Criteria (by Smokowna [MD]) Mar 13, 2018 6:48 AM|
Criteria (by David [MI]) Mar 13, 2018 6:55 AM
Criteria (by Ken [NY]) Mar 13, 2018 7:12 AM
Criteria (by Smokowna [MD]) Mar 13, 2018 8:13 AM
Criteria (by Tom [FL]) Mar 13, 2018 8:24 AM
Criteria (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Mar 13, 2018 12:20 PM
Criteria (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Mar 13, 2018 12:31 PM
Criteria (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Mar 13, 2018 12:35 PM
Criteria (by J [FL]) Mar 13, 2018 12:57 PM
Criteria (by Wilma [PA]) Mar 14, 2018 8:34 AM
Criteria (by Smokowna [MD]) Mar 14, 2018 7:20 PM
Criteria (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Mar 15, 2018 9:34 AM
Criteria (by Smokowna [MD]) Mar 16, 2018 8:09 AM
Criteria (by Smokowna [MD]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2018 6:48 AM
If you have a list of criteria the applicant needs to meet, and this list is in your pocket but not visible to the prospective tenant.
Can you use items on the list to disqualify the tenant?
For example. If you have on your list that should the prospective teni make a lower priced offer on the home you are renting - their application will be submitted after all full price applications are considered.
Because what if you know of or expect to have a full price offer delivered to you in one week's time.
(I'm entering gray area on purpose).
How about if their children are not behaving well. Say they slammed a door and you listed this behavior on your criteria point. (i.e. Opening closets, leaving the parent so to explore on their own, pulling the potted plants etc).
I made all of this up, My question is whether the teni need to know your criteria before they view your home? --108.48.xx.xxx
Criteria (by David [MI]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2018 6:55 AM
"My question is whether the teni need to know your criteria before they view your home?" I do not post my criteria. The more they know , they will be able to evade your questions and lie on the application.
I prescreen on the phone with a few straightforward questions?
YES/NO? foreclosure, bk, shortsale, eviction, repo
how many adults?
Pets? Breed and weight ?
Income amt and source?
"If you have on your list that should the prospective teni make a lower priced offer on the home you are renting - their application will be submitted after all full price applications are considered." I don't understand what you mean by this. If a tenant tries to negotiate on the rent, I tell them I MAY be able to provide a discount after processing the app. If they still want to apply, I will process their app as normal. I stay in control as to whether I agree to their lower rent negotiation --12.47.xx.xxx
Criteria (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2018 7:12 AM
I don't tell my applicants what my criteria is,i think it just defeats the purpose.I don't charge an app fee so that may make a difference.I do have my criteria in writing and signed and notarized so I can ocument when that became my criteria --72.231.xxx.xxx
Criteria (by Smokowna [MD]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2018 8:13 AM
Signed and motorized. That is a great idea.
I wasn't clear when I asked.
I want to be able to disqualify anyone who offers less for the rental. I'm specifically addressing the people who make offers and not the people who ask whether there are lower priced options.
I would like to simply put them to the back of the line behind other applications.
Thanks for the reply, I understood your response. --108.48.xx.xxx
Criteria (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2018 8:24 AM
If the produce you are offering, the unit is in excellent shape in an excellent location and you are asking the highest market rent. THEN WHY discount the unit or make excuses for it or more so let the tenant make excuses for it. IF the tenant can not afford the unit go to the NEXT APPLICANT...
...Unless your rental pool market is an issue then maybe discount...
...Or location is less than desirable??? High Crime Area? High traffic/noise area??? Poorly maintained neighborhood???
Criteria (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2018 12:20 PM
You get two different types of tenants asking if you will reduce the rent. One can't afford the rent and that one will screen out on income and/or debt load.
The other is very careful with money and feels it never hurts to ask. I've seen more than one tenant forum advise the tenants to always negotiate for lower rent. That applicant, I might accept. Careful with money is a really good trait in a tenant. Constant haggling is not a good trait. So, that one depends upon screening.
Criteria (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2018 12:31 PM
I just tell them that I know what is available on the market and I know what rents are, and I think my price is good. They always agree with me.
For my son's rentals, I tell them that he might reduce rent by $25 a month for a really good tenant with good credit, enough income, and excellent landlord references. That's usually the end of it.
Different policies. My son is willing to get a little less rent for a trouble-free tenant. My policy is that I get full market rent now and don't raise, or raise really slowly, for an excellent tenant that I don't want to move out. If I am not raising rent, I don't want to start behind, so full market rent when the tenant moves in. --174.216.x.xxx
Criteria (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2018 12:35 PM
Veering slightly off topic, I automatically reject any hopeful who asks if they can paint my house that already has nice condition paint. That applicant doesn't understand who owns the house. --174.216.x.xxx
Criteria (by J [FL]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2018 12:57 PM
Oregon, I don't like that either. If they ask once and drop the issue when I say no I overlook it but if people get pushy about alterations I decline them.
I once had someone come and not only wanted to paint but put in a chandelier? I don't understand why someone who's renting thinks those are reasonable request. --72.188.xxx.xx
Criteria (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2018 8:34 AM
The two examples that you gave are typical of people who will in general not pass screening. I've found that asking for a reduction usually means that they either can't prove income or are paid under the table. And having kids who tear around unsupervised usually go hand in hand with people who "need a place really quickly", don't fully fill out the application, have a cousin who might be there a weekend or two a month, etc.
Yes, have your written criteria. I have no issues with telling the people who want a reduction that they are free to submit the application, but that you have other prospects and will give first preference to the applicants who are prepared to pay the full rental amount and who pass screening.
But I'd be really careful about kids - other than something quantifiable like property destruction during the tour, you'll have to scrutinize the rest of the app, plus do the old foot dragging act ("I'm sorry, we had a family emergency that made for a delay in processing your application" - they don't need to know that it was nothing more than a hangnail or a drippy faucet.)
(I still shudder when I think about the preschooler who raced around the empty house, slamming his hands into walls to stop himself. His last stop was when he hit the kitchen window - praise God that it didn't break! That's when Mom finally reeled him in.) --71.175.xxx.xxx
Criteria (by Smokowna [MD]) Posted on: Mar 14, 2018 7:20 PM
In the case of the paint question. So if I have an automatic decline established in my criteria for "asking to paint".
If this is in my criteria and not shown ahead of time you understand this to be okay....within the rules?
thank you very very much.
Post Script. I do not have a tenant asking, this is a question about how to treat criteria and who can or can not see it. --108.48.xx.xxx
Criteria (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2018 9:34 AM
You could put "tenant must agree to abide by the terms of the lease" and then have "no painting or modifying" in the lease.
But yes, you can put it into your criteria that you will reject for asking to paint. Amateur painters are not a protected class.
No one sees my criteria until after they have been interviewed, so they aren't being warned about what to say. I give the criteria at the same time they are handed the application. --174.216.xx.xx
Criteria (by Smokowna [MD]) Posted on: Mar 16, 2018 8:09 AM