Who pays for minor repair
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Who pays for minor repair (by Peter S [CT]) Jun 15, 2018 4:23 PM
       Who pays for minor repair (by Jeff [CO]) Jun 15, 2018 5:06 PM
       Who pays for minor repair (by Vee [OH]) Jun 15, 2018 5:46 PM
       Who pays for minor repair (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Jun 15, 2018 6:42 PM
       Who pays for minor repair (by AllyM [NJ]) Jun 15, 2018 6:49 PM
       Who pays for minor repair (by Robert J [CA]) Jun 15, 2018 9:53 PM
       Who pays for minor repair (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jun 15, 2018 10:26 PM
       Who pays for minor repair (by LindaJ [NY]) Jun 16, 2018 3:55 AM
       Who pays for minor repair (by GKARL [PA]) Jun 16, 2018 6:31 AM
       Who pays for minor repair (by S i d [MO]) Jun 16, 2018 7:33 AM
       Who pays for minor repair (by Robert,OntarioCan [ON]) Jun 16, 2018 12:46 PM


Who pays for minor repair (by Peter S [CT]) Posted on: Jun 15, 2018 4:23 PM
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Sorry if this issue has been discussed here before, but how do you handle the cost of repairs for things that go beyond normal wear and tear? Things like clogged sinks and toilets, broken closet door handles and rods, etc.

I own 20 apartment units, and I've been pretty lenient up until now, but over time things start to add up. Sometimes it might amount to a few hundred $$ a month. I am fed up.

Do you give your tenants a "freebie" the first time they call in with a repair and then bill them back after that? I worry that they won't report things and the place will be a disaster when thy move out. Also, I'm not sure of which repairs would be mandated by law to keep the units 'habitable'.

The tenant mix is working and lower middle class, so they have little extra income to hire their own tradesmen. Also they would resist paying an invoice I sent them, so I would likely have to deduct from their security deposits to get the cost of the repairs back.

Thanks for your opinions!

Pete

--70.188.xxx.xxx




Who pays for minor repair (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Jun 15, 2018 5:06 PM
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What does your lease say? That's the question.

Also, having tenants do their own repairs and hire their own people is a terrible idea in this business. --76.120.xx.xx




Who pays for minor repair (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jun 15, 2018 5:46 PM
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Bill in the next rent cycle, no waiting for a deposit - it is busted now and billed now, wallet training 101. Close the Peter charity housing service center, do you fix the lawn mower for the next door house too? --76.188.xxx.xx




Who pays for minor repair (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Posted on: Jun 15, 2018 6:42 PM
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If the damage is due to negligence I will charge them otherwise we pay. Frankly, I try to avoid doing anything that will make the tenant reluctant to report a problem. It's my experience that tenants only call when it either inconveniences them or it's costing them money i.e. a toilet that keeps running.

My lease does have a clause that states tenants will be charged for damages resulting from their failure to report repairs. --71.75.xx.xx




Who pays for minor repair (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Jun 15, 2018 6:49 PM
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When I had twenty units I would repair the problem that was caused by the tenant's abuse of the place and save the bill in their file. When they left I would take the money out of their security and make copies of the bills to send them with the balance. That way there are no hard feelings and arguments from tenants who broke the door knob saying that it's the door knobs fault. --73.178.xxx.xx




Who pays for minor repair (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jun 15, 2018 9:53 PM
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Thanks for asking this question. Here is "my" answer. A landlord has to be pretty savvy and not install "junk" that will break a tenants first touch!

If a sink clogs, you should have snaked out all fixtures before the tenancy so you know it wasn't going to be a combination of your new tenants hair and your old tenants junk down the drain. Then after a snaking, you should have provided drain screen to catch hair. This way a tenant can do their part and keep the water flowing.....

Also I provide my tenants a HomeDepot special toilet drain plunger and show them how to use it. So if they clog up a toilet, they can fix it themselves. A good plunger cost between $10 and $20. A lot less than a service call from a plumber. (I am a licensed plumbing contractor myself).

As for curtain rods or mini-blinds, I make sure they work and won't come down with a tug....

Spend a few extra bucks and get good stuff and you'll save yourself trouble in the long run. And yes, the landlord pays for most repairs......Cost of doing business. Good luck. --47.156.xx.xx




Who pays for minor repair (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jun 15, 2018 10:26 PM
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Peter S,

Great question!

Another sad case of Wimpy Lease-itis! This is an everyday occurence and MUST be spelled out in a proper lease.

When we were going under during the Great Recession I finally realized how much work I was doing because of resident damage. Most LLs pass it off as "cost of doing business". But *I* did not break that window, or chew those mini-blinds with MY teeth...and after a few years of trying we finally convinced the judge "it's not MY dirt" at move out.

My lease is clear: it defines wear and tear as the normal aging of a material thru normal use with normal care and cleaning over the entire lifespan of that material. Scratches, gouges, bumps, scrapes, rubs, chips, marks, crayon, marker, stains, rust, spills, urine, feces, hard water film build up...(the list goes on!) is NOT normal and is the resident's responsibility to clean and repair. Standard Cleaning and Repair prices on shown on a full page, single spaced in my lease, based on $50 per hour plus materials and mileage.

It's also VERY clear that the home was in perfect condition at move in and must be returned in perfect condition, ready for the next resident.

When I started spelling that out and reminding folks at move out, we now get MANY of our homes back with nothing to clean or repair, just poke a sign in the yard.

Let it slide the first time? No. That teaches them the exact opposite of what you want. We get what we allow.

Don't be a wimp:) It is what it is. If they broke it they need to either replace it, fix it, or pay YOU to do that.

BRAD

--68.50.xxx.xxx




Who pays for minor repair (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Jun 16, 2018 3:55 AM
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Damage, they pay.. wear and tear, I pay. But door knobs do break because of wear and tear and cheap ones break sooner. Unless I can prove damage (hole punched in the wall) then I figure wear and tear, but I have 1850s houses. I also don't want to nickel and dime them that they won't tell me something is wrong. Things always go wrong in old houses. --108.44.xx.xxx




Who pays for minor repair (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Jun 16, 2018 6:31 AM
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Allowing tenants to repair stuff is a bad idea. A regime of regular inspections and charging them for repairs is best. --172.58.xxx.xx




Who pays for minor repair (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Jun 16, 2018 7:33 AM
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Take Brad's advice if you want to be rich. If you don't want to be rich, then don't take Brad's advice.

Fix. Bill. Collect or Evict.

That's how Pro's (and wise amateurs) do it! --173.19.x.xxx




Who pays for minor repair (by Robert,OntarioCan [ON]) Posted on: Jun 16, 2018 12:46 PM
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Wear and tear items the rental housing provider pays. For clogged toilets it is easily cleared by buying a plumbers grade toilet auger. One way to minimize constant repairs is buy when ever possible commercial grade locks, hinges along with other building hardware is more expensive upfront but will last much longer in a rental unit. Washer less faucets with a ceramic disk is more expensive but does not need the frequent repair as the washer type of faucets. Niagara flapper less toilets use less water along with less problems of leaking flappers. Before someone moves in all the traps under the bathroom and kitchen sink should be removed then cleaned out which eliminates a lot of the problems in the future. Consider shopping at a few different Habitat for Humanity restores where most large urban areas have a few stores. Restores can locate on the internet sites. It possible to stock up on things for a lot less then the big box stores. Metal receptacle covers are much durable then the cheap plastic type which frequently break. As a rental housing provider two things have to done which are diametrically opposed one minimize operating costs while at the same time make improvements. Commercial grade hardware will last much longer where those frequent calls are cut down. Usually when a toilet is blocked up wait a few hours then they will realize before clearing out the toilet with a toilet auger not to block it up. If the heat is included then look at reducing the amount of energy a building requires. --147.194.xxx.xx





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