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OTFlag Raising (by cjo'h [CT]) Apr 15, 2018 12:46 PM
       OTFlag Raising (by Moshe [CA]) Apr 15, 2018 2:48 PM
       OTFlag Raising (by cjo'h [CT]) Apr 15, 2018 3:09 PM
       OTFlag Raising (by DJ [VA]) Apr 15, 2018 3:12 PM
       OTFlag Raising (by Moshe [CA]) Apr 16, 2018 10:23 AM
       OTFlag Raising (by cjl'h [CT]) Apr 16, 2018 11:41 AM
       OTFlag Raising (by cjo'h [CT]) Apr 16, 2018 11:53 AM
       OTFlag Raising (by Lynda [TX]) Apr 16, 2018 1:06 PM
       OTFlag Raising (by cjo'h [CT]) Apr 16, 2018 1:32 PM
       OTFlag Raising (by cjo'h [CT]) Apr 16, 2018 1:47 PM
       OTFlag Raising (by Moshe [CA]) Apr 16, 2018 1:48 PM
       OTFlag Raising (by cjo'h [CT]) Apr 16, 2018 2:01 PM
       OTFlag Raising (by Pmh [TX]) Apr 16, 2018 2:25 PM
       OTFlag Raising (by cjo'h [CT]) Apr 16, 2018 3:32 PM
       OTFlag Raising (by Moshe [CA]) Apr 16, 2018 3:33 PM
       OTFlag Raising (by Pmh [TX]) Apr 16, 2018 3:50 PM
       OTFlag Raising (by cjo'h [CT]) Apr 16, 2018 4:01 PM
       OTFlag Raising (by Pmh [TX]) Apr 16, 2018 4:09 PM
       OTFlag Raising (by Moshe [CA]) Apr 16, 2018 5:10 PM
       OTFlag Raising (by Pmh [TX]) Apr 16, 2018 5:18 PM
       OTFlag Raising (by Moshe [CA]) Apr 16, 2018 5:41 PM

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OTFlag Raising (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2018 12:46 PM
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Just listened to the Irish Hour on the local college Radio Station,,flag -raising on the New Haven Green next Sunday at 9 am commerating the Rebellion in Dublin in Easter 19 16 .Definitely have to attend..Everyone is welcome,you don't have to be Irish to attend,Remember Freedom isn't Free,There is always a price to pay,Sometimes a very high price. Sunday 22 ND April at 9am.maybe see you there.Slainte...................charlie....................say Hello........................ta an tanim Ata orm,Catal........................................................................... --174.199.x.xxx




OTFlag Raising (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2018 2:48 PM
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" flag-raising on the New Haven Green "

What flag?

--47.139.xx.xxx




OTFlag Raising (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2018 3:09 PM
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Moisbe,comment talle vous. The Irish Tricolour,Green,White and Orange..........................charlie........................ The Green for the Catholics the white in the middle,joining them with the Protestants(Orange)in the North of Ireland.Remember Ben Gurean ,He pulled his weight,good man............................. cjo'h....................................... --174.199.x.xxx




OTFlag Raising (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2018 3:12 PM
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It's a very true statement that Freedom is NOT free! All (veterans) gave some, and some gave all - Thank you to all who have served / are serving in the military!

As a veteran / patriot myself I always pay respectful attention when the US flag is raised or lowered. --68.10.xxx.xxx




OTFlag Raising (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2018 10:23 AM
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Who is "Ben Gurean"?

I know of a Ben-Gurion who didn't exactly "pull his weight", but he did foment revolution, prosecuted wars and left behind him a record of atrocities and forever-lasting bitterness. Is that the guy? His flag was blue & white, not green, white & orange.

--47.139.xx.xxx




OTFlag Raising (by cjl'h [CT]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2018 11:41 AM
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Moishe,He's the one still is.His flag was Green White and Orange,got his training from the IRA,not the ira that Brad mentions here.,found that it worked, then went back to Palestine,That's why you have the Blue and White Flag now,the rest,as they say,is History... Salut Schlom. ......charlie............................................................ --174.199.x.xxx




OTFlag Raising (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2018 11:53 AM
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DJ, yes, the Stars and Stripes always has preferences and is flown at least a foot above all others.And on the right of the Podium, to the left of the Audience.At all times........charlie...................................................................Always...................And don't you ever forget it..................................................Oh! say Can you see?............ --174.199.x.xxx




OTFlag Raising (by Lynda [TX]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2018 1:06 PM
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Boys! Please be good or go to your rooms. --108.87.xx.xxx




OTFlag Raising (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2018 1:32 PM
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Lynda,Moishe ,she might not like having someone else in the room with her,maybe yes ,maybe no.....shin eye.............................charlie...................go raigh mait agut................................ --174.199.x.xxx




OTFlag Raising (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2018 1:47 PM
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Finished raining about an hour ago,rained all night and just ended at 3.30 here.Still raining in Boston.Patriots' Day also Boston Marathon .they got saturated,Whoever won,really deserved to.......I can hardly walk,let alone RUN............charlie.............................................. --174.199.x.xxx




OTFlag Raising (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2018 1:48 PM
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Funny, that guy is neither Catholic nor Protestant. Seems a little incongruous to assign him to white in the middle. He, of course, was not fighting for his freedom, but to take it away from others.

I didn't know that he was ever in Ireland. According to one biographer, he left Poland in 1906 at age 20, then joined the Ottoman army. He was deported from Palestine by the British to Egypt. After the end of WWI, he was allowed back in Palestine. He is known to be responsible for ordering numerous massacres of Palestinian villages, including Deir Yassin and Quibya and being caught in incredible lies to make excuses. Not exactly the kind of guy that you want to raise a flag to remember.

--47.139.xx.xxx




OTFlag Raising (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2018 2:01 PM
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May have to talk to that biographer and straighten him or her out,at least a little bit...there may not much time left....................................................cjo'H.............................................. --174.199.x.xxx




OTFlag Raising (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2018 2:25 PM
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Ben-Gurion was a great hero. I am unaware of any great palestinians. moshe probably needs to learn about arab atrocities. eye for an eye is sometimes what must be done. I think that is also in the koran... --104.218.xxx.xx




OTFlag Raising (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2018 3:32 PM
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Pmh,Don't know too much about the Koran or the Bible,you could be right.........chArlie.....

moishe could probably quote the Koran ,but not me...........................................Im Lucky if I remember something I saw in the 'Belfast Telegraph '..................................................it covers more than the papers here............................... --174.199.x.xxx




OTFlag Raising (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2018 3:33 PM
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Pmh:

Surely you are joking. Do you know anything about the situation?

Why don't look up some of the massacre sites, like Deir Yassin, or Quibya? or Tantura? Professor Ilan Pappe has cataloged 531 sites of Palestinian villages that were massacred and destroyed during Israel's expansion of territory in 1948-1949. The mode of operation, was to enter the village at 4 am, kill a few hundred civilians, and tell the rest that they must leave Palestine for Jordan immediately, on foot, or they, too, would be killed. As a result, 750,000 Palestinians were driven out, and the land added to Israel's territory.

Eye for an eye would mean that the Palestinians have a lot of eyes coming their way,

So you think that "I" have to learn. You purport to be an educated fellow: Heres a short bibliography (all by distinguished historians) of the situation, all based on the historical discoveries made starting in 1981 when Israel started to open their official archives:

1. Shlaim, Avi (2000), The Iron Wall: Israel and the Arab World, W. W. Norton & Company, New York & London; ISBN 978-0-393-34686-2

Avi Shlaim is Emeritus Professor of International Relations in the University of Oxford and a fellow of The British Academy.

2. Morris, Benny (1987), The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem, 1947-1949, Cambridge University Press, Cambridge; ISBN-0-521-33028-9

Benny Morris is Professor in the History of the Middle East Studies department of Ben-Gurion University of the Negev in Beersheva Israel. He received his doctorate from the University of Cambridge.

3. Pappe, Ilan (2006), The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, OneWorld Publications Limited; London ISBN 978-1-85168-555-4

Ilan Pappe holds the Chair in History at the University of Exeter. He received his doctorate from the University of Oxford.

4. Raz, Avi (2012) The Bride and The Dowery, Yale University Press; ISBN 978-9-300-17194-5

Avi Raz is an associate member of the Faculty of Oriental Studies, University of Oxford, and research fellow at Wolfson College, Oxford, specializing in the history of the modern Middle East with special emphasis on the Arab-Israeli conflict. He received his doctorate at the University of Oxford.

Dear fellow landlord Pmh: It is necessary to know something about which you are talking, in case you haven't noticed that change in the world's atmosphere regarding Israel since the publication of the contents of the archives. Israel is increasingly isolated in the world because of its attempts to conquer the area which the world long-ago agreed needed to be shared. Whether you are happy about it or sad, it is a fact, just as the former Israeli narrative has been shown to be not-a-fact.

--47.139.xx.xxx




OTFlag Raising (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2018 3:50 PM
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moshe. I would suggest you broaden your horizons & learning. difficult I know for some. --166.137.xxx.xx




OTFlag Raising (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2018 4:01 PM
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When I first posted ,Didn't know I would open such an array of historical information.Thank you all,.my nephew spent time in the Halls of Cambridge,but he just retired in Belfast,last year........................charlie......................shin E ulig...................................... agus. Marcie beau coup

......................................... --174.199.x.xxx




OTFlag Raising (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2018 4:09 PM
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moshe. thx for citations. one thing I know is that UK universities are now so pc that “changes” are now whatever the student current fad dictates...one thing I do know is my GF was part of Ike’s tours of the camps. He was on his staff. . Until that time no one believed what was happening despite proofs. sure there have been atrocities on both sides. But for you to begger the idiotic mantra that everything you believe as an arab is automatically true is just idiotic. btw: I have lived most of my life in the Middle East. maybe you should move back home....see how that goes for you.... --166.137.xxx.xx




OTFlag Raising (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2018 5:10 PM
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UK universities are not alone in recognizing what has happened in the Middle East. The consensus among peer reviewed scholarly journals is the same among journals from the US, UK, European countries and even Russian and Chinese universities: that the research is valid and draws the correct conclusions from authentic sources.

By the way, I never even used the word "Arab". I wrote exclusively about Israeli actions.

You are confusing WWII with the Israeli-Palestinian situation. Research has also shown that of about 3.5 million survivors of the Holocaust (including those who left Europe in the 1930s), only about 350,000 went to Israel (including those who went in the 1930s). It doesn't even take into account those that left Israel after arrival and decided not to stay. The majority of Israeli citizens came from other Middle Eastern countries, the largest contingent from Morocco.

You need to learn to think like a educated guy, how to seek out data and draw appropriate conclusions from them.

--47.139.xx.xxx




OTFlag Raising (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2018 5:18 PM
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Idiotic response. I know that freedom of thought or knowledge not dictated not something you are familiar with.

--97.94.xxx.xx




OTFlag Raising (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2018 5:41 PM
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Freedom of thought is better when you don't know anything about the subject?

You have the bibliography. If you decide to read these books, you can offer your own opinion about them.

--47.139.xx.xxx



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