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setting sales price (by Mike [MA]) Apr 20, 2018 9:17 AM
       setting sales price (by NE [PA]) Apr 20, 2018 9:19 AM
       setting sales price (by Mike [MA]) Apr 20, 2018 9:31 AM
       setting sales price (by NE [PA]) Apr 20, 2018 9:36 AM
       setting sales price (by fred [CA]) Apr 20, 2018 10:48 AM
       setting sales price (by Deanna [TX]) Apr 20, 2018 11:13 AM
       setting sales price (by elliot [RI]) Apr 20, 2018 12:13 PM
       setting sales price (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Apr 20, 2018 12:17 PM
       setting sales price (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Apr 20, 2018 12:30 PM
       setting sales price (by Tom [FL]) Apr 21, 2018 1:29 PM
       setting sales price (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 22, 2018 8:40 PM


setting sales price (by Mike [MA]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 9:17 AM
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I've had a building for over 30 years.A 4 plex. Time to sell but how does one set the sales price? No there are no comps in the tiny isolated rural town, for over 25 miles. Would you do it based on a cap rate for an investor? . --96.236.xxx.xxx




setting sales price (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 9:19 AM
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In that situation, I would get an independent appraisal. --50.107.xxx.xxx




setting sales price (by Mike [MA]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 9:31 AM
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Actually I ran it by a friend of mine that is considered a good appraiser (but this property is out of her area) and she said to the effect "gee that would be hard w/o comps in the area"

I don't think she was being dismissive as I offered her to go out and pay her. --96.236.xxx.xxx




setting sales price (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 9:36 AM
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Call a few. I had 2 tell me one of my buildings would be hard to appraise because it was a 3 unit. What?!?!

Then the 3rd did it for me.

All they have to do is go out in a larger radius. That's how it works. --50.107.xxx.xxx




setting sales price (by fred [CA]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 10:48 AM
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Maybe the amount of rent could give you a clue. It's all about total rent income less expenses.

About the comps: in remote places, properties in other remote places could be used as comps to set the asking price and for purposes of obtaining a loan. Even 25 miles away. --99.59.x.xxx




setting sales price (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 11:13 AM
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When I see multi's for sale in my pay-attention-radius, it's normal to see the price starting at about $15-$30k/unit. On the lower end of the range if it's kind of a sad and crummy little place in need of lots of work; on the higher end of the scale if it's pretty turnkey; and jumping up to $50-$100k/unit if it's shiny/snazzy/urban/solid rents/good finishes/awesome location/new build.

So for an isolated rural town, I'd start thinking more in terms of the $15-$30k/unit sort of range.

When I see multi's for sale in a metropolitan area, the way I see them priced is generally Rent x Units x 12 months x 10 = Purchase Price. So if each unit rents for $1,000/month, and it's a quad, I'd expect to see if for sale in the neighborhood of $480k. Obviously, that only works in metropolitan areas... people in isolated, rural markets like ours wouldn't find many buyers if you have to wait ten years to recoup your costs, whereas no one has any worries about places like Boston or Cambridge not being solid markets in 10 years' time. :) --96.46.xxx.xx




setting sales price (by elliot [RI]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 12:13 PM
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I am in the process of selling my first apt. Its a small 4 unit building.. My realtor friend came back with a comp that effectively puts the cash on cash return well over 20% w/ 10% vacancy and all the good stuff..

I told her to set a higher price that will still give investor over 20% return.. That's what I consider selling on "income approach"..

You can always do an income approach if there is no comp in immediate vicinity. If the radius is too big, then it will hit both good and bad area which defeats the purpose of comp. --144.160.xxx.xx




setting sales price (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 12:17 PM
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Appraising rural areas is a specialty and very few appraisers know how to do it properly. Lenders will allow a lot of leeway for rural appraisals by allowing them to go as many miles out as needed to find some comparables. It is a lot of work since everything needs to be justified. A normal appraisal for a standard SFH costs roughly $500 today so expect to pay at least triple or more for a specialty.

Bottom line is though that an appraisal is primarily used by lenders to corroborate that the collateral is worth the amount of the loan. They have less value for selling primarily because no two appraisals will be the same and the property is only worth what the market is willing to pay.

Find some local agents, preferably 2 to 3, who are familiar with the area to give you some comps. --71.75.xx.xx




setting sales price (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2018 12:30 PM
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If you're not in a hurry, do it as an income approach appraisal, make the listing price based on that and see what happens. Drop the price after awhile, but since this is hard to find comps for, that tells me there's not much of a market for it, or everyone that has a 4plex is holding on to it.

Before offering it for sale ON the market, I'd track down others that own anything from a duplex on up and announce to that private group that it is for sale at your determined price. Do this before putting it on market. See what they'll offer for it. At that point, you'll know that your ideal price is somewhere between your price and their price. --108.69.xxx.xxx




setting sales price (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2018 1:29 PM
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Mike of MA, Call 3 appraisers in the area of the property and ask them about the property. The income approach is most likely the best approach to determine fair market value. I would not call real estate agents they will do a CMA and may overprice the property to get the listing.

Also consider having a pre-inspeciton on the building to know of any repairs that may need done before listing the building.

Let your tenants know you will be selling the units and the new owner needs to honor the leases and the term of the leases. The tenants may want you present when showing occur IF they are not home, it all depends. But I would tell them to hide or remove valuables from out of sight. --99.56.xx.xx




setting sales price (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2018 8:40 PM
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Mike,

When I sell I pay for an appraisal. On a recent flip the broker was $30k lower than the appraiser plus the buyer paid more than asking.

My $300 appraisal fee brought me an extra $32k.

BRAD --68.50.xxx.xxx





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