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Stuck windows nightmare (by Jason [NH]) Jul 10, 2018 1:44 PM
       Stuck windows nightmare (by WMH [NC]) Jul 10, 2018 1:53 PM
       Stuck windows nightmare (by JB [OR]) Jul 10, 2018 1:54 PM
       Stuck windows nightmare (by Larry [MA]) Jul 10, 2018 1:54 PM
       Stuck windows nightmare (by Laura [MD]) Jul 10, 2018 2:20 PM
       Stuck windows nightmare (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Jul 10, 2018 3:18 PM
       Stuck windows nightmare (by plenty [MO]) Jul 10, 2018 3:31 PM
       Stuck windows nightmare (by MikeA [TX]) Jul 10, 2018 4:06 PM
       Stuck windows nightmare (by RR78 [VA]) Jul 10, 2018 4:34 PM
       Stuck windows nightmare (by DJ [VA]) Jul 10, 2018 4:36 PM
       Stuck windows nightmare (by Steve [MA]) Jul 10, 2018 5:18 PM
       Stuck windows nightmare (by Robert J [CA]) Jul 10, 2018 5:40 PM
       Stuck windows nightmare (by AllyM [NJ]) Jul 10, 2018 5:47 PM
       Stuck windows nightmare (by Vee [OH]) Jul 10, 2018 6:50 PM
       Stuck windows nightmare (by Britt [NC]) Jul 11, 2018 2:25 AM
       Stuck windows nightmare (by Andrew, Canada [ON]) Jul 11, 2018 4:16 AM
       Stuck windows nightmare (by LindaJ [NY]) Jul 11, 2018 5:14 AM
       Stuck windows nightmare (by Barb [MO]) Jul 11, 2018 5:18 AM
       Stuck windows nightmare (by Nellie [ME]) Jul 11, 2018 8:42 PM
       Stuck windows nightmare (by small potatoes [NY]) Jul 11, 2018 9:29 PM


Stuck windows nightmare (by Jason [NH]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2018 1:44 PM
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During an arctic blast last winter, one of our tenants sprayed the sills and channels around every (wooden) window in her apartment with expandable "great stuff" insulating foam in order to "cut down on draftiness."

You guessed it! Now that we are being hit by our first spell of really hot weather, she calls and suddenly informs us that none of her window sashes can be raised or lowered.

I just got back from evaluating this nightmare and trying to free them up with a butcher knife. While I was able to slice and cut out much of the ever expanding and bulbous stuff, I still can't raise the sashes in any of the windows.

A guy at Lowes said the best next step would be to contact the makers of "great stuff" to find out what, if any, kind of liquid might exist that would melt and loosen up the bond between this stuff and surfaces.

If you have any experience or ideas on how to solve this nerve wracking problem, please send them to me before I go nuts. MANY MANY thankyous

--173.48.xxx.xxx




Stuck windows nightmare (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2018 1:53 PM
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Heat Gun? --50.82.xxx.xx




Stuck windows nightmare (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2018 1:54 PM
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Smaller knife and a smarter tenant.

--50.45.xxx.xx




Stuck windows nightmare (by Larry [MA]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2018 1:54 PM
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Probably dynamite would do the trick! --173.48.xxx.xxx




Stuck windows nightmare (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2018 2:20 PM
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I would begin documenting all the things I have tried and then I would replace the windows at the tenant's expense. --108.51.xxx.xxx




Stuck windows nightmare (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2018 3:18 PM
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First of all I'd let your genius of a tenant live with it for this summer. But be sure to get the price of new windows and charge them for it.

--108.69.xxx.xxx




Stuck windows nightmare (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2018 3:31 PM
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I'd be preparing to replace windows and charge tenant! And yes go to court if she doesn't pay. This could be a fire hazard! It's a bigger problem than stuck windows this is a safety issue. Move her to another unit that you own so you know where tenant is to serve papers. Talk about damage! --99.203.xx.xxx




Stuck windows nightmare (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2018 4:06 PM
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Go to Amazon and search for: sash paint saw

These are great for wooden windows. Be sure to do both inside and outside. --50.26.xx.xxx




Stuck windows nightmare (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2018 4:34 PM
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That foam is going to creep in everywhere. Unless you get 100% out you will be fighting it down the road with changes in weather.

And only way to do that is to remove sashes.

I would not put much time and money in old windows. Sounds like as good as time as any for replacement windows.

Get a price for removing sashes and cleaning the foam out.

Will not be cheap since they may have to damage some of the track getting them out.

Charge the tenant that estimated price. --73.152.xx.xxx




Stuck windows nightmare (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2018 4:36 PM
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I second Landlord of the Flies.

You might also give her the option of calling YOU chosen window replacement people so she can arrange and pay for the work. Getting the price might wake her up to the extent of the damage she did. (Or get the quote & show it to her). Can this tenant come up with that kind of money?

Definitely do all you can to try to get the money before she moves out. --68.10.xxx.x




Stuck windows nightmare (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2018 5:18 PM
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I think you only real solution is to install replacement windows after you destroy the old sash & parting beads trying to remove them. --71.174.xx.xx




Stuck windows nightmare (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2018 5:40 PM
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My tenant did the same thing but used super glue to keep the window from leaking air. If she only told me I could have replaced the sash and insulation so the top double hung window would have stayed up. All she had to do is lift the upper window and latch it closed.

So I remove the window and replace it with a duel gaze window, stand size 36" wide x 48" tall.

Story doesn't stop there. They city, Los Angeles, has a rule, you can't just change one window -- you have to change them all.... So I had saved the old window, used chemicals to break the bond, then I re-installed it so that I didn't have to replace 30 plus windows. What a joke my city rules are crazy.. --47.156.xx.xx




Stuck windows nightmare (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2018 5:47 PM
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Why didn't you hand her the knife to get the stuff off the window. She did it. I would also start eviction. --73.178.xxx.xx




Stuck windows nightmare (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2018 6:50 PM
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I would have her get out her credit card for the new windows, no bother with paying and adding to rent cycle. --76.188.xxx.xx




Stuck windows nightmare (by Britt [NC]) Posted on: Jul 11, 2018 2:25 AM
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We removed ugly decals on a car once with a hairdryer and goo gone. This stuff might be worse. --99.182.xx.xxx




Stuck windows nightmare (by Andrew, Canada [ON]) Posted on: Jul 11, 2018 4:16 AM
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You could try an oscillating multi tool, but I'm thinking the foam has expanded into areas you wont be able to reach.

Window replacement might be your only long term solution. --70.29.xxx.xxx




Stuck windows nightmare (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Jul 11, 2018 5:14 AM
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I think that is a new one for me. Sometimes tenants are very good at doing the un-imaginable.

Sawing with a fine saw to get in the spaces is the way to go, but the stuff expands and oozes into spaces you will not be able to get a saw into and probably won't be able to get anything in to dissolve it. Acetone will dissolve it, but it will be a mess and you will probably have to ventilate well (hard to do when the window won't open) and wear a respirator.

Let us know how it goes. --108.44.xx.xxx




Stuck windows nightmare (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Jul 11, 2018 5:18 AM
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A tenant did that to the kitchen door in his unit a few years ago. I believe he got it off with acetone. --64.251.xxx.xxx




Stuck windows nightmare (by Nellie [ME]) Posted on: Jul 11, 2018 8:42 PM
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I believe acetone is what Great Stuff says will clean up spray foam. But I donít think you will be able to get it into enough joints to move those windows.

Sounds like you will get new replacement windows on her dime. Wow! Just wow! --64.222.xxx.xx




Stuck windows nightmare (by small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Jul 11, 2018 9:29 PM
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acetone is no good once foam dries. Dried foam can only be removed mechanically (IE by hand). If they are wood windows remove the trim/ casing and this will allow you full access to the sash/ jamb gap. An oscillating tool might work at that point. Be prepared to ruin the window stops and replace them --24.194.xx.xx





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