM
       Horses as Service Animals (by mike [CA]) Aug 23, 2018 7:43 PM


Horses as Service Animals (by Alan [CA]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2018 10:22 AM
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Saw in today's news:

Come September 17, people will be able to carry miniature horses onboard Southwest flights as trained service animals, according to airline officials.

Oops...tenant applicants might pick up on this thread!

--73.158.xxx.xxx




Horses as Service Animals (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2018 10:52 AM
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It would take everything that I've got to not laugh in someone's face who came to view one of my units who has a service horse. I think we are breaking the tipping point of absurdity in this country sometimes. --174.201.xx.xx




Horses as Service Animals (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2018 11:01 AM
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Another reason to stay home. --99.203.xx.xxx




Horses as Service Animals (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2018 11:06 AM
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Absolutely ridiculous,so either fair housing gives me a hard time or the zoning officer gives me a hard time,take your pick --72.231.xxx.xxx




Horses as Service Animals (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2018 12:05 PM
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Thinking a service animal skunk would be next step in absurdity. Imagine a flight with a scared skunk? That would make the news. --108.69.xxx.xxx




Horses as Service Animals (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2018 12:09 PM
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Horses don't know how to use a litterbox. Buns on a plane. --73.178.xxx.xx




Horses as Service Animals (by Sparky [PA]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2018 12:27 PM
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The acceptance of miniature horses as service animals is an accommodation to people whose faith considers dogs to be unclean. --174.229.x.xxx




Horses as Service Animals (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2018 12:56 PM
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Another point is that equines generally.live much longer than dogs. But they don't usually do well as "only" animals. I wonder if the animal rights activists will insist on comfort animals for service animals... --2601:14b:c300:1...




Horses as Service Animals (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2018 1:00 PM
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Need to design depends for a miniature horses.

The wonderful aroma of a mini horse going to potty while on a plane.

OH BABY! Not enough perfume or smell good stuff to kill the odor.

The new barn yard aroma of the airlines... --99.56.xx.xx




Horses as Service Animals (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2018 1:07 PM
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It's actually written in their copy... lol.. --99.203.xx.xxx




Horses as Service Animals (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2018 1:42 PM
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Just saw on the news this week that several airlines have taken a stand against ESAs. Will be watching to see how that shakes out. --172.58.xx.xxx




Horses as Service Animals (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2018 2:56 PM
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Back on the farm,we didn't even have little horses,would attract too many curiosity seekers..............charlie...................................................couldn't get any work done........................ --32.214.xxx.xx




Horses as Service Animals (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2018 4:42 PM
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Do the guest responsible for the damange caused by their horse? What is the right of other guests? --97.91.xxx.xxx




Horses as Service Animals (by Me [CA]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2018 5:11 PM
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I take my service gold fish with me everywhere. ;) --47.149.xx.xxx




Horses as Service Animals (by Me [CA]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2018 5:15 PM
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https://www.mystatesman.com/travel/new-southwest-airlines-emotional-support-animal-policy-allows-only-dogs-and-cats-leashes-carriers/3hPSUyCeB9mk9IPTZx5Q3N/ --47.149.xx.xxx




Horses as Service Animals (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2018 9:00 PM
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So, people should be aware that Southwest is just following the law. And other airlines have been doing the same thing already. American Airlines' policy is very similar -- it disallows a bunch of "Service Animals" which as anything with hooves -- but then notes that trained miniature horses are an exception to that and ARE allowed.

It's funny that most of the news is hopping on the "horse as Service Animal" part of this -- because that is just the law and what every airline is doing. The ACTUAL news that relates more to us as landlords is that they also announced that they will limit Emotional Support Animals to ONLY dogs and cats and ONLY a maximum of one per person. And they must be in a carrier or on a leash the entire time (that was not required before). And they need a CURRENT letter from their doctor for the animal -- and have to present it on the day of travel. Again, those are all much stricter rules than before for ESAs.

I think it will be good for us in the long run. They follow a different law, but the more they put restrictions on ESAs, the more we can hopefully do it in the future.

- John...

--96.40.xx.xx




Horses as Service Animals (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2018 9:04 PM
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Also, note that the ADA also includes dogs and horses as Service Animals.

The FHAA is a bit unclear but tends to follow the ADA definition for Service Animals (but not ESAs).

In other words, if we really got an applicant with a real disability and a trained Service Horse, we'd likely have to take it...

- John...

--96.40.xx.xx




Horses as Service Animals (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2018 9:42 PM
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Just to know: the federal law allows service animals to be only DOGS and MINIATURE Horses.

My service porcupine will have to stay home.

BRAD --68.50.xxx.xxx




Horses as Service Animals (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2018 9:45 PM
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I believe the airlines have a responsibilty for impliied safety, including animals biting customers in the cabin.

BRAD --68.50.xxx.xxx




Horses as Service Animals (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2018 12:38 AM
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Wonder if they make a saddle so that you can ride it,wouldn't need stirrups.....................charlie..............................................easy to mount...............hey,giddy up olde chap,easy boy,easy now..........................oh oh........................................ --32.214.xxx.xx




Horses as Service Animals (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2018 12:47 AM
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Swallowing gold fish was big one time,did they have to be barbecued or what,can't see eating them still swimming.Could choke? Maybe barbecued? Yould need many,nights az well buy a can of tuna.......................................charlie........................................or...a can of............................................ --32.214.xxx.xx




Horses as Service Animals (by hollis [MA]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2018 3:40 AM
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Why only MINIATURE horses? Seems discriminatory to me. --66.30.xx.xxx




Horses as Service Animals (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2018 5:11 AM
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The airlines have always offered the travel option to the service horses however there have never been any yet that could be fastened securely for landing/takeoff or in distress weather, also they can not block fire escapes. The owner would have to prepared for containing horse exhaust, great media attention to nothing. --76.188.xxx.xx




Horses as Service Animals (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2018 5:21 AM
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The number of trained service miniature horses are minimal. I’m not worried about it. --64.251.xxx.xxx




Horses as Service Animals (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2018 7:30 AM
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that's right Hollis... Ponies are important too! --173.108.xx.xx




Horses as Service Animals (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2018 7:35 AM
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is this true:

Property managers/landlords are NOT required to make a reasonable accommodation under the Fair Housing Act for ESAs or Service Dogs in these cases:

Buildings with 4 or less units where the landlord occupies one of the units

Single family housing sold or rented without a real estate broker

Hotels and Motels are not considered dwellings under the FHA but are considered places of public accommodation under the Americans with Disabilities Act

Private Clubs --173.108.xx.xx




Horses as Service Animals (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2018 2:37 PM
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re SW : they will only alllow cats & dogs now. no horses. you must have been reading the onion or another spoof site... --104.218.xxx.xxx




Horses as Service Animals (by Sparky [PA]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2018 3:07 PM
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Southwest will allow miniature horses which are trained service animals beginning September 17, 2018. From Southwest's own website: https://www.southwest.com/html/customer-service/unique-travel-needs/customers-with-disabilities-pol.html --72.77.xx.xx




Horses as Service Animals (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2018 4:28 PM
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Yes you are correct. the final policy does allow. must be on leash..... --97.94.xxx.xx




Horses as Service Animals (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2018 8:07 AM
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This horse as service animal thing, someone sold congress a bill of goods. The law gives an impossibly low size for the miniature horse. Miniature horses are at least three times the weight given.

I'd have to check the law carefully to see if it is possible to reject a service horse that weighs three times the weight specified.

I've had horses all my life and I sure wouldn't trust my life to a guide horse for the blind. They don't have good spacial awareness and they have a very strong flight instinct.

You could probably train them to turn a light switch off and on. They could certainly pull a wheel chair, but a motorized wheel chair would be a lot less work. --174.216.x.xxx




Horses as Service Animals (by mike [CA]) Posted on: Aug 23, 2018 7:43 PM
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my attitude for someone claiming they need a horse or yappy dog is that i take their app, cash the check, decline based on some legit reason and buy a few beers with their money. i have friends and family that are true users of the animal's and they're all livid at the silly abusers of the programs intended for those whoa are legit --24.25.xxx.xxx





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