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How best to handle this (by Jo [CT]) Apr 12, 2018 1:22 PM
       How best to handle this (by Moshe [CA]) Apr 12, 2018 1:31 PM
       How best to handle this (by Barb [MO]) Apr 12, 2018 1:46 PM
       How best to handle this (by Jo [CT]) Apr 12, 2018 1:57 PM
       How best to handle this (by NE [PA]) Apr 12, 2018 2:00 PM
       How best to handle this (by Barb [MO]) Apr 12, 2018 2:09 PM
       How best to handle this (by WMH [NC]) Apr 12, 2018 2:10 PM
       How best to handle this (by S i d [MO]) Apr 12, 2018 2:21 PM
       How best to handle this (by RR78 [VA]) Apr 12, 2018 2:24 PM
       How best to handle this (by John... [MI]) Apr 12, 2018 2:29 PM
       How best to handle this (by plenty [MO]) Apr 12, 2018 3:35 PM
       How best to handle this (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Apr 12, 2018 3:59 PM
       How best to handle this (by Jo [CT]) Apr 12, 2018 4:01 PM
       How best to handle this (by fred [CA]) Apr 12, 2018 4:17 PM
       How best to handle this (by Jo [CT]) Apr 12, 2018 4:55 PM
       How best to handle this (by cjo 'h [CT]) Apr 12, 2018 4:59 PM
       How best to handle this (by cjo'h [CT]) Apr 12, 2018 5:09 PM
       How best to handle this (by AllyM [NJ]) Apr 12, 2018 6:01 PM
       How best to handle this (by Jo [CT]) Apr 12, 2018 6:16 PM
       How best to handle this (by BOB [OR]) Apr 12, 2018 10:03 PM
       How best to handle this (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Apr 12, 2018 10:20 PM
       How best to handle this (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 12, 2018 11:42 PM
       How best to handle this (by plenty [MO]) Apr 13, 2018 5:31 AM
       How best to handle this (by plenty [MO]) Apr 13, 2018 5:35 AM
       How best to handle this (by plenty [MO]) Apr 13, 2018 5:35 AM
       How best to handle this (by John... [MI]) Apr 13, 2018 5:59 AM
       How best to handle this (by plenty [MO]) Apr 13, 2018 6:08 AM
       How best to handle this (by Jo [CT]) Apr 13, 2018 6:31 AM
       How best to handle this (by plenty [MO]) Apr 13, 2018 6:41 AM
       How best to handle this (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Apr 13, 2018 9:04 AM
       How best to handle this (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Apr 13, 2018 1:06 PM
       How best to handle this (by RR78 [VA]) Apr 13, 2018 2:04 PM
       How best to handle this (by Jo [CT]) Apr 13, 2018 3:31 PM
       How best to handle this (by cjo'h [CT]) Apr 13, 2018 3:38 PM
       How best to handle this (by cjo'h [CT]) Apr 13, 2018 3:48 PM

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How best to handle this (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 1:22 PM
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I have a 3 family house where i house students. I prefer students, like them and its worked out well for me.

First and second floor are 3 bedrooms, the third floor is 2. It's worked out best by just renting out single rooms, as over the last few years, it's hard to find 3 that want to room all together. I also do separate leases for everyone....this has worked well.

I'm careful with the wording of my ads. I state that all college students live in the building and I/they would "prefer" the same, or someone of college age.

I got a call from this guy yesterday who is a "senior," as he states, retired, writing a book, very quiet, clean, young at heart..... I said college kids lives don't mesh well with non college age people, again, being careful about what I said.

Today, he calls me back begging me to talk to the kids in the apartment to see if they would allow him to move in! I tell him that even though I own the building, the kids need to feel comfortable with their roommates and therefore, want someone of their own age.

He keeps asking, telling me how he stays up late writing, is clean, quiet, respectful, blah blah blah, please, just have them meet me, he says!

This guy was quite desperate! He is 78 yrs old. I have young females in the apartment! No way!

So, any thoughts on wording to him so he doesn't sue me for discrimination?! --32.215.xxx.xxx




How best to handle this (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 1:31 PM
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You know, of course, that you really ARE discriminating on the basis of age.

--47.139.xx.xx




How best to handle this (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 1:46 PM
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Does he wish to rent the two bedroom unit on his own? That would be an easy solution, since then he would not have the shared space with the college age girls.

I'm with you, no way would I move a 78 year old man into an apartment with 2 college girls. Absolutely no way! The girls would be out of there faster than their coffee makers can make a cup!

I'd email the girls - do they have a friend or aquaintance who is interested in the room? Let them know you have interest from non-college people, and you want to give them the opportunity to find a suite-mate first. --131.151.xx.xx




How best to handle this (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 1:57 PM
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Barb, my ad states college aged person and I do have a few working kids, but they are all around the same age.

Why on earth would a 78 yr old man want to live with college kids! He has no offensive record as I have checked. He said my room prices are in his price range, close to downtown and all immenities.

He doesn't like his present place...alluded to not a great LL. --32.215.xxx.xxx




How best to handle this (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 2:00 PM
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If it's dedicated student housing and has a probable history, how could it be discriminating? --50.107.xxx.xx




How best to handle this (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 2:09 PM
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Price and location is his reason. If they keep telling hours my college students keep, he'd want to move out as fast as he can once he got in there.

I would say that since it is a shared space, you are not comfortable mixing people who are quite that drastically different. --64.251.xxx.xxx




How best to handle this (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 2:10 PM
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In NC (and by federal law) it is NOT illegal to discriminate on age, unless you are excluding kids under 18. I was shocked to learn this but it's true. Check your state laws. --50.82.xxx.xx




How best to handle this (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 2:21 PM
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Not illegal to discriminate based on age, except insofar as it pertains to familiar status (i.e. children), unless CT prohibits it.

Federal law states: "The FHA, to date, includes seven protected classes: race, color, religion, national origin, sex, disability, and familial status. This last term refers to the presence of at least one child under 18 years old, and also protects prospects and tenants who are pregnant or in the process of adopting a child."

Or, if you still feel uneasy...block his number/email. Aaaaand done! --173.17.xx.xx




How best to handle this (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 2:24 PM
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And then you have condo's that will only rent to 55 and over and no kids allowed.

Why not get some feedback from the existing tenants. Dont see much difference with the girls living with younger guys anyway. If he stayed to himself and was quite.

Could it help discourage parties or drugs min the house.

--73.152.xx.xxx




How best to handle this (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 2:29 PM
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Note that CT is one of the states that does not allow age discrimination in housing. So, from my quick reading, denying him would likely be illegal discrimination.

I do not know if they allow "dedicated student housing" or not as suggested above. My guess is that they do not, but I'm not an expert on CT law. But people in CT should be. :)

- John...

--24.180.xxx.xxx




How best to handle this (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 3:35 PM
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How about this... He asked for quite and keep to himself. The other people living there are not quite nor do they keep to themselves! --99.203.xx.xxx




How best to handle this (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 3:59 PM
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See how the 55 and over laws relate in your state. As RR78 mentioned, there are laws on the books to allow you to not rent to a youth for an elderly community.

Can you find another reason to reject? See if students can rush someone in before his app is approved. He's not going to like his surroundings and will probably create trouble for the rest. I can see how the first party will go. However, having an elderly gentleman there may calm down the youths. Or, maybe he likes the idea of living with two young college girls. --108.69.xxx.xxx




How best to handle this (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 4:01 PM
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There is probably not anything legal called "dedicated student housing". The present kids living there would not feel comfortable with him. It just doesnt work.

They aren't the destructive party type of kids, so his precense wouldn't matter. It's just not feasable. I have a college sophmore looking at one of the rooms tomorrow. If she thought he would live there, she would probably run!

--32.215.xxx.xxx




How best to handle this (by fred [CA]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 4:17 PM
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My advice: Talk to a local LL-Tenant lawyer. --99.59.x.xxx




How best to handle this (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 4:55 PM
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He has not seen the apartment, i haven't met him, and there is no application given out.

I hope he doesn't persist in calling me, but I can always not answer his calls.

--32.215.xxx.xxx




How best to handle this (by cjo 'h [CT]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 4:59 PM
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Jo, you and I have corresponded here on this forum before.we used to have student housing,doesn't matter what the law says,there is no way,we would mix students with working people,Incidentally I'm well over 78,but that's beside the issue.You know the blue folder over to the left on the thingamajigs,put the application there,and leave it,and don't correspond with him again.He can write his book elsewhere,may be a bestseller,but you don't have to be part of it..............charlie in New Haven...........Edgewood park......................................... --174.199.xx.xx




How best to handle this (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 5:09 PM
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Jo, anybody who badmouths their landlord should be left on the street...............cjo'h......without even a newspaper over them.................no sympathy...................................................I'm just warming up some Lasagna,want some................ --174.199.xx.xx




How best to handle this (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 6:01 PM
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In my area in NJ we are allowed to have only college students share a house like that. Otherwise it's a rooming house and they are not allowed in residential neighborhoods.

He must have some kind of ulterior motive since no one in their right mind would want to live in a house full of students. I would stop answering the phone otherwise you may have to provide an application and find some reason to decline. What is/was his occupation?

Just don't answer when his number appears. --69.141.xxx.xxx




How best to handle this (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 6:16 PM
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Charlie....would I like some lasagna? Of course, I'm Italian!!! --32.215.xxx.xxx




How best to handle this (by BOB [OR]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 10:03 PM
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I wouldn't rent to him. the girls would feel very uncomfortable with an older man there? I have rooms and the guys make jokes all the time wish I'd bring in some hot young thing for them to look at. I don't find it particularly funny, but there's some truth in their fantansy. maybe he want to write about living with college girls? who know, I wouldnt want my college age daughter living with some older guy. normal running around in PJs is out for sure.

if he's writing a book, he may not have proof of actual income?

but easily don't answer his calls. I once had a guy kept calling me so I saved him temp. in my address book on my phone under crazy guy don't answer, so when he rang, I knew it was him. now I block them, so I dont even hear it ring. if he calls from another number, what...what.. hello...hellooo. I can't hear you...hello, are you there...hello... CLICK. just saying...

if something happens and suddenly you feel that you have to show him and give an application, which I wouldn't, he'll need a positive reference from that bad LLc he's currently renting from... well, gee whiz... shucks, can't get a positve reference, can't rent from you...

--173.90.x.xxx




How best to handle this (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 10:20 PM
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You cannot deny him because he is a male and in CT their state laws do not allow age discrimination.

The reference to senior housing is entirely different in that the rules and regulations are part of their charter specifically requires at least 1 occupant be 55+ in each unit up to a minimum of 80 or 90% of the units.

You are between a rock and a hard place. Personally, I wouldn't want to challenge this in CT where the stakes are very high if he decides to file a discrimination case.

As for our concern for the young girls I assume each room has a lock on the door. You may want to insist that he takes both rooms on the top floor.

--71.75.xx.xx




How best to handle this (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Apr 12, 2018 11:42 PM
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Jo,

Are girls and boys mixed in the buidling? Id be more worried about teenage boys in the house than a 78 yo man.

So group him with some guys?

Not sure but does your town allow student housing to segregate by sex?

Can your criteria require the res be a student?

BRAD

--68.51.xx.xxx




How best to handle this (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2018 5:31 AM
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Right now... Record his name in your contacts as DONOT Answer.

Perhaps you should answer and say "I have an application that i am working to approve. But you are welcome to look at the apartment and apply. The fee is $$ i can show unit at 1pm today"

You may be being tested for discrimination. He won't show to the appointment and he won't pay the $50 application fee to stand in line.

Roll the dice.

But you are smart to avoid but for the right reasons. All the college kid's have cosigners? Then he needs one too. All the college kids have... He needs that too. --99.203.xx.xxx




How best to handle this (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2018 5:35 AM
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For a few pizzas those nice kids could put on a pretty good THIS isn't the place for you show during that visit... Ha! Let me show you why you can't write here!

There was something recently on the news about a college trying to get a former student out. She just kept living there after college. She makes good money but choose to live like this in one room. Not sure what state but it's the new thing to do. Old people Downsize to die. Maybe they got it right? --99.203.xx.xxx




How best to handle this (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2018 5:35 AM
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For a few pizzas those nice kids could put on a pretty good THIS isn't the place for you show during that visit... Ha! Let me show you why you can't write here!

There was something recently on the news about a college trying to get a former student out. She just kept living there after college. She makes good money but choose to live like this in one room. Not sure what state but it's the new thing to do. Old people Downsize to die. Maybe they got it right? --99.203.xx.xxx




How best to handle this (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2018 5:59 AM
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NC INVESTOR: Thanks for being a voice of reason in here.

The number of landlords in this thread suggesting that discrimination laws just be IGNORED is amazing to me...

- John...

--24.180.xxx.xxx




How best to handle this (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2018 6:08 AM
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You wrote: He has not seen the apartment, i haven't met him, and there is no application given out.

I hope he doesn't persist in calling me, but I can always not answer.

But if you do these things for the college girl (showw apartment, met her, give out application) and not for this guy then you have made their case for discrimination.

All welcome.- post that by your desk. --99.203.xx.xxx




How best to handle this (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2018 6:31 AM
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Brad, yes, the apartments are co-ed, but again all are young.

Hopefully he will go away. I gave him a number of another LL friend of mine that has a rooming house at a reasonable price close to my place and when he called yesterday i asked him if he had called my friend and he said no, my place interested him. --32.215.xxx.xxx




How best to handle this (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2018 6:41 AM
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Re read all post above. You are still saying "young" and he is old. Dance around it but ALL Welcome. --99.203.xx.xxx




How best to handle this (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2018 9:04 AM
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Have you considered that it is the fact that he can be around younger people that is his real attraction and not some salacious motive? Many active older people enjoy being around younger kids today. And based on my limited experience, I've notice that my millennial nieces and nephews have an affinity and respect for older adults much like the Europeans and Asians.

I read an article several months ago that one of the reasons the elderly in different cultures live so long and enjoy lower levels of depression and dementia is their connection with multi-generations.

--71.75.xx.xx




How best to handle this (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2018 1:06 PM
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JOHN: Ignoring discrimination laws appears to trending here this week. I've seen several posts on here about ESA and age, etc. where many are trying find a way around the law. I do understand the indignation when tenants don't follow the rules but it is what it is. But making the wrong decision could be a high risk reward scenario I'm not willing to gamble on.

--71.75.xx.xx




How best to handle this (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2018 2:04 PM
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Yes it has been shown. You hang around young people you will feel younger.

And of course the stats show it would be very much safer for the girls living with a typical 78 year old compared to 20 year old males. --73.152.xx.xxx




How best to handle this (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2018 3:31 PM
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NC yes, its fine to want to spend time with older people, but to live with them????

I showed the room to a student today, she is preparing the application now.

I did speak with one of the students there about the situation with the older guy and he wrinkled his nose and said no way, so I have the vote! --32.215.xxx.xxx




How best to handle this (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2018 3:38 PM
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RR78, your theory of older people being in the company of younger people doesn't seem to have much merit,my children and grandchildren often visit,and I still feel old,as a matter of fact I am,and I don't want to do anything.So where did you get that wild thought. And now that you brought it up,where is his family and why doesn't he own his own house, after all be is 78. Jo the Lasagna was good,sorry you're so far away.If you're ever on RT 10 near the Hamden/Cheshire line just across from The Mount Carmel Golf Course .There's Sergios,They make great Pizza.Better than the ones on Wooster Street.He arrived here around the same time as I did,and started up a few years later.Doing good.......charlie

................................................................. --174.199.x.xxx




How best to handle this (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2018 3:48 PM
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NC, from Charlotte,you say you can't deny him, just watch me..............................................charlie................................................................................ --174.199.x.xxx



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