 Tenants as helpers? (by John [NY]) Jul 20, 2018 2:18 PM
 Tenants as helpers? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jul 20, 2018 3:05 PM
Tenants as helpers? (by DJ [VA]) Jul 20, 2018 5:10 PM
Tenants as helpers? (by Pat [VA]) Jul 20, 2018 5:16 PM
Tenants as helpers? (by Hoosier [IN]) Jul 20, 2018 6:07 PM
Tenants as helpers? (by AllyM [NJ]) Jul 20, 2018 8:11 PM
Tenants as helpers? (by don [PA]) Jul 20, 2018 9:30 PM
Tenants as helpers? (by CDM [CA]) Jul 20, 2018 9:48 PM
Tenants as helpers? (by cjo'h [CT]) Jul 20, 2018 10:53 PM
Tenants as helpers? (by cjo'h [CT]) Jul 20, 2018 11:13 PM
Tenants as helpers? (by LindaJ [NY]) Jul 21, 2018 9:11 AM
Tenants as helpers? (by John [NY]) Jul 21, 2018 1:05 PM
Tenants as helpers? (by Deanna [TX]) Jul 21, 2018 1:34 PM
Tenants as helpers? (by small potatoes [NY]) Jul 22, 2018 9:19 PM
Tenants as helpers? (by John [NY]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 2:18 PM
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I've had two separate tenants that I have used for years for part-time work, either helping serve evictions, or do work on properties to correct code violation complaints that I thought I could trust. They hear all my horror stories, and the problems I go through with tenants. One is a 10 year tenant, the other was about 3 years. Out of the blue the first one tried extorting money over a lead test in the apartment. The baby tested as 6 on the lead test at one year old. The baby lived in that place 6 months and another place of mine for 6 months. They moved out without notice and demanded money, or they would have the apartment tested. Since he refused to give up the keys, and owed rent, I evicted him before he followed through with his threat.
The second one would read all the tenant rights guides put out by the attorney general, and seemed to think that the apartment was worse than it was. Both have tried extorting money, free rent, or security deposits back this year. One just called to complain about their own apartment to codes, even made stuff up, and tried to complain I blocked off a third exit, as a means of egress. He fumed to me that the government housing put up two blocks away was getting all new kitchens, and completedly remodeled, and I didn't do anything. I told him to move there if he thought they could handle his needs better.
Don't these tenants have any loyalty, or do they try to take a few extra bucks if they think they can get it. In this case tenant expects either free rent, or free move on Social services dime I don't share with my tenants where I live for this reason too. They usually ask, and I don't say. I have seen good tenants go bad when its time to move, and they want to get the last month free without paying. --108.176.xxx.xxx |
Tenants as helpers? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 3:05 PM
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The main difference between a private sector rental housing provider and government owned rental complexes is anything government operates loses money. A private sector rental housing can not afford to operate a rental housing complex at a loss of one hundred thousand dollars per year. It is complete disconnect from reality where if tenants suddenly became homeowners they would soon find out the cost of replacing a roof, heating system, hot water heaters, structural repairs along plumbing and electrical repairs. The government owned rental units do not pay taxes along lower property taxes. People who operate the government owned units do not manage money well as this is other people money not their own. It always better to hire people outside of the rental complex where avoid tenants and friends. The only people who understand rental housing are those who own not fringe groups or the socialists. --147.194.xxx.xx |
Tenants as helpers? (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 5:10 PM
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You ask: Do tenants...
A) Have any loyalty, or B) Try to take extra $ if they can
Answer: B
Never mix up tenants for contractors. It never ends well, as you now see.
Best wishes --68.10.xxx.x |
Tenants as helpers? (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 5:16 PM
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We have tenants that keep losing jobs because "they get hurt on the job & then they get fired". So why in the world would I offer them some work so I could get myself into a pickle?
Even as naïve as I am, I can see that train wreck a mile away!
Am I tempted, as much stuff as I have that could be done? Yes, but real world experience says it is not worth the risk. --71.219.xx.xxx |
Tenants as helpers? (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 6:07 PM
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Keep tenants as tenants, and workers as workers. --99.92.xxx.xxx |
Tenants as helpers? (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 8:11 PM
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No. Like many other traditionally bad relationships eg. dogs and cats, you are a landlord and they may manage you and you them but it's not a friendship. You can think of other similar love hate relationships I'm sure. My mother when she tried to manage the buildings before I took over, had tenants fix things. They overcharged her and did a cheapo job. --73.178.xxx.xx |
Tenants as helpers? (by don [PA]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 9:30 PM
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yes, but never on the house they live in. If you do that then every time they are short on money, esp. rent money, something in the place will conveniently need fixing. --73.141.xxx.xxx |
Tenants as helpers? (by CDM [CA]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 9:48 PM
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We had a tenant who ran into financial trouble. We hired him to do painting around our property, and paid him separately from his payment of the rent. It worked out for him and for us. But I would never have confided in him about anything at all sensitive, like problems I was having with tenants or problems with any code issues related to the property. --24.130.xx.xx |
Tenants as helpers? (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 10:53 PM
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John,I think you've learned your lesson.............charlie......................................................sometimes it can be very expensive.......................................b --174.199.xx.xxx |
Tenants as helpers? (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 11:13 PM
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Some States allow you to collect the last months rent at the beginning of the lease term,perhaps that's a good idea the only thing getting that much money together could be an issue
.............charlie................................................... --174.199.xx.xxx |
Tenants as helpers? (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Jul 21, 2018 9:11 AM
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"they hear all my horror stories"... MM Nope, don't go there. It is one thing to pay tenants for work they might do for you, another to collect rent for the unit you provide for them, but don't get a friendship in there. Chatting about your life and tenants bring in a friendship of sorts for people. It is why you don't want to rent to friends or family. Sometimes you can make the tenant and employee situation work, but even then, it is probably best to be one or the other. But that is one of the lessons we tend to learn early on! --108.44.xx.xxx |
Tenants as helpers? (by John [NY]) Posted on: Jul 21, 2018 1:05 PM
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I guess tenants tend to be needy, and that could push them to try to take advantage of things to get a monetary benefit. --108.176.xxx.xxx |
Tenants as helpers? (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Jul 21, 2018 1:34 PM
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"Don't these tenants have any loyalty"?
Nope. :) I got used to the idea a long time ago that I'm much fonder of my workers than they are of me, no matter how profitable I am for them. Every handyguy has his own shelf life.
But I'd rather replace a tenant than replace a handyguy. I can lose tenants all day long-- no biggie; if they need to follow a job somewhere else, or move somewhere cheaper, or their family has grown and they need a bigger place and I don't have any available--- I can understand that. But to find someone who's reliable, competent, knowledgeable, and trustworthy--- that's a treasure right there! And I don't want to give him up for no reason.
So I keep my tenants in one box, and my handyguys in another box, and every time I've ever dabbled in combining the boxes, disaster strikes. The first time, it was a house fire, where I lost my second-best-house-at-the-time. The second time, he was there maybe two months before I handed him his notice. I don't really want to take that class a third time. :) --96.46.xxx.xx |
Tenants as helpers? (by small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Jul 22, 2018 9:19 PM
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I've offered work to tenants who are behind and 'pay' them so they catch up on rent. Mostly landscaping or cleaning an apt. Nothing on-going. It never ends well, but at least I can show in small claims or mediation that I tried to be helpful and they screwed themselves up. I'd be concerned if you had those tenants work for you for an extended length of time and you didn't pay workers comp. I'd be more worried about that then them calling code on on you.
The next extortion will be when they claim they got hurt on the 'job' working for you. --24.194.xx.xx |
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