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Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Jeff [CO]) Apr 22, 2018 3:04 PM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by NE [PA]) Apr 22, 2018 3:15 PM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by fred [CA]) Apr 22, 2018 3:15 PM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Apr 22, 2018 3:37 PM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Robert J [CA]) Apr 22, 2018 4:12 PM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by RathdrumGal [ID]) Apr 22, 2018 4:36 PM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Deanna [TX]) Apr 22, 2018 4:48 PM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by WMH [NC]) Apr 22, 2018 4:54 PM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by AllyM [NJ]) Apr 22, 2018 5:03 PM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by RockyMtnLL [CO]) Apr 22, 2018 5:20 PM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Robin [WI]) Apr 22, 2018 5:39 PM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Jeff [CO]) Apr 22, 2018 6:18 PM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by NE [PA]) Apr 22, 2018 6:24 PM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Barb [MO]) Apr 22, 2018 6:30 PM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by myob [GA]) Apr 22, 2018 6:38 PM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 22, 2018 8:28 PM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by JB [OR]) Apr 22, 2018 8:52 PM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Tom [FL]) Apr 22, 2018 11:08 PM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by plenty [MO]) Apr 23, 2018 2:46 AM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Jeff [CO]) Apr 23, 2018 6:21 AM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by myob [GA]) Apr 23, 2018 7:43 AM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by LindaJ [NY]) Apr 23, 2018 8:55 AM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Don [PA]) Apr 23, 2018 10:26 AM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Apr 23, 2018 11:07 AM
       Who Owns Repair Tools? (by myob [GA]) Apr 23, 2018 1:59 PM

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Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 3:04 PM
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I have a great (insured) handyman that has been working on my buildings for the past 5 years or so. I have accounts at two nearby Ace stores, so he can charge what he needs. For bigger jobs he sources materials at Home Despot.

I have been noticing small tools included in the statement for a while, but haven't said anything. They aren't returned to me.

I don't want to nickel and dime the guy, but I kinda think he should be buying his own tools. When I get my car fixed I don't have to buy the mechanic his own tools.

Any thoughts?

--76.120.xx.xx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 3:15 PM
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I wouldn't buy his tools if he's supposed to provide them.

Razor blades, screw tips, even a saw blade I'll let slide. --50.107.xxx.xxx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by fred [CA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 3:15 PM
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Is he charging you below market prices for his services?

If yes, let him keep these small hand tools - I guess they are small - as part of the payment.

I agree with you that a handyman and a subcontractor should have to have their own tools and transportation. However, if he is loyal, does a good job, does what he says he would do...you can overlook this.

BTW, what are the amounts you are talking about? --99.59.x.xxx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 3:37 PM
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While specialized power tools are essential to complete work. The contractor should have have a assortment of power tools, hand tools. Often used tools can be bought on the internet sites or sometimes at the Habitat for Humanity restores. Good quality tools even used have a last a long time. Found a multi tool saves considerable time along not damaging materials. If expensive power tools are provided the power tools under no circumstances leave the property where some contractors will pawn the power tools. --147.194.xxx.xxx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 4:12 PM
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With a HomeDepot credit card, you can go online and get a copy of the purchase receipt anytime you like. One of my workers went to Lowe's and purchased a $200 saw, not for any of my jobs. So after 30 days I saw the saw on his truck and said, "Who what a nice saw. Where did you get it"? He stated, "Oh at Lowe's". I then asked him if he charged on my credit card or used his debit card? He then remembered that he used my card and needed to pay. The next day I found a check in my mailbox for the $200.

On all of the credit cards issued to workers/managers, I have a low limit.

--47.156.xx.xx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by RathdrumGal [ID]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 4:36 PM
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Our handyman supplies his own tools. --98.146.xxx.xxx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 4:48 PM
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My handyguy has his own tools to do most jobs. I provide things like blades, screws, nails, etc.

Occasionally, I'll need to provide a specialized tool, like, say, a sharkbite clamp tool. In that case, I'll buy it, let him use it, and claim it back at the end of the day until next time. --166.137.xxx.xx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 4:54 PM
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You've got a reliable handyman? Who isn't screwing you overall? Spends a few dollars on hand tools needed to complete your job? Doesn't give them back?

Are we talking dollars or tens or hundreds?

................... --50.82.xxx.xx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 5:03 PM
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If it's something for a particular job you needed done and the tool will be useless to him afterward or is a one time use item, I would not have a problem with that. Say he needs a glass cutter for your job and doesn't normally cut glass, he might buy one and charge you. Should he give it to you? Or is it worn out after the job. You decide. I had a landscape guy buy a sawsall on my dime and not give it to me. --69.141.xxx.xxx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by RockyMtnLL [CO]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 5:20 PM
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In my dealings, if I buy it, it's mine. I engrave it with the company initials, and he can use it. He can even borrow it, if needed for one of his own projects, providing he returns it. However, I would not like the precedent it sets if I were to let slide the purchase of tools that the handyman keeps because of the escalation that tends to naturally happen. "Oh, there was no mention of the $10 item I bought...how about if I charge a $100 item? $300 item?" Then, if you attempt to stop it later, it is awkward and backpedaling. Keep it clean early. Also, make sure you pay enough - I do bonuses when I can, and at Christmas time I provide a nice tool or gift card to the hardware store for them. --69.130.xxx.xxx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 5:39 PM
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What Rocky said. If you don't watch the pennies, it will be dollars soon. I had this happen with an electrician that I'd used for a couple of years. He brought his son into the business, and the next thing I knew was that I was presented with a receipt for materials that included a $40 tool that he should have already had. When I called to question it, the electrician apologized and said I shouldn't have been billed for it. There were no more inappropriate charges.

I'll pay for consumables, but for tools--no way! --204.210.xxx.xxx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 6:18 PM
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Some good questions (and answers) here. I am talking about a drill bit here, a spackle knife there, etc.

When he started working for me I opened a Home Despot account online. He bought some stuff and came back and gave me a $200 Black and Decker drill set. He told me that it was a gift from the store for opening an account. He could have easily kept it and I never would have known. He's a very honest guy.

I don't want to nickel and dime him, but I will start requesting that any tools purchased be returned to me. I should have done this long ago.

I just don't feel right about buying tools for someone else.

--76.120.xx.xx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 6:24 PM
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That is minor stuff. I would let fly something like a sawzall blade, but question an entire pack of assorted assorted blades. --50.107.xxx.xxx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 6:30 PM
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Mine charges if a special blade or if a tool needs to be rented. Concrete saw, jackhammer, etc.

If I have the tools handy, he may use mine. Example, we have a high end 12 inch chop saw, a table saw, and a drill press. When he spent 2 months working on my place, he used what was here rather than hauling his over. --64.251.xxx.xxx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 6:38 PM
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We not only supply tools and credit card we supply a work van. We have a business credit card with a 1K limit on Amex card. when ever a charge it comes right to my phone - right away.

Anything on the charge card goes into the van and belongs to the business. He has his own tool belt but we stocked the van with maintenance tools for all including HVAC tools and parts,plumbing and painting equipment. When flipping/rehabing everything needed is on the work van.

I will say that I check the receipts-- not so much that I would catch something-- but just so he knows its being checked-- WHY temp him to do something he normally do? --99.103.xxx.xxx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 8:28 PM
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Jeff,

A $200 gift for opening an account??? Seems odd. Check that receipt and ask the manager.

Time to step up and manage. Talk to him and remind him you do not pay for tools. This is Boundary Creep. Hes moving the boundary.

NEVER believe they are not stealing. NEVER. Verify EVERYTHING. Your review of every receipt will show hes being honest. But he can still be returning stuff for cash. If hes not, great. But Ive been fooled many times.

My Independent Contractor Agreement (signed before they start every job) is clear: Contractor supplies all tools, ladders, permits, etc. Client provides materials and consumables such as visqueen, tape, blades, small drill bits, trash bags, rags, paper towels...

BRAD --68.50.xxx.xxx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 8:52 PM
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He sounds okay to me. I am not sure I'd want to go and start something over nothing. It might cause bad blood. --50.45.xxx.xxx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 11:08 PM
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Depending on the quality of drill bits, saw blades, are short term use may break or wear out. Spackle Knife could go either way; a cheap plastic can break and a metal one will last a long time. HOWEVER, if you feel more comfortable asking to have all tools or tool related items keep in your tool storage area then let handyman know to leave the tools in case you may need a tool, spackle knife or drill bit. --99.56.xx.xx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2018 2:46 AM
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Do you want to own these tools? Sounds more like you just don't care to pay for them? I sometimes buy a small tool like this because its convenient or my seems to alluded me at the moment. Or you read the package or instructions and find you need something specific or i have this type of knife but they sell only that kind of blade. --99.203.x.x




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2018 6:21 AM
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Thanks, everyone. I read all of your responses. Myob had some good points, too.

Bard, I hear you about boundary creep. However, the electric drill was a good surprise. I didn't question it. I never paid for it, it was new, and they didn't have to give it to me. I never would have known. --76.120.xx.xx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2018 7:43 AM
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Jeff thank you. I know some of you don't need anything like a van. I get it. We started out with a C10 chevy van then moved up to trailer for behind van then a bread truck -- dually size-- now have storage 40X15 and chevy van for daily use. You should have at least a mini wearhouse. Storage that's secure. Leave your supplies in the unit. More importantly have a unit to keep YOUR DEALS-- ceiling fans on sale- stove or water heater spare that was on sale or from yard sale. Most don't get the extra supplies because there's no place to put them. Second reason for storage. Put one of those push button lock boxes on it-- with the key for the unit. When you need to call for maintenance give you man the code. (pick a storage facility central to your property's with cameras) Explain that you have parts and go get them. Remind him the place is monitored.

--99.103.xxx.xxx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2018 8:55 AM
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If you want to bring it up, do it in a non confrontational way.... "Joe, I could not find the xxx you picked up with the supplies the other day. I need to do xxx job with it, is it around?" That at least lets him know you are watching. Gives him a chance to change his behavior without ruining the relationship. --96.236.xx.xx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Don [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2018 10:26 AM
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Myob, paying two hundred a month for a storage unit so that you can stock up on cheap ceiling fans or save left over lumber and sparkle does not make sense. I own a unit with an efficiency apt. Upstairs and a small garage down. I use the garage for my storage. Super convenient to all my properties, I even own the houses on either side of it and can run extension cords to do work if the elec. is off. However, what I really should do is empty it out , even if I have to trash supplies, and rent it out. People with motorcycles in the city will pay three hundred a month for a heated garage that can accommodate several bikes. --73.141.xxx.xxx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2018 11:07 AM
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Another thing to consider, who owns those tools? If they were charged to your account, then they are your tools. Never loan your tools to your handyman. By providing tools, you are employing them and liable for their accidents. What if he cuts his hand off with the new saw he charged to your account? --108.69.xxx.xxx




Who Owns Repair Tools? (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2018 1:59 PM
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Don PA I pay 200.00 for a 40X15 with 2 garage doors-- one on either end. 100% camera and secure checkpoint gate. I had to grow into that size unit. I think a garage size is about 85.00. I'm glad you went to the next step about renting it out cause that's exactly what and were I was heading with this. Even better if you can divide it up and rent parking per M- cycle. Man I'm liking that.......... get income on garage and then deduct cost of little storage area at a storage place. --99.103.xxx.xxx



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