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smoking (by matt [TX]) May 13, 2018 8:05 PM
       smoking (by Jason [VA]) May 13, 2018 9:53 PM
       smoking (by Jim in O C [CA]) May 13, 2018 10:28 PM
       smoking (by Vee [OH]) May 14, 2018 5:28 AM
       smoking (by S i d [MO]) May 14, 2018 6:04 AM
       smoking (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) May 14, 2018 12:05 PM
       smoking (by Pmh [TX]) May 14, 2018 12:32 PM
       smoking (by RB [MI]) May 14, 2018 2:04 PM

smoking (by matt [TX]) Posted on: May 13, 2018 8:05 PM

We got burnt once. A real nice couple got approved by lying about smoking. By accident, we discovered this when they reported an issue on first week. The house smelled so bad that I suspected smoking on first visit. One second day when I brought a contractor to work, he smoked right in front of me without realizing I was landlord.

Issued notice. they started whining about house condition. gave happy clause and they left in a hurry and went back to apartment living.

when you review applicant, how do you confirm? how many times or different ways do you ask to make sure?

I don't have luxury of interviewing each of them. some of them are brought by realtors. i'm part time and till have W2 to work for.

smoking (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: May 13, 2018 9:53 PM

During prescreening, I usually ask "How many smokers are there (without pausing) and do they smoke inside or out?

This "implies" that smoking is ok as long as it's outside, and it causes them to let their guards down a bit. As a general rule, I avoid yes/no questions because they're easier to lie to. A lot of times when somebody is lying to an open question, you'll get a nice long studder beforehand as they compose their story.

smoking (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: May 13, 2018 10:28 PM

I only allow applicants I have met. I look inside their cars while they are checking out the property. Then I get within an unconformable 12 inches and see if I smell cigarette smoke.

Since MJ is allowed in Taxifornia I allow all forms of delivery except smoking. They can smell it, gargle with it or eat as many MJ cookies as they want but no smoking. --75.22.xx.xx

smoking (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: May 14, 2018 5:28 AM

Advertise -maintained smoke free- so this covers the stuff they need to exhale, if they get as far as interior look around I mention the cost of seal/prime/refinish being 250-300 per room if guests smoke indoors and it is added to the next rent cycle - no need to prolong the pain and discover at moveout there is nowhere near enough to cover the costs when the repair bills were held for the deposit - the deposit is for damages discovered -after- moveout, bill for current damages as they occur, and when guests do damage we ask them to collect from the guest - we are not getting in the middle of that.

smoking (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: May 14, 2018 6:04 AM

I'm full time W2, direct my church's bell choir, serve on our Board of Directors, play in our Praise Team and have 3 kids with activities... and I still meet all my applicants.

It's part of the deal, and there's no way around it if you're wanting to avoid more "surprises" like this one.

Also, need to start doing in home inspections. You or your representative must see and smell their current home, because that is what your home will look and smell like within a month of their moving in. Hire it done if you have to, but make sure to do it. Find an enterprising kid from church or a young college student looking to earn $20 to drop by and have them sign a form or use my favorite excuse for people with animals: "We have to get pictures of the animal in its current living space for insurance purposes."

If they refuse, you'll know why: they're hiding something nasty. Deny.

smoking (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: May 14, 2018 12:05 PM

If you're there in person, carry a pack with you with one cigarette in it. Pull it out and ask for a light. If they have a lighter, or even flinch for it out of habit, you know they do or did smoke. It took me about a year of non-smoking to get out of the habit of reaching for my lighter when asked.

Then realizing you only have one left, say you want to save it for later since it's the last.

smoking (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: May 14, 2018 12:32 PM

my houses are non smoking inside. I know they will have friends who smoke. they can do so outside. lease has clause that smoking inside is violation of the contract & grounds for termination. In 25 years I have never had a problem. My marketing is geared towards non smokers . I donít mess with silly tricks pulling out a lighter. Sid. you need to move to England. many church bell ringing groups shutting down after 100s of years bc no bell ringers...

smoking (by RB [MI]) Posted on: May 14, 2018 2:04 PM

The only smoke I wanna see

is off the back heel of their shoes,

keeping the rental looking as good as the way they found it. --47.35.xx.xx

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