 Stoop Dilemma (by Mr. T [IN]) May 21, 2018 4:01 PM
 Stoop Dilemma (by plenty [MO]) May 21, 2018 6:39 PM
Stoop Dilemma (by #22 [MO]) May 21, 2018 6:47 PM
Stoop Dilemma (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) May 21, 2018 7:20 PM
Stoop Dilemma (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) May 21, 2018 7:22 PM
Stoop Dilemma (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) May 21, 2018 9:52 PM
Stoop Dilemma (by Vee [OH]) May 22, 2018 5:42 AM
Stoop Dilemma (by Mr. T [IN]) May 22, 2018 6:22 AM
Stoop Dilemma (by cjo'h [CT]) May 22, 2018 2:35 PM
Stoop Dilemma (by 1Gr81 [NC]) May 22, 2018 3:57 PM
Stoop Dilemma (by Mr. T [IN]) Posted on: May 21, 2018 4:01 PM
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I have a triplex building which has had mold damage and powder post beetle damage due to the tops of the front and back stoops being flush with the interior flooring. According to my mold consultant this is allowing water to seep behind the stoops into the crawl space. This has rotted the rim joist beneath both stoops and has caused mold in the crawl space joists.
The beetles have been treated and the mold cleaned up. But the really expensive repair is preventing the mold from coming back again.
My mold consultant says we should jack hammer out the stoops, replace the rotted rim joists and any subflooring, apply a spray on insulation, then build new stoops but make them 8 inches lower than the interior flooring.
Problem is, this is all going to cost an additional $21,000.
I'm really not in the mood for that kind of cost. Note that my mold consultant also doubles as a contractor that fixes these types of problems. The $21,000 quote is from him, so I will get other quotes. But I'm just wondering if there are alternative fixes for this problem.
For example, would patching cement work on the existing stoops to keep water out? Does the rotted rim joist have to be replaced? Or is it possible to replace it without removing the stoops? (I'm no construction expert).
Any ideas or suggestions are welcome. Thanks!
--67.236.xxx.xxx |
Stoop Dilemma (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: May 21, 2018 6:39 PM
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Can the current stoops be slopped away from building? Like shave away top layer ? $21k? Really? That's huge investment. --99.203.xx.xxx |
Stoop Dilemma (by #22 [MO]) Posted on: May 21, 2018 6:47 PM
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I would get multiple opinions on this and disregard the mold specialists advice. Some pictures would clarify a lot of questions... does the stoop pitch inward towards the house, steering rain water into it? --174.234.xxx.xx |
Stoop Dilemma (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: May 21, 2018 7:20 PM
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Maybe call a threshold expert. You could rip out the rotted threshold and build it up a couple of inches to create a waterproof barrier between transitions. They could add a rubber membrane and waterproofing to the threshold subflooring and water proof it so that it drains. They could even wrap it in copper flashing and that would keep it watertight, and add a waterproof separator between inside and out. That would stop anything from outside from coming in.
Sounds like your carpenter is recommending a super fix. --108.69.xxx.xxx |
Stoop Dilemma (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: May 21, 2018 7:22 PM
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Maybe if it slopes towards the door, grind out a channel for the water to run off the sides and cover that channel with a grate. The channel could run in front of threshold. --108.69.xxx.xxx |
Stoop Dilemma (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: May 21, 2018 9:52 PM
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Mr T,
Metal L flashing to stop the water from touching the wood like when adding a deck?
Rim joist is important - it holds up the walls. Can you sister on another joist for support? That's cheap, mostly grunt labor.
BRAD --68.50.xxx.xxx |
Stoop Dilemma (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: May 22, 2018 5:42 AM
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I suggest drilling a drain hole on each side and adding a mortar crown with a lip to aim the water away from the house. --76.188.xxx.xx |
Stoop Dilemma (by Mr. T [IN]) Posted on: May 22, 2018 6:22 AM
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Excellent ideas everyone! I'll be exploring those.
For #22, the stoop may be sloping very slightly toward the house near the threshold. I'll have to get a level and check. I'm not sure how to post pictures here (I'm not too tech savvy), but if you will be at the convention I can show you pictures there. --67.236.xxx.xxx |
Stoop Dilemma (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: May 22, 2018 2:35 PM
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For that kind of money,instead of using regular material,they must be hooking up with some of the characters at Fort Knox and using some of those gold bars that they confiscated in Iraq.....................................................charlie......................... --174.199.x.xx |
Stoop Dilemma (by 1Gr81 [NC]) Posted on: May 22, 2018 3:57 PM
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ll-o-the flies is spot on. He is my new hero. :)
The only thing I would add is (if this a concrete stoop) buy a cement product that can be applied from "thick" to a feathered finish. (Commercial concrete supply house)Screw some form boards on the side of the stoop, creating a slope away from the home, fill w aforementioned product.
Also, tearing off the existing stoop, and pouring a thinner one, is not unreasonable.
Best of luck. --74.124.xxx.xxx |
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