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ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Apr 20, 2018 1:27 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by J [FL]) Apr 20, 2018 1:46 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by RB [MI]) Apr 20, 2018 2:33 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by S i d [MO]) Apr 20, 2018 2:38 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Apr 20, 2018 2:49 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by S i d [MO]) Apr 20, 2018 3:04 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Apr 20, 2018 3:16 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by Ken [NY]) Apr 20, 2018 3:20 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by NE [PA]) Apr 20, 2018 3:27 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Apr 20, 2018 3:35 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Apr 20, 2018 3:53 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by J [FL]) Apr 20, 2018 3:56 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Apr 20, 2018 4:07 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by J [FL]) Apr 20, 2018 4:39 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by 1Gr81 [NC]) Apr 20, 2018 5:02 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by AllyM [NJ]) Apr 20, 2018 5:58 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by AllyM [NJ]) Apr 20, 2018 5:59 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by Robin [WI]) Apr 20, 2018 7:38 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by JB [OR]) Apr 20, 2018 8:25 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by Livethedream [AZ]) Apr 20, 2018 8:54 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by plenty [MO]) Apr 21, 2018 4:51 AM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Apr 21, 2018 5:03 AM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by LindaJ [NY]) Apr 21, 2018 6:04 AM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by Ken [NY]) Apr 21, 2018 6:08 AM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Apr 21, 2018 10:27 AM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by J [FL]) Apr 21, 2018 10:33 AM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by J [FL]) Apr 21, 2018 10:33 AM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by J [FL]) Apr 21, 2018 10:34 AM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by Busy [WI]) Apr 21, 2018 11:17 AM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by LindaJ [NY]) Apr 21, 2018 12:38 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by J [FL]) Apr 21, 2018 1:01 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by 1Gr81 [NC]) Apr 21, 2018 5:39 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Apr 22, 2018 4:39 AM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by 1Gr81 [NC]) Apr 22, 2018 7:41 AM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by Barb [MO]) Apr 22, 2018 7:48 AM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Apr 22, 2018 8:02 AM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by Wilma [PA]) Apr 23, 2018 12:32 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by Lisa [FL]) Apr 24, 2018 9:55 AM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by Gina [MA]) Apr 24, 2018 10:26 AM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by GWC [OR]) Apr 24, 2018 6:25 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by K Paul [OH]) Apr 25, 2018 12:13 PM
       ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Apr 25, 2018 2:16 PM

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ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 1:27 PM
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Guy *just* moved in April 1st.

Calls me today, "I found a puppy I couldn't resist." Laughing.

I tell him, "No puppies."

He says, "WHAT? Can't we work something out?"

I say, "No puppies."

He says, "Well I'll have to move then..."

Me: "Don't let the door hit you on the ..." [Not really, but I did say Keep me posted! and then sent him a 5 day notice to cure.]

It was a longer conversation than that because he kept asking if there was anything we could out, any deposit he could give us, anything to make it work. I pointed out to him that he had just made it almost impossible for him to move as the only two pet-friendly houses out there right now are both ours, and we DON'T ALLOW PUPPIES.

Argh. --50.82.xxx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by J [FL]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 1:46 PM
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Wonder if he will back down now? If he does I guess you'll have to micro-manage him and check up on the unit often. Doesn't sound like a person much common sense. --72.188.xxx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 2:33 PM
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Aint that the sound a Pirate makes ? --47.35.xx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 2:38 PM
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You're one tough cookie, WMH. Since my properties are all Class C and most are now carpet free, I would've told him, "Sure...$1000 non-refundable fee and $1000 damage deposit, in cash, deposited by tomorrow."

Everything can be worked out...for the right price. --173.17.xx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 2:49 PM
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We worked it out. He's a nice guy, didn't lie, just misunderstood our Pet Friendly policies.

He has agreed to/offered $250 per month as a Puppy Premium for one year. At the end of one year, we will re-negotiate at lease renewal. At that point, the pet fee will go to $25 or something! --50.82.xxx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 3:04 PM
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$250 per month! Nice. Ask him if he'd like another puppy for only another $200! --173.17.xx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 3:16 PM
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He offered the $250 because he found another place that would take him but it's $1450 and he likes our place better. So I told him we would discuss and call him back. We did and I said I would do the $250 extra for one year and then we'd talk. This is better for him because if he takes the other place, it's $1450 forever and possible increase next year. We will not increase for sure! --50.82.xxx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 3:20 PM
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I would rewrite the lease and add the $250 to the new lease otherwise he will get rid of it when he gets tired of it or claim it as an esa --72.231.xxx.xxx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 3:27 PM
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Good point Ken.

$250! Wow. I may reconsider dogs in my multis for that kind of money. --97.35.x.xxx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 3:35 PM
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No, I added our regular Animal Addendum and put the $250 Puppy Premium there. If he gets rid of it (he won't) I'm happy to go back to his $1200 rent which was topping out the value for that place to begin with.

It's a 650 square foot 1-bedroom cabin! It's on a very scenic backwater canal but luxurious it is not! --50.82.xxx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 3:53 PM
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The $250 is because the new place would be $250 more than we are charging him, forever. For us, after a year, it would cover having to replace the flooring if necessary due to pup problems. --50.82.xxx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by J [FL]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 3:56 PM
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Glad it worked out...I hope this person really has the income and money management skills to afford the increase though...if I'm reading it right they're willing to pay a premium of $3000 (for the total year) for this in addition to the cost of dog food and other care the animal needs, just to have this puppy. They also claim they didn't understand the pet policy but maybe they really had the puppy already and lied about it before renting from you?

Sorry that sounds so negative, and I do hope it works out but I'm very skeptical of people who do things like this at this point after a couple of bad experiences I've had myself.

--72.188.xxx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 4:07 PM
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Yep, I understand those issues. He's a local businessman who has a rather successful biz going on, he's fine with the rent increase. The $3000 came about as I told him about the $3000 damages we faced after a GOOD tenant left and pet damage was far more than pet rent and security deposit.

And it was also the price of the next unit. $250 more than ours. Forever. --50.82.xxx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by J [FL]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 4:39 PM
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OK cool...if he can afford it and you don't care about the puppy great! --72.188.xxx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by 1Gr81 [NC]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 5:02 PM
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I am always grateful to hear of a graceful win. Great job WMH! One of the many reasons that I am advertising my current (favorite) rental as pet free, is because of the damage that a puppy did to the home. My tenant wasn't so honest and my visits weren't frequent enough, apparently.

Great job. :) --74.124.xxx.xxx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 5:58 PM
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What's the breed of the puppy that stole his heart? --69.141.xxx.xxx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 5:59 PM
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RB MI, the pirates said ARGH because generally their tongues had been removed as punishment for their crimes. Not cute. --69.141.xxx.xxx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 7:38 PM
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Good for you for finding a solution that met both of your needs. That kind of flexibility leads to success! --204.210.xxx.xxx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 8:25 PM
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Unbelievable. $3000 for a year additional. That is truly incredible.

Congrats! --50.45.xxx.xxx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by Livethedream [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 8:54 PM
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Jeeze - here $1,450 would get you an estate home with a grotto pool and rv garage! --47.216.xx.xxx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 4:51 AM
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I have a HUD tenant leaving at end of month cause her dad gave the twins a puppy for Christmas. You guess it a Pit. I could have accommodated a dog there but not a pit and being in Section8 i could not have taken more money. But I'm the bad guy. Different priority, different reason why to accept or decline. Thanks for sharing your win win sitution. Had this gifted dog been a beagle i could have considered it. --99.203.xx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 5:03 AM
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The breed is a Golden Retriever. From a breeder. The best dog he could have chosen in this situation! Seriously adorable puppy of course. --50.82.xxx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 6:04 AM
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Another example of making a situation work for you WITH a good tenant. Sometimes we need to put the emotion aside and think logically how to make the best of it. --96.236.xx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 6:08 AM
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I think that must be a record monthly pet fee.Golden retriever is my favorite,i have a female golden and will foever. --72.231.xxx.xxx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 10:27 AM
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I would feel guilty except I *know* we've had to replace floors, chewed windowsills, clawed drapes, etc in the past. It can add up to a lot more than $3k. And he was willing to move to a place that costs $1450 to keep the dog. I looked it up on CL and if it's the one I think it is, turns out ours is nicer!

So in a year, when the dog is not a puppy anymore, if he stays, I will lower his rent back down. --50.82.xxx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by J [FL]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 10:33 AM
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"And he was willing to move to a place that costs $1450 to keep the dog. I looked it up on CL and if it's the one I think it is, turns out ours is nicer!"

This mentality is so strange to me. That someone would pay to move their stuff (or at least put time and effort into moving it in there) into one unit, go through signing a lease and all that, and then want to break a lease and move again 3 weeks later and move all their stuff again because the LL told them they can't have something that the the tenant should have checked into before they ever decided to rent the first unit. --72.188.xxx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by J [FL]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 10:33 AM
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"And he was willing to move to a place that costs $1450 to keep the dog. I looked it up on CL and if it's the one I think it is, turns out ours is nicer!"

This mentality is so strange to me. That someone would pay to move their stuff (or at least put time and effort into moving it in there) into one unit, go through signing a lease and all that, and then want to break a lease and move again 3 weeks later and move all their stuff again because the LL told them they can't have something that the the tenant should have checked into before they ever decided to rent the first unit. --72.188.xxx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by J [FL]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 10:34 AM
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sorry about the double post --72.188.xxx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 11:17 AM
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Awesome! Awesome! Awesome! --172.56.xx.xxx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 12:38 PM
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J - because of love, they fell in love with a puppy... which can be better than falling in love with a person!

Puppies are cute, they are a lot of work, but once trained there is nothing better than a great dog to greet you when you come home. I prefer Labs, always had one. But Goldens are great too.

Often we can't trust tenants to do the right thing, that is why we need to get security deposits and extra rent. I would never take a tenant that was willing to give up their pet to move to my place. A pet should be part of the family. --96.236.xx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by J [FL]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 1:01 PM
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Linda I guess I just see it differently. My take, going just by what it described here, is this person is very deceptive. I don't buy that he didn't understand the pet policy before he moved in. --72.188.xxx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by 1Gr81 [NC]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 5:39 PM
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WMH. I have an applicant for a home that I have advertised as a no pet home (because of grumpy neighbors), who is making a request that I make an exception for their golden retriever.

I have used your post as inspiration and required an above average rent increase for me to grant the exception.

I will let you know how it goes. I may owe you a commission. ;)

--74.124.xxx.xxx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 4:39 AM
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1Gr81, I was very frank with this guy. I told him we all love puppies, but as a dog owner myself several times over, I know the little buggers can be terribly destructive even with the best of intentions.

I told him we had just finished changing the flooring in an entire townhouse because of dog damage. Not only was it expensive, it was time-consuming and we are too old for this stuff anymore. [Note: in reality, we are happy to get rid of that carpet LOL!]

He came up with the $250 a month extra after shopping around. --50.82.xxx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by 1Gr81 [NC]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 7:41 AM
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WMH I used the same approach. (Which is true.) I have had some horrific experiences w bad pet owners, and I'm not eager to relive any of them. However, they stated that this was a 6 yr old, golden retriever.

They are less than ideal candidates. Young family, both parents w new jobs, so I honestly don't mind scaring them off w an increased rent offer.

Unfortunately, my strict stance of no pets in this home, seems to be scaring everyone away. My resolve is beginning to weaken. :) --74.124.xxx.xxx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 7:48 AM
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I love your puppy premium!

I turned one away earlier because they said they were getting a puppy in August, and wanted to move into my brand new places. They are teachers at the local HS, work at a summer camp in the summer, and had a breeder they were adopting from just before classes start.

I said, no puppies. They are still looking according to FB. --64.251.xxx.xxx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 8:02 AM
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I can't stand when people with NO TIME for themselves, even, want to get a puppy! "It will be crate-trained."

Those poor dogs...I hate it!

This guy owns his own business - printing promotional items (cups, pens, etc.) and takes the dog to work with him. He's an older guy (50's) that went through a divorce, so his dog stayed with the kids... --50.82.xxx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2018 12:32 PM
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He wanted "fries with that", and you found a way with him to make it happen. Very intelligent! AND the dog won't be left home alone all day! --71.175.xxx.xxx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by Lisa [FL]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2018 9:55 AM
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Great story! I've checked my Pet Policy Addendum and while the lease says no pets (unless with Pet Application and extra deposit and extra monthly rent) it does not say no "puppies". I am amending this today so it is very clear. Thanks for the great insight!

--76.101.xx.xx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by Gina [MA]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2018 10:26 AM
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that is not allowed in the state of Massachusetts. If you were to get caught it wouldn't be pretty. So any out there thinking I am going to do that living in my state just Don't. I suggested you simple raise the monthly rent to cover the additional costs you would would be looking for. --71.10.xxx.xxx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by GWC [OR]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2018 6:25 PM
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By the way, I am a landlord in Utah with 11 homes in Oregon. I am in town about every three months to say hi to my lessees, two independent handyman, caretaker of my beach home, and my people who serve me well from a distance.

I learned a technique from the Mr. Landlord conference two years ago.

I have ten older smaller homes but in good condition. I do not turn them over often because of my pet rule.

I start my ad with "Woof, yes your pet is family!"

I allow one pet as part of the lease agreement. I get at least $200-$300 more a month per property because of this pet concept. Let's face it, today, they say it is an emotional pet, etc. Then you must take the pet with no additional income.

Thank you, Mr. Landlord Conference, two years ago for this great tip! I am going back to the Conference in May to see what other ideas I can gain from all of you and the instructors.

--65.130.xx.xxx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by K Paul [OH]) Posted on: Apr 25, 2018 12:13 PM
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My lease says no pets, but I do offer a pet lease for pets that meet my criteria.

I work around the "NO puppy" phrasing with a requirement for a landlord reference on your pet. Puppies can't come up with a reference! Also, if you are living with family, that doesn't count either. Has to be a *landlord* reference. --174.97.xx.xxx




ARGH! Another Puppy! (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 25, 2018 2:16 PM
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Gina/MA, MA has its own dear issue which most of the rest of the country doesn't have to deal with. --50.82.xxx.xx



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