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Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by 1Gr81 [NC]) May 30, 2018 9:34 PM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by JB [OR]) May 30, 2018 9:40 PM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by JB [OR]) May 30, 2018 9:43 PM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by 1Gr81 [NC]) May 30, 2018 9:48 PM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by #22 [MO]) May 30, 2018 10:25 PM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Sparky [PA]) May 31, 2018 3:01 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by rentON [PA]) May 31, 2018 3:20 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Vee [OH]) May 31, 2018 3:58 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by myob [GA]) May 31, 2018 4:50 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by LindaJ [NY]) May 31, 2018 4:50 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by plenty [MO]) May 31, 2018 4:53 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Still Learning [NH]) May 31, 2018 4:54 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Pat [VA]) May 31, 2018 5:15 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by S i d [MO]) May 31, 2018 5:19 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by WMH [NC]) May 31, 2018 5:20 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by RB [MI]) May 31, 2018 5:29 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Jim in O C [CA]) May 31, 2018 5:50 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by J [FL]) May 31, 2018 5:50 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Deanna [TX]) May 31, 2018 6:15 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by AllyM [NJ]) May 31, 2018 6:34 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Tony [NJ]) May 31, 2018 6:50 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Doogie [KS]) May 31, 2018 7:05 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by 1Gr81 [NC]) May 31, 2018 7:26 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Stephen [ON]) May 31, 2018 10:29 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Mike45 [NV]) May 31, 2018 10:46 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by cjo'h [CT]) May 31, 2018 11:50 AM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) May 31, 2018 10:03 PM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jun 2, 2018 12:10 PM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by 1Gr81 [NC]) Jun 2, 2018 3:37 PM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Sara [SC]) Jun 2, 2018 5:24 PM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by J [FL]) Jun 2, 2018 6:41 PM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by cjo'h [CT]) Jun 3, 2018 3:17 PM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by mike [CA]) Jun 6, 2018 6:33 PM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by 1Gr81 [NC]) Jun 6, 2018 8:05 PM
       Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by mike [CA]) Jun 10, 2018 3:59 PM


Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by 1Gr81 [NC]) Posted on: May 30, 2018 9:34 PM
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I have a home w a lawyer applying. His profession is a concern, but not really the biggest concern. I like him. Long term job. Above average income. Single w a 20 yr old son/roommate....etc Oh yeah...a dog :/

The biggest concern is that he has misrepresented what he does. (Who he is) Showing up for a viewing in a blue collar, "name tag" type work uniform, driving a truck (Side note..before you hate me for saying that...I am a lifelong, blue collar worker) and now, TWICE, has failed to provide me w the info and a complete application as I have repeatedly requested.

Something is fishy here.

As usual, there is more to the story...details upon request...

What I need now is someone to tell me to run! Say "Run fast 1gr8t1!" and I will do it w-out blinking.

Am I being unreasonable, expecting a lawyer to understand the importance of..."Dotting the i's, and crossing the t's"? Why would he intentionally misrepresent himself?

Here's the bigger question (because I think I've already made up my mind) How do you say, politely, I am denying your application because you have failed to provide me w the requested info"...to a lawyer?

Is this "gut feeling" stuff?...Yup. That being said, I am reminded of someone here that said (paraphrased) "My husband got so good w his gut feeling, that he rejected everyone."

There is a small chance that I may be in that slump, as well.

HELP!! :)

--74.124.xxx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by JB [OR]) Posted on: May 30, 2018 9:40 PM
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Run fast G. This guy is already a problem and can't even follow easy procedures. Maybe he's testing you to see what he can get away with. Don't let him get a foot in the front door! --50.45.xxx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by JB [OR]) Posted on: May 30, 2018 9:43 PM
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"Sorry, I have to follow the same procedure for everyone, as you know. I must decline for incomplete application." --50.45.xxx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by 1Gr81 [NC]) Posted on: May 30, 2018 9:48 PM
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Thank you JB. This "job" rarely makes me crazy, but today it did. :) --74.124.xxx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by #22 [MO]) Posted on: May 30, 2018 10:25 PM
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Personally, I'm more concerned with what sort of law they practice. Ambulance chaser - no way. I rented to a contracts lawyer and she's been super easy to work with. I wonder a lot why the fake act.... --173.24.xxx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Sparky [PA]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 3:01 AM
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Maybe he was doing undercover investigation and needed to look more common. --100.6.xx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by rentON [PA]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 3:20 AM
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My screening process doesn't start until I have a completed application. Block the phone number so it goes to voicemail. Keep searching for a qualified candidate that provides a completed application. --67.165.xx.xx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 3:58 AM
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Could be a tester, but so far you have passed - same process for everyone alike, you gave a second chance and that is more than you get in nearly every schoolyard fight - next batter. --76.188.xxx.xx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by myob [GA]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 4:50 AM
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one of the 4 P's not accepted:

Police

Politician

Preachers

Property Managers --99.103.xxx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 4:50 AM
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So how did you find out he is a lawyer? Is he an unemployed lawyer working as a delivery person? Does he say he is a lawyer and isn't really? Is he a lawyer that has a few of his own clients, but works at his relatives business a lot to help out. I know a few "lawyers" that hate working at firms and although they keep their bar membership, do other things as well.

BUT if he won't give you a complete application, you can't process it and he can't rent. --108.44.xx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 4:53 AM
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Hi. Sorry but i can't offer the property at this time. We will put your application in our pending file

Did you run a credit report? If so you need tob send a letter. --99.203.xx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 4:54 AM
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Something does not add up. Was lawyer the employment on the application or did you find that doing research? I wonder if too many people say no to lawyers and he was trying a new approach, although misrepresenting yourself doesn’t work either. --24.61.xxx.xx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 5:15 AM
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I like RentOn's advice. My drama meter is going off. I don't think I'd even tip him off about the incomplete application, because he might complete it!

--71.51.xxx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 5:19 AM
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Teacher: "Today we're going to talk about what our parent's do for work."

Max: "My daddy's a liar."

Teacher: "A liar? I'm sure you don't mean that."

Max: "Well, he puts on a suit and tie and talks to a judge."

Teacher: "Oh, you mean a LAWYER!"

Max: (shrugs shoulders like "what's the difference?")

- Movie, "Liar Liar"

I don't mind people keeping personal business personal--I do the same thing when I am the manager vs. the owner--but employment is material to the lease application. Any misrepresentation is grounds for denial.

Run, Gr8t1, run! --173.19.x.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 5:20 AM
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I don't ask for information! It's all on the app. If the info is incomplete then I don't have an application I can work with and I ignore it. I don't chase, I don't inform they are not qualified, I do nothing. --50.82.xxx.xx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by RB [MI]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 5:29 AM
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Didn't someone else (jump in) and Qualify for the place ? --47.35.xx.xx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 5:50 AM
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Say he was a garbage collector and sending signals something is amiss would you still want to rent to him? DON’T WALK RUN TO ANOTHER APPLICANT.

I had a lawyer screw me out of a $25 application fee. Lesson learned. --75.22.xx.xx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by J [FL]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 5:50 AM
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Agree with Linda and WMH. Keep it simple. Incomplete app, doesn't cooperate--just deny. Lawyer, blue collar uniform and all the other stuff is just window dressing. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 6:15 AM
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Mine enjoys dressing down in situations where he feels people are likely to give him a "rich guy" price versus an "ordinary guy" price. Like when buying cars, or real estate, or whatever.

I don't screen for credit, and I don't charge an app fee, so I normally say, "If it's successful, I'll call you by lunchtime Tuesday" or whatever. If you pull credit or take fees, you may have other obligations to respond come into play.

So if they do follow up, I can say, "I need you to provide me with x. You left it blank, and I can't move forward without the information. I'll keep it here on my desk until you get that to me." And then put the ball in their court, one thing at a time, until they've complied correctly, and I hope that someone else with their stuff together applies in the meantime.

If I have to hold someone's hand to get compliance with the initial process, how much more will I have to stand over them as a tenant? That's not a characteristic I want to encourage in my tenant base. --166.137.xxx.xx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 6:34 AM
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Maybe disbarred attorney. He has already failed to complete the application and may have a mentally disabled son. I rented to one of those who was divorcing. He left when I refused to give him free rent over the summer so he could vacation in Turkey with his Turkish ex wife. Oh, and he let the shared custody dog pee all over my carpet. RUN --73.178.xxx.xx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Tony [NJ]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 6:50 AM
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Another LL in NJ once told me that we CAN discriminate against a lawyer applicant because that applicant is a "known litigant" . Kind of makes sense. I never got a pro opinion on that since I haven't had any lawyers apply. --73.195.xxx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Doogie [KS]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 7:05 AM
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Mentally disabled son??? Where in the world did that come from???

I would deny on incomplete application and move on. I don't blame the guy for dressing down. They don't wear a suit when not in the office. People also seem to think lawyers are "rich" (like landlords and we know the truth on that). He may be just trying not to portray that "rich" role. --98.175.xxx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by 1Gr81 [NC]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 7:26 AM
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Lot's of great advice here.

My thoughts after sleeping on it.

Something is terribly fishy.

I don't mind someone "dressing down", I do it myself. I find it disarms people. The thing is, though, this guy came to the initial showing wearing a mechanics type, fresh from work, name tagged shirt. Weird.

The only way I realized he was a lawyer was because of the application. AND he's apparently a partner! again...weird. Based on some of his sloppy correspondence, application misstep etc, It's hard for me to believe he is a lawyer, unless he's playing this "Dress down" game to the max.

I am beginning to believe he is trying to secure a home for his 20 year old, while attempting to give me as little of his personal info as possible. Probably some issues w the son. I won't know because I'm walking away from this one.

Thanks again for all of the support. --74.124.xxx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Stephen [ON]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 10:29 AM
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1Gr81, Never, ever give a reason for rejection. My application form, which is a standard form provided by a landlord's association makes it clear that where an application is denied the landlord shall not be required to give reasons therefore. End of story.

If you give reasons it could be the start of attempts at negotiation, claims against you or all kinds of trouble. Just deny and then maintain silence then onto the next. Here in Canada the great fear is that they can launch a Human Rights complaint against you on even the flimsiest of evidence and make a claim that you are discriminating in some manner. Silence is a virtue in these circumstances.

--129.100.xxx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Mike45 [NV]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 10:46 AM
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1. I don't wear a suit unless I am going to court. In my office right now, I am wearing slacks and a polo shirt.

2. I sometimes drive my pick-up truck. Not often, but sometimes.

3. Incomplete application -- if he calls you, tell him that the application was incomplete and cannot be processed. But don't chase him for the completed application. And you have not rejected him, he still has not applied -- you are waiting for him to complete the application, even if you have not pointed it out to him. He's a big boy and presumably knows that it was not complete.

--71.38.xxx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 11:50 AM
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Why do yo have to tell him anything. When I process an applicant,I take their $35 credit fee and tell them when they're approved I'll call them.If you don't hear from me by noon tomorrow it means you were rejected.No call...........charlie.........................................m..............m........ --174.199.xx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: May 31, 2018 10:03 PM
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So, what's on the application for the 20 year old son?

Incomplete application is grounds for rejection. It says so in my written criteria and right there on my application. --174.216.x.xx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jun 2, 2018 12:10 PM
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Great One,

OK, I’ll say it

* * * “Run fast 1gr81!” * * *

Congrats on keeping your eyes and ears open!

Me? We don’t meet prospects. NOTHING happens until we have their completed app and do at least a partial screening. This app would have died the moment it was submitted due to incomplete info. Or died at employment verification. No attorneys, period. (Legal in MY state)

(Reminder: NEVER write on the original app. It’s your only evidence to defend yourself.)

Don’t add anything to his story. Let him fill in the blanks himself.

A quick check of NC Fair Housing laws on the intergoogs does not show SOURCE OF INCOME as a protected class. Counties and cities can and do add more classes so check locally.

Dress? meh. Anything goes these days. Maybe the uniform shirt was “shabby chic hipster” (I see a lot of hipsters wearing Cub Scout shirts with official patches. Shoulda saved mine to sell for big bucks!)

I DO like your thought he could be looking for the son.

(Where did the disabled son comment come from?)

We don’t call or text to say their app was denied.

Keep marketing like a crazy person and to find an easy applicant.

BRAD

--68.50.xxx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by 1Gr81 [NC]) Posted on: Jun 2, 2018 3:37 PM
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Thanks for the great insight and advice Brad.

To answer a couple of questions....

My (possibly paranoid) thought's about the son were based on some strange conversations, during our initial meeting, where he mentioned that the 20 year old son would be living there, but then failed to provide his info (one of several items missing), on the application. When I questioned him about his son's info, his story changed and something, less than believable, was mumbled about him being in a hospital. Weird. The fact that the father's income was above average for this particular home, really got me thinking.

Interesting that so many here don't inform the prospect that they weren't approved. I don't give a reason, but I do let the know, so they can move on. I may need to add the "If you haven't heard from me by....then you weren't approved" conversation. I honestly never thought of that.

I think I need to add some sort of pre-aproval process other than the phone screening. WMH(NC) has a nice process where she has prospects fill out an online Google survey/pre-screen. I really like that idea. Especially since more and more of my contacts are taking advantage of the digital world.

Am I to understand that you have them fill out a complete application as part of your pre-screen? I would like to hear more about that. How do you have them sign the authorization?

Stephen (on) I think that I need to add that denial explanation to my application.

As always, lot's of great ideas and support. Thank you.

--74.124.xxx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by Sara [SC]) Posted on: Jun 2, 2018 5:24 PM
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I think his son has bad credit or a questionable past. I think he’s renting it for his son to live there. That was my first thought. --174.107.xxx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by J [FL]) Posted on: Jun 2, 2018 6:41 PM
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"Interesting that so many here don't inform the prospect that they weren't approved. I don't give a reason, but I do let the know, so they can move on. I may need to add the "If you haven't heard from me by....then you weren't approved" conversation. I honestly never thought of that."

I don't contact them (unless it's to send the credit denial letter), but if they text me asking what happened I let them know it isn't going to work out. I try not to get into details of why they were denied.

--72.188.xxx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Jun 3, 2018 3:17 PM
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1Gt81,If all his other information jives and credit is good,rent to him.My daughter in the Greater Boston Area rents to an Attorney for going on two some years Both have still a good rapport............ myob

.........two of my partners were police officers,one is now investigating officer for the State Attorney general's. office, never had a problem............charlie....................

.................................. --174.199.xx.xx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by mike [CA]) Posted on: Jun 6, 2018 6:33 PM
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find a legit reason to decline. they're always a nuisance sooner or later. when i was doing a lot of roofing as a contractor if a potential client told me they were a lawyer i would tell 'em right to their face "sorry, i don't work for lawyers". they have an uncontrollable need to "pee" on the contracts we use and mark them up like we were looking for their advice. no lawyers, no strippers with kids, no bikers, no jailbirds, no folks w/o a checking acct...the torment that the lowlifes bring is never worth the rent they might pay --76.176.xxx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by 1Gr81 [NC]) Posted on: Jun 6, 2018 8:05 PM
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Mike CA...It would seem that we are brothers. ;)

"No strippers w kids." LOL!!

You may have helped me regain a bit of sanity in this this crazy, crazy world.

Thanks friend. --74.124.xxx.xxx




Uh oh...Lawyer applying (by mike [CA]) Posted on: Jun 10, 2018 3:59 PM
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thanks gr81...try the veal, i'm here all week --76.176.xxx.xxx





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