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Taxes (by Peter [NH]) Feb 18, 2018 6:08 AM
       Taxes (by Peter [NH]) Feb 18, 2018 6:11 AM
       Taxes (by Dave [MO]) Feb 18, 2018 6:20 AM
       Taxes (by Frank [NJ]) Feb 18, 2018 10:13 AM
       Taxes (by Robert J [CA]) Feb 18, 2018 11:04 AM
       Taxes (by razorback_tim [AR]) Feb 18, 2018 11:49 AM
       Taxes (by WMH [NC]) Feb 18, 2018 12:12 PM
       Taxes (by LindaJ [NY]) Feb 18, 2018 12:22 PM
       Taxes (by LindaJ [NY]) Feb 18, 2018 12:33 PM
       Taxes (by Peter [NH]) Feb 18, 2018 1:20 PM
       Taxes (by plenty [MO]) Feb 18, 2018 2:59 PM
       Taxes (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Feb 19, 2018 10:18 AM
       Taxes (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Feb 19, 2018 10:29 AM
       Taxes (by Peter [NH]) Feb 19, 2018 5:28 PM
       Taxes (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Feb 22, 2018 6:46 PM


Taxes (by Peter [NH]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2018 6:08 AM
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To leverage or not ? I am 54 and considering downsizing to about 48 decent condos that I already own and have remodeled. I could have no debt on them. Free and clear. Right now my LTV is 20%. Any thoughts on this strategy pros and cons?

(Or have I been listening way too much to Dave Ramsey lately:) ha ha) --73.61.xx.xxx




Taxes (by Peter [NH]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2018 6:11 AM
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Whoops the Title of that should have been "To leverage or not". --73.61.xx.xxx




Taxes (by Dave [MO]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2018 6:20 AM
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Debt free properties cash flow the best. My short answer is yes, if you have the means to pay off the debt, pay it off and watch the bank account grow.

Congrats to you. --72.24.xx.xx




Taxes (by Frank [NJ]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2018 10:13 AM
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debt free can be great and saves the cost of sleeping pills.

Might there not still be tax advantages to some debt? Perhaps a consult with your tax pro [and examining YOUR specific profile] would be a good step in formulating a plan --74.105.xxx.xx




Taxes (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2018 11:04 AM
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You are doing well. Most of my investor friends make one large mistake. After doing all of the right things like keeping the property's that are well maintained and will give them years of trouble free ownership, pay down the loans -- the investors have their property's in a single area, not spread out to limit risk. An earthquake, major flood, storm or tornado can wipe out a portfolio in minutes.

When I was buying homes in the Canoga Park, West Hills and Woodland Hills area of the San Fernando Valley, an earthquake hit in 1994 that took out neighborhoods nearby. On friend that invested in apartment buildings with his two brothers were wiped out because his buildings were in one area and mostly on one block. From each brother being worth 3 million back in 1994, in today's dollars that's 10 million, they only had their personal residents left -- everything else became worthless..... --47.156.xx.xx




Taxes (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2018 11:49 AM
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Leverage is good for growth. If you are out of growth mode and are able to pay your existing debt off, you will be sitting in really good shape to weather pretty much any storm in the housing market. Plus you will be in position to hire management/admin/repairs and have truly passive income. I'm in favor of having paid off properties. --70.178.x.xx




Taxes (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2018 12:12 PM
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We do love having paid off properties.

I think you've got to be a tiny bit careful not to get complacent when you have vacancies though...We have two units that should have been rented months ago (years, on one of them) but because they are free and clear, their rehabs keep getting put on the back burner as other more pressing issues come up (water, snow, hurricanes, turnovers, etc.) Trouble is, we don't miss the income because they've never been rented, but shame on us! --50.82.xxx.xx




Taxes (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2018 12:22 PM
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Debt free is my way. The best thing we did years ago was build a house that we could afford and met our needs with cash. We had to give up a few things we would have liked, but we wanted it paid for. I did not have to deal with the bank's timeline, requirements etc. Never missed those things I thought I wanted.

From then we were able to save like crazy because we do not pay interest. So we could buy some investment properties, tractor, barn, truck, plane etc after quickly saving for them. Slept well at night. Don't worry or get stressed about whether I can spend for an upgrade, how long it is vacant, when it is. I also know how many rentals I can manage, and want. That is the way I like to live, your mileage may vary. --96.236.xx.xx




Taxes (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2018 12:33 PM
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Thoughts on the tax issues of debt... Yes, it is deductible, but if you were not paying the interest, you get to keep it. You might have to pay taxes on it, but you still get to keep more than paying on debt. As much as I hate the tax bills, even if it is half of what I make and I get to keep half, I am still ahead. Now is that half I get to keep worth the time and effort to make is another story. --96.236.xx.xx




Taxes (by Peter [NH]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2018 1:20 PM
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Well what bugs me is in order to pay off my mortgages i will have to pay Uncle Sam about 250k in capital gains and recap of depreciation but in the big picture I would have less units to manage (and less income). I need to weigh pros and cons and talk to some people who have been in a similar situation. Thanks:) --174.192.x.xxx




Taxes (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2018 2:59 PM
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Lots to consider. I would look at it from a time perspective. It's going to happen but when? Talk to your tax preparer and estate planning person and read some online, books, on this sight.... When not if. --99.203.x.xxx




Taxes (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2018 10:18 AM
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There is no single answer. It all depends on your situation. For me staying leveraged has been a major tax advantage. I haven't paid any taxes in the past 10 years on any of my other businesses or stock market cap gains.

I'm about to sell some properties and without the leverage my recapture and cap gains tax hit would be huge but due to the carryback rule it won't require me to pay any taxes out of pocket.

However, the new tax law effective does have some changes the NOL carryback rule and NOL usage is partially limited to 80% so I need to revisit my entire approach to using leverage to offset taxes. --71.75.xx.xx




Taxes (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2018 10:29 AM
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PETER: Why do you think you will have to pay cap gains and recapture by paying off your mortgages? They only come in to play when you sell the properties. --71.75.xx.xx




Taxes (by Peter [NH]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2018 5:28 PM
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Sorry for confusion. I have 16 other units in other locations and these are the ones I am considering selling. 12 of these have my only mortgages. I really do appreciate the feedback:) --73.61.xx.xxx




Taxes (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2018 6:46 PM
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You are in your mid 50's so you have time to get your units paid off. No sense giving Uncle Sam a penny more than you have too.

If your units were all paid off today - how would it change your life today? Sure having them all free and clear is the target, but no since paying that much extra taxes so you can cash flow that much more - and pay more taxes on that money too --24.101.xxx.xxx





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