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must pay 6.7m for graffit (by Tony [NJ]) Feb 17, 2018 11:03 AM
       must pay 6.7m for graffit (by NE [PA]) Feb 17, 2018 11:23 AM
       must pay 6.7m for graffit (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Feb 17, 2018 12:37 PM
       must pay 6.7m for graffit (by John... [MI]) Feb 17, 2018 12:45 PM
       must pay 6.7m for graffit (by AllyM [NJ]) Feb 17, 2018 2:30 PM
       must pay 6.7m for graffit (by Vee [OH]) Feb 17, 2018 3:21 PM
       must pay 6.7m for graffit (by Cacique [NJ]) Feb 17, 2018 3:32 PM
       must pay 6.7m for graffit (by LiveTheDream [AZ]) Feb 17, 2018 3:56 PM
       must pay 6.7m for graffit (by Jim in O C [C]) Feb 18, 2018 4:12 AM
       must pay 6.7m for graffit (by WMH [NC]) Feb 18, 2018 6:23 AM
       must pay 6.7m for graffit (by WMH [NC]) Feb 18, 2018 6:25 AM
       must pay 6.7m for graffit (by Chris [CT]) Feb 18, 2018 1:34 PM
       must pay 6.7m for graffit (by plenty [MO]) Feb 18, 2018 3:52 PM
       must pay 6.7m for graffit (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Feb 18, 2018 11:19 PM
       must pay 6.7m for graffit (by John... [MI]) Feb 19, 2018 5:54 AM
       must pay 6.7m for graffit (by Kyle [IN]) Feb 19, 2018 9:24 AM
       must pay 6.7m for graffit (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Feb 19, 2018 10:12 AM
       must pay 6.7m for graffit (by WMH [NC]) Feb 19, 2018 10:52 AM


must pay 6.7m for graffit (by Tony [NJ]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2018 11:03 AM
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Judge orders property owner to pay 21 graffiti artists $6.7 million for covering up their murals

www theblaze com 1 min read

What’s going on?

A property owner who painted over dozens of murals on a building he owned in Long Island City has now been told to pay $6.7 million to the graffiti artists by a Brooklyn judge.

Catch me up:

Lawyers for the 21 graffiti artists in the unusual case argued that the murals were protected under the Visual Artists Rights Act, a law used to shield public art of “recognized stature” even when it’s created on someone’s else property, the New York Times reported.

Wait … so the vandals won? How does that work?

A civil jury found that Jerry Wolkoff, owner of the 5Pointz complex, broke the law by painting over the murals in 2013. Judge Frederick Block ruled that 45 of the dozens of whitewashed-over murals had enough artistic merit to be protected under VARA and awarded the artists the maximum in damages.

Jeffy shared this story on today’s show, and Doc was not happy to hear about a property owner’s rights being violated.

“I hate this, absolutely, it’s his building. He can do what he wants,” Doc said. “This is asinine.”

To see more from Doc, visit his channel on TheBlaze and listen live to “The Morning Blaze with Doc Thompson” weekdays 6 a.m. – 9 a.m. ET, only on TheBlaze Radio Network.

A property owner who painted over dozens of murals on a building he owned in Long Island City has now been told to pay $6.7 million to the graffiti artists by a Brooklyn judge.

Catch me up:

Lawyers for the 21 graffiti artists in the unusual case argued that the murals were protected under the Visual Artists Rights Act, a law used to shield public art of “recognized stature” even when it’s created on someone’s else property, the New York Times reported.

Wait … so the vandals won? How does that work?

A civil jury found that Jerry Wolkoff, owner of the 5Pointz complex, broke the law by painting over the murals in 2013. Judge Frederick Block ruled that 45 of the dozens of whitewashed-over murals had enough artistic merit to be protected under VARA and awarded the artists the maximum in damages.

Jeffy shared this story on today’s show, and Doc was not happy to hear about a property owner’s rights being violated.

“I hate this, absolutely, it’s his building. He can do what he wants,” Doc said. “This is asinine.”

To see more from Doc, visit his channel on TheBlaze and listen live to “The Morning Blaze with Doc Thompson” weekdays 6 a.m. – 9 a.m. ET, only on TheBlaze Radio Network. --73.195.xxx.xxx




must pay 6.7m for graffit (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2018 11:23 AM
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How did the vandals win? Modern America. --50.107.xxx.xxx




must pay 6.7m for graffit (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2018 12:37 PM
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This country has gone crazy. --174.216.x.xxx




must pay 6.7m for graffit (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2018 12:45 PM
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The real problem here is that the Federal VARA law does not define "recognized stature" and, so far, no case law has either really.

This situation is insane. Basically, if those graffiti artists now have "recognized stature", they could literally go paint on ANYTHING and it couldn't be legally destroyed.

The law was intended to protect artists that create works to protect them down the road later after they have sold the work, for example. It was not intended to protect works created basically illegally in the first place.

This is one of those situations where the landlord should show how crazy this is by paying some artist with "recognized stature" to spray-paint graffiti on the judge's car or house. He might be fined for the damage -- but, technically, the judge shouldn't be able to remove it! ;)

- John...

--216.176.x.xx




must pay 6.7m for graffit (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2018 2:30 PM
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Lawyers and judge are as stupid as the graffiti makers. I refuse to call them artists. I own art and it's not art. It's a visual attack on the viewer. --73.33.xxx.xxx




must pay 6.7m for graffit (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2018 3:21 PM
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Guess they get to paint city hall and the courthouses, all protected? Why not get them to paint a fire engine and the police cars too? --76.188.xxx.xx




must pay 6.7m for graffit (by Cacique [NJ]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2018 3:32 PM
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There have to be more that this, usuary people get the raw information, I would like to read the arguments and why so high of reward. --173.61.xxx.xxx




must pay 6.7m for graffit (by LiveTheDream [AZ]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2018 3:56 PM
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What Ally said. We have no graffiti in our town. We stay really on top of it and get it covered almost immediately when it shows up.

Our city has an app where you can take a photo of the graffiti or other violation and send it with the GPS address to code enforcement and they will get it abated within 24-48 hours.

Glad I don't live in one of those back(ward) east states like NJ. --47.216.xx.xxx




must pay 6.7m for graffit (by Jim in O C [C]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2018 4:12 AM
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I sure hope our clowns in Sacramento , Pot-afornia don’t hear about this . --174.211.xx.xx




must pay 6.7m for graffit (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2018 6:23 AM
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The other side of the story:

news.artnet.com/art-world/judge-awards-6-million-5pointz-lawsuit-1222394

And another reason to get permits before you do visible work!! --50.82.xxx.xx




must pay 6.7m for graffit (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2018 6:25 AM
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"Judge Block had harsh words for Wolkoff and the 2013 whitewashing episode in particular. He wrote: “If not for Wolkoff’s insolence, these damages would not have been assessed. If he did not destroy 5Pointz until he received his permits and demolished it 10 months later, the Court would not have found that he had acted willfully.” --50.82.xxx.xx




must pay 6.7m for graffit (by Chris [CT]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2018 1:34 PM
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Read the entire story he leased the building to various artists for years.

Also remember NYC is its own little world. The sites worth $200m so this is a rounding error and will be appealed down.

He did what he did because it was cheaper/faster than doing it threw channels. These artists could have held him up for years. --24.45.xxx.xx




must pay 6.7m for graffit (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2018 3:52 PM
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There must be a back story. Interesting. Sad. Unreal. Crazy. Suppose they will now fight to collect... Another nightmare. Suppose it will continue to be caught-up in that system...as they will most likey tight it up in court and avoid collecting that judgement. --99.203.x.xxx




must pay 6.7m for graffit (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2018 11:19 PM
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Tony,

And this is why I do not rent to lawyers or their staff. Lawyers can twist up any truth, and they help their workers.

BRAD --68.51.xx.xxx




must pay 6.7m for graffit (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2018 5:54 AM
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Thanks for posting details on the other side of this. I searched the other day figuring there must be more to it, but couldn't find anything. Good to read it now -- thanks!

- John...

--24.180.xxx.xxx




must pay 6.7m for graffit (by Kyle [IN]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2018 9:24 AM
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Oh no! I have painted over some tenant's "murals". I hope none of them were of recognized stature. Maybe I need to add that question to the application. --73.102.xxx.xx




must pay 6.7m for graffit (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2018 10:12 AM
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These stupid graffiti artists did more to destroy their art than the landlord tearing down the buildings ever did. Now that this judgement is on the books, no building owner will ever let these artists paint on their buildings ever again. --108.69.xxx.xxx




must pay 6.7m for graffit (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2018 10:52 AM
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John/MI, I have a FB friend who is a tenant advocate. She also chases blighted houses in Baltimore MD with graffiti artists. She had "the other side" posted on her page. --50.82.xxx.xx





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