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Buy House Lsit (by LeePookie [IN]) Mar 12, 2018 3:27 PM
       Buy House Lsit (by NE [PA]) Mar 12, 2018 3:44 PM
       Buy House Lsit (by BillS [CO]) Mar 12, 2018 3:50 PM
       Buy House Lsit (by LeePookie [IN]) Mar 12, 2018 3:53 PM
       Buy House Lsit (by Deanna [TX]) Mar 12, 2018 4:02 PM
       Buy House Lsit (by NE [PA]) Mar 12, 2018 4:07 PM
       Buy House Lsit (by Ken [NY]) Mar 12, 2018 4:16 PM
       Buy House Lsit (by Vee [OH]) Mar 12, 2018 6:05 PM
       Buy House Lsit (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 12, 2018 8:40 PM
       Buy House Lsit (by LeePookie [IN]) Mar 13, 2018 3:33 AM
       Buy House Lsit (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Mar 13, 2018 11:59 AM
       Buy House Lsit (by BillS [CO]) Mar 13, 2018 8:26 PM

Buy House Lsit (by LeePookie [IN]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2018 3:27 PM

Has anyone purchased a house list before?

I looked at some of Jim Ingersol's videos online. He mentioned purchasing a buyers list of non-owner occupied houses.

Just thought I would ask the board.

Buy House Lsit (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2018 3:44 PM

Where would they get the info that you couldn't easily get yourself?

It has to be local or localized to where you invest. Go to your courthouse.

I got a list of vacant properties in one town by writing a letter to the town secretary and demanding it.

Buy House Lsit (by BillS [CO]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2018 3:50 PM

If your county has it's records online, then there are a number of ways to get these lists. Often a local title company can pull a list of non-owner occupied homes in a given geographic area. You can use that list to do a mail merge and mail to the owners. There are online sources of data which offer more ways to slice the data. For example I use a company called listsource (you can google them). I recently built a list of non-owner occupied properties where the owner was over 65 and the property value was greater than $600k.

Direct mail is a great way to find motivated sellers that have far fewer competing buyers than those listed in the local MLS.

Buy House Lsit (by LeePookie [IN]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2018 3:53 PM

I was looking at ListSource BillS. For what I wanted, I didn't think the cost was vary much.

NE - I thought of stopping in the courthouse to check o see if they could do it there. I wold like to stay anonymous

Buy House Lsit (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2018 4:02 PM

What I normally do is drive around my target area, and keep track of what looks uninhabited/neglected. This is an especially good time of year to do it, when everyone else on the block has mowed their grass for the first time this year, but there's that one empty house that keeps on sitting vacant. :) I mark down its address; I look it up in the appraisal district; and if the information I get make it look like an out-of-town owner with an unwanted house, I'll send off a little handwritten card.

I don't worry about non-occupied houses in general, because presumably, if someone's paying the taxes on it and it's not for sale, it's wanted. If someone's not paying the taxes on it-- it's for sale cheaper on the courthouse steps than it would be to go through an owner who doesn't just want out from under it, but doesn't want to let it go for less than what the house is worth in his imagination.

Buy House Lsit (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2018 4:07 PM

I've had ab Attorney pull lists of out of state owners before. You can select different township's and criteria, etc.

I also keep an active list in my phone of places I see vacant while I'm driving around and go in once a week or so and get the owners info. They then go on my mailing list. I've got some my best deals that way.

I pull the owner info myself, so the ladies in the office don't know what I'm doing. I also exit out of all the programs before I leave so incase someone sits down after me, they don't know what I was looking at.

Probate and pre-foreclosure lists are good to get while you're there.

I've been having good response to "we buy houses" ads on placements at restaurants too. 30,000 placemat for $200 or so with my ad staring them in the face while they eat. That's how I got my $3,500 3 unit last summer.

Personally, I'd rather create my own list with properties I've found myself than waste time mailing dozens or even hundreds of letters to places that are of no interest to me.

Here's a tidbit!! I ordered 1,500 post cards last time I got them. Yesterday I was looking at the box and saw that it was half gone already. I thought to myself, well this 1,500 box of postcards HAS to generate me AT LEAST $150,000! So I figured that each postcard I send is $100 in my pocket in the future. So just yesterday, I started tracking how many I send. Yesterday I sent 25 cards, so that's $2,500 in my pocket sometime in the future. I'm doing another 31 tonight, so now I'm up to $5,600 in future income. Of the dozens and dozens I send out, maybe one pays off!! It's just a little tracking motivator.

Al Williamson said in St. Louis 2 years ago that in all labor there is profit!!! He didn't say when it would show up though!! :)

Buy House Lsit (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2018 4:16 PM

I have bought lists before but I seem to do better with the ones I create on my own.I mail tax delinquent,mortgage assignments,often they happen after someone stopped paying there mortgage,i mail to notices in my paper for houses that will have water turned off in a week etc.Letters with a card work better than postcards for me since people can save the card but I have never seen a postcard saved.Deanna,first mowing? I have 2 feet of snow on my lawn still and 8-12 inches coming tonight

Buy House Lsit (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2018 6:05 PM

With my county I can search for fannie, freddie, as well as the banks that forclose at the county sale held weekly, just a bit of time in front of the computer.

Buy House Lsit (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2018 8:40 PM

Lee & Pookie,

If you promise to not buy in MY county Iíll tell how to get a free mailing list!

DIY: go to your countyís GIS and click on each property of interest. It will show the owner and the mailing address.

Every seminar says to handwrite the addresses for a better opening rate.


Buy House Lsit (by LeePookie [IN]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2018 3:33 AM

Brad, we have done that in the past (you're safe lol) but didn't know if it would save time to get a list instead of looking each property up

Buy House Lsit (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2018 11:59 AM

The problem with lists is that everyone has the same list. Deanna has the right idea, create your own list. Find the neighborhoods you want to focus on and look at the houses in those neighborhoods.

Be the first to send a letter, not one of the many to solicit an owner.

Buy House Lsit (by BillS [CO]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2018 8:26 PM

Time is money. Hire out the searching the lists on the GIS. Driving for dollars takes time. Hire a college or high school student to do that. Spend some time teaching them what to look for. Custom lists produce the best results. Targeted and specialties mailings produce the best results. That said, those doing large volume don't fool with building targeted lists they just mail as many as possible very consistently (1x per month). The best lists come from those properties showing up on multiple lists. For example evictions and code enforcement, divorce and vacant property, or tax delinquent and absentee owner. I have one list that is about 300 which is constantly rolling and over a year I will buy one property. Awesome results but nothing I can make a living from. I need 20 such lists but they don't exist. If you want volume you have to take more of the carpet bombing approach. Driving for dollars is only for those whose time has low value.

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