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Tenant to worker clause (by Jen [OH]) Jul 13, 2018 8:26 AM
       Tenant to worker clause (by NE [PA]) Jul 13, 2018 8:33 AM
       Tenant to worker clause (by Vee [OH]) Jul 13, 2018 10:03 AM
       Tenant to worker clause (by Jen [OH]) Jul 13, 2018 10:07 AM
       Tenant to worker clause (by cjo'h [CT]) Jul 13, 2018 10:12 AM
       Tenant to worker clause (by phil [NY]) Jul 13, 2018 10:48 AM
       Tenant to worker clause (by Jen [OH]) Jul 13, 2018 10:56 AM
       Tenant to worker clause (by NE [PA]) Jul 13, 2018 11:03 AM
       Tenant to worker clause (by Jen [OH]) Jul 13, 2018 11:08 AM
       Tenant to worker clause (by Jen [OH]) Jul 13, 2018 11:08 AM
       Tenant to worker clause (by NE [PA]) Jul 13, 2018 11:16 AM
       Tenant to worker clause (by Jen [OH]) Jul 13, 2018 11:22 AM
       Tenant to worker clause (by NE [PA]) Jul 13, 2018 11:35 AM
       Tenant to worker clause (by AllyM [NJ]) Jul 13, 2018 12:24 PM
       Tenant to worker clause (by Nicole [PA]) Jul 13, 2018 12:37 PM
       Tenant to worker clause (by RentsDue [MA]) Jul 13, 2018 3:29 PM
       Tenant to worker clause (by LindaJ [NY]) Jul 13, 2018 3:34 PM
       Tenant to worker clause (by DJ [VA]) Jul 13, 2018 5:41 PM
       Tenant to worker clause (by Vee [OH]) Jul 14, 2018 4:44 PM
       Tenant to worker clause (by Jen [OH]) Jul 14, 2018 5:10 PM
       Tenant to worker clause (by Vee [OH]) Jul 14, 2018 5:16 PM
       Tenant to worker clause (by mike [CA]) Jul 20, 2018 9:33 AM
       Tenant to worker clause (by mike [CA]) Jul 20, 2018 9:41 AM


Tenant to worker clause (by Jen [OH]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2018 8:26 AM
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What Clause could I add into my lease that is going to be the strongest to prevent the tenant from giving difficulty to contractors while working? Is there an Essence anything I can put in the lease that would allow the ability to evict if tenants start to believe they should decide how things get repaired instead of the professional or handyman

--74.141.xx.xx




Tenant to worker clause (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2018 8:33 AM
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They may blab to contractors regardless. Leave the clause out and strictly tell you contractors that no discussion is to be had in front of or with the tenants. --50.107.xxx.xx




Tenant to worker clause (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2018 10:03 AM
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When they own the house they can decide what when and where to do repairs. --76.188.xxx.xx




Tenant to worker clause (by Jen [OH]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2018 10:07 AM
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I agree with both comments above 100%. That is the specific instructions to the contractor. We had one that was trying to be nice to the resident and as a result answered questions.

The problem that I have is because the resident is being so difficult with contractors, I would like something in the lease agreement to point out that this is not permitted. I’m really looking for something to be able to affect w The problem that I have is because the resident is being so difficult with contractors, I would like something in the lease agreement to point out that this is not permitted. I’m really looking for something to be able to Evict with in the lease.

Unfortunately being a jerk to a contractor and telling the contractor specifically what insurance he needs to carry to do the work etc. is not currently in my lease to aff unfortunately being a jerk to a contractor and telling the contractor specifically what insurance he needs to carry to do the work etc. is not currently in my lease to evict. --74.141.xx.xx




Tenant to worker clause (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2018 10:12 AM
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The owner or manager has the right to enter unit to do repairs at any reasonable hour without hinderance from anyone. Should cover any unreasonable person..........charlie................................................ --174.199.xx.xxx




Tenant to worker clause (by phil [NY]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2018 10:48 AM
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Unlikely a lease clause regulating the tenant's speech on the property they are renting toward people on the property would be enforceable. Plus unless you personally witness such violation in your lease the contractor would have to testify since he telling you want happen is Hearsay --73.197.xxx.xx




Tenant to worker clause (by Jen [OH]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2018 10:56 AM
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How about a written statement from the contractor --74.141.xx.xx




Tenant to worker clause (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2018 11:03 AM
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Jen, you're overthinking it. Tell the contractors that nothing gets discussed with the tenants and just ignore the tenants. --50.107.xxx.xx




Tenant to worker clause (by Jen [OH]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2018 11:08 AM
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Here is why I am giving it this time.

Resident complained while city did inspection then city required licensed insured contractor in a state that doesn’t license in that area.

City required it on that particular address and that was our instructions.

--74.141.xx.xx




Tenant to worker clause (by Jen [OH]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2018 11:08 AM
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Here is why I am giving it this time.

Resident complained while city did inspection then city required licensed insured contractor in a state that doesn’t license in that area.

City required it on that particular address and that was our instructions.

--74.141.xx.xx




Tenant to worker clause (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2018 11:16 AM
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I'd get rid of that tenant as soon as your able. They just complicated your business. --50.107.xxx.xx




Tenant to worker clause (by Jen [OH]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2018 11:22 AM
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Agreed. But over 1 year left on lease --74.141.xx.xx




Tenant to worker clause (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2018 11:35 AM
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There's ways. --50.107.xxx.xx




Tenant to worker clause (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2018 12:24 PM
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Here's what I told one Chatty Kathy. The contractor charges x dollars per hour. Any time taken up by conversation from you will be noted and you will be billed for that time. That was for heater repair people. Then she started with the landscapers and I started getting larger grass cutting bills. So I fired the landscapers. The current one thinks she's awful and they don't converse. She is surly, according to the handyman who also had to deal with her. --73.178.xxx.xx




Tenant to worker clause (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2018 12:37 PM
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I am ALWAYS present for an inspection. I would NEVER have a tenant meet the inspector ...it's a recipe for disaster.

I "hover" between tenant and inspector and tenants NEVER get to say anything to the inspector. I actually tell them to go to another room. --72.70.xxx.xx




Tenant to worker clause (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2018 3:29 PM
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I always let the contractor know that they should not discuss anything with the tenant unless the tenant is paying the bill. --174.199.x.xxx




Tenant to worker clause (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2018 3:34 PM
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If you have over a year on the lease, you just can't add a clause. Any changes to that lease have to be agreed to by both parties and there is no reason for the tenant to agree to add that.

How are you going to police this? As others said, just tell the contractor not to talk with the tenant (you are paying him) and be there for any inspections. I always deal with the contractors and inspections myself and don't let the tenant get involved. You own the property, you have to deal with getting it fixed, not the tenant.

This is why I like M2M. Just give a month notice, you don't have to have a lease violation. --108.44.xx.xxx




Tenant to worker clause (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Jul 13, 2018 5:41 PM
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Obviously, it is clearly necessary to instruct contractors - as many have said.

Also, I think I get what you are trying to do.

When the tenant bugs contractors, bad things happen: including, but not limited to contractor being slowed down, annoyed, charging more, quitting. It's hard enough to find someone decent to work. And, they might even do something different from how you wanted it, if they believe - or want to shut up - the tenant.

ALSO - and I think perhaps worse - the Tenant believes they are in charge and have power they do not really have, to make decisions/spend money they are not entitled to make/spend.( It can apply to more than just the contractor, too.)

Adding something to the lease may or may not have any legal teeth, but it can open up the opportunity to discuss the topic no later than at lease signing. Just having it in writing somewhere can make it seem more important/legitimate. As you emphasize it's importance, you can judge their reaction and possibly get rid of the non-compliant BEFORE they move in. Kind of the same as how we emphasize other things we deem important - like not abusing the sewer system, what cannot be flushed, etc.

I think cjo'h is close, but instead of just "manager", maybe "designated representative" or "anyone sent to the property on behalf of management". Just find wording you like. (take a little more thought than off the top of my head)You might also add something like, "Tenant and guests must treat management/designees with respect/polite behavior at all times" - or something like that. Perhaps"if work needs to be rescheduled due to tenants uncooperativeness, a fee of $$$ will be charged for rescheduling". Added to the next rent /due immediately - that sort of thing.

I know some folks here say they have a requirement for cooperation during the application process, so it seems reasonable to expect it during tenancy, too.

Of course, you can't add it to the current lease, but it's always good to make improvements for future ones. I also think a shorter term would be good - at least until they have proven themselves. Then, perhaps, you could renew them at a longer term if you believe it to be necessary.

Best wishes!

--68.10.xxx.x




Tenant to worker clause (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2018 4:44 PM
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I think if you send the contractor a basket of grape so he can nibble on them and when he comes up for air tell the tenant his health is more important than tenant bulloney. --76.188.xxx.xx




Tenant to worker clause (by Jen [OH]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2018 5:10 PM
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I see both ways on the length of the lease. There was actually much higher turnover when people thought they were only committing for one year. That’s not to say that there is never nonpayment and still an eviction. But it has shown to be significantly less I’m just deciding to move.

I appreciate the suggestions with the new release that will be made available to new people. I understand I can’t just go in there and change the current lease. However there must be a happy medium between being able to keep somebody and do a longer lease and still be able to evict if they caused difficulty with repairs.

Am I completely wrong on this one? --74.141.xx.xx




Tenant to worker clause (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2018 5:16 PM
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Prolly the best way is to bill tenant for contractor consulting - your contractor, they should let the repair person do the repairs and be out of the way, have them move their car 34 times a day so nothing accidentally bumps the car or boat or motorcycle or anything else. --76.188.xxx.xx




Tenant to worker clause (by mike [CA]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 9:33 AM
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again, one more great reason for month to month tenancies.

a lease is an ownership interest in your home. it's what the real estate lawyers call an "estate for years". why we grant these estates to strangers is perplexing to me. in calif. if they break the lease the law REQUIRES me to strive mightily to minimize the tenants losses. those of us who have sought back rents in the courts know the likelihood of collecting is VERY low. leases protect tenants.

over the years in have gotten WAY better at choosing tenants and these issues rarely arise but when they do all my contractors have the authority to tell a lippy tenant to STFU. one of my guys once told a tenant that when she was signing the checks she could call the shots and turned his back to her and continued his work. good man.

Vee [OH] i like the grapes idea.

and based on this thread i am adding a clause to my lease that if they are asked to move a vehicle off a property for trade related work and do not that we are not responsible for damage. i have that in my contracting business contracts --76.176.xxx.xxx




Tenant to worker clause (by mike [CA]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2018 9:41 AM
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Nicole [PA] raises a VERY important point. it is never wise to let anyone do your business for you. make it a point to have the tenant absent for ALL inspections of any kind. nothing good can ever come of it. if the inspector is looking at something in the rear of the home enter that rear door and limit their access. i know a landlord that takes his dogs to inspections stages them in areas he calls off limits like garages being used for living rooms. if the tenants EVER call in an inspector they get the door. my homes are all well maintained and the tenants are advised in clear terms that if they find ants and roaches and mice/rats...THEY need to clean up MY house

i have yard services and pool services and they are all told clearly that ANY THING the tenants ask for is at their expense and NO extras will be paid unless prior approved --76.176.xxx.xxx





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