3 bedroom-8 kids (by Ken [NY]) Feb 13, 2018 6:44 AM|
3 bedroom-8 kids (by RB [MI]) Feb 13, 2018 6:59 AM
3 bedroom-8 kids (by Amy [MO]) Feb 13, 2018 7:08 AM
3 bedroom-8 kids (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Feb 13, 2018 7:16 AM
3 bedroom-8 kids (by Ken [NY]) Feb 13, 2018 7:35 AM
3 bedroom-8 kids (by cjl [NY]) Feb 13, 2018 7:44 AM
3 bedroom-8 kids (by LindaJ [NY]) Feb 13, 2018 7:47 AM
3 bedroom-8 kids (by Ken [NY]) Feb 13, 2018 7:59 AM
3 bedroom-8 kids (by cjl [NY]) Feb 13, 2018 8:03 AM
3 bedroom-8 kids (by J [FL]) Feb 13, 2018 8:26 AM
3 bedroom-8 kids (by Vee [OH]) Feb 13, 2018 8:31 AM
3 bedroom-8 kids (by Barb [MO]) Feb 13, 2018 8:43 AM
3 bedroom-8 kids (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Feb 13, 2018 8:51 AM
3 bedroom-8 kids (by S i d [MO]) Feb 13, 2018 9:46 AM
3 bedroom-8 kids (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Feb 13, 2018 10:58 AM
3 bedroom-8 kids (by Lisa [TX]) Feb 13, 2018 1:32 PM
3 bedroom-8 kids (by J [FL]) Feb 13, 2018 1:50 PM
3 bedroom-8 kids (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Feb 15, 2018 12:48 PM
3 bedroom-8 kids (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 6:44 AM
Somebody emailed me from a craigslist ad,would you house me,my wife and 8 kids? this is a 3 bedroom and the ad said 3 bedroom,i didn't even respond.Who would want to live in a 3 bedroom with 8 kids? --72.231.xxx.xxx
3 bedroom-8 kids (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 6:59 AM
Funny you should ask.
I was brought up, (18 years and Out)
3/1, 1200 SQ. Ft. Ranch Home.
There were 10 Kids, 2 Parents. (that's 12 Total)
A Country Boy Can Survive. (Life is Better on a Dirt Road)
3 bedroom-8 kids (by Amy [MO]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 7:08 AM
Families who need to feed and clothe their kids.
Its still a lot of people and it's hard on a house.
RB-1 bathroom. Wow. I'm betting mom never knew Calgon. --136.32.xxx.xxx
3 bedroom-8 kids (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 7:16 AM
It may not be a matter of want as much as it is a matter of affordability. You need to be careful about not responding...familial issues are the number one fair housing complaint. There are testers out there who randomly call LL's to see their response.
3 bedroom-8 kids (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 7:35 AM
NC INVESTOR,I cant see 8 kids in a 3 bedroom as being legal anyway --72.231.xxx.xxx
3 bedroom-8 kids (by cjl [NY]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 7:44 AM
I get your point Ken ... yikes. I totally understand that the cost may be the driver for these people but at the same time - they need to find a different "hobby" to pass their time!
I know Ken is intelligent enough NOT to say "sorry, too many kids" as MOST on here are (I said most). That's sometimes the "beauty" of craigslist - you CAN just delete an email and "never receive it". I do that with people that I recognize that are "always" looking for an apartment or just don't even bother to read the ad. My thought is that "if you don't have the time to read my ad ... I don't have time to read yours".
3 bedroom-8 kids (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 7:47 AM
Not that I would want to rent to 8 kids in any amount of bedrooms, but, I think Americans are to spoiled in what a lot of them expect. A bedroom and a bath per person. Family room and living room and game room.
Somehow, we raised our daughter with 1 bathroom for the 3 of us, all going to work or school around the same time. Oh and no central air (we do live in the country). People could not believe we could live like that. --96.236.xx.xx
3 bedroom-8 kids (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 7:59 AM
If they want to live with 4 kids per bedroom that is up to them but not in my place,that is just asking for excessive damage.I grew up with 1 bath for my parents,sister and myself,my father carried water from the crick to flush the toilet till they could afford a drilled well so I don't think I am spoiled but I don't want my place wrecked.I doubt city code would even allow it --72.231.xxx.xxx
3 bedroom-8 kids (by cjl [NY]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 8:03 AM
So true LindaJ ... I also grew up in a farm house with 3 bed and one bath no air (until later) and they were window units.
2 girls, 1 boy and my parents.
Now I have a 3 bed 1.5 bath home and only have a daughter (now moved out). We purchased this home because we were thinking we would have more than one and wouldn't need to purchase more ... oh well ... wasn't "our" decision on that.
My wife grew up in a 3 bed one bath home with her parents and 7 brothers and sisters! Yup ... 7. BUT - they OWNED their house and converted and added to the house (but it wasn't until AFTER the older ones moved on and out)! HA HA ...
3 bedroom-8 kids (by J [FL]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 8:26 AM
If a group exceeds the "2 per bedroom + 1" guidelines, is it safe to say "no" during prescreening, or are we supposed to still meet with them, take an application and then deny later based on that?
I've never been clear on this. --72.188.xxx.xx
3 bedroom-8 kids (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 8:31 AM
The difference between owning and renting, I spent many summers (other seasons later on - no 18 and out) on family farms staying in farmhouses but I doubt they were larger than 900-1000 sq ft, boys bedroom, girls bedroom and grownup bedroom and someone slept on a sofa bed to keep the kids from sneeking out, we got caught instantly crawling out the windows because there were rose bushes planted there (even with 2 layers the prickers were too much), country girls survive too, life on a dirt road is wonderful. We experimented with electricity a lot but no toys like todays kids, we had electric trains, easybake oven was used to melt plastic sickening everyone in the house, made jacobs ladder, modified ham radios into broadcast stations, hydrogen manufacturing, gunpowder for rockets, kids today have not a clue.
But back to renting reality - have to follow fire code on how many persons in a sleeping room, nearly everywhere I have managed or invested it is 2 in a sleeping room and new arrivals really arent counted till they are 12 months. --76.188.xxx.xx
3 bedroom-8 kids (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 8:43 AM
As a tenant - no. I don't want that many people in my home.
As an OWNER? Totally possible. As Americans, we are spoiled. Mom comes from a family of 4 kids. They had 2 bedrooms until she was older. Three kids in one bedroom, the baby in the room with Mom and Dad. Gender didn't matter. She shared a bedroom with her brothers until she was about 10. --131.151.xx.xx
3 bedroom-8 kids (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 8:51 AM
The way Fair Housing is written is very confusing but everyone assumes we only have to allow 2/BR. No so. They also factor SF. A room doesn't have to technically be a BR it could be a den or LR. Their standard is 50SF / person in sleeping quarters especially for children. I agree that it is a ton of excess wear and tear.I'm not defending the guidelines we just need to be aware of it.
This past fall I had a single mother with 8 kids(<1-17) apply for a 4 BR. That's 2 /BR plus it has a large LR, separate DR and eat-in kitchen more than enough space to meet FH regs. I knew she wouldn't qualify on income so I wasn't really concerned but I still tread very carefully and din't just blow her off.
J: I think you just follow your normal qualifications. And yes, it starts with your income guidelines which is another reason for all of us to have a written policy on that and enforce it.
3 bedroom-8 kids (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 9:46 AM
You can respond that they are welcome to look and apply, but that your state/local housing codes do not permit more than x-number of people in a house with 3 bedrooms. The only exception is if children are born during the
Then it's up to them. If they apply after you've told them you legally cannot approve them, that mistake is on their dime.
3 bedroom-8 kids (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 10:58 AM
That is a slippery slope. It is not occupants as much as SF. I just looked at how Charlotte defines it:
150 SF for 1st occupant, 100 additional SF for the next 3 and 50SF for each additional occupant over 4 people and children under 1 are not counted.
80SF for 1, 30 for the 2nd and 20 for each add"l person.
Assuming his city has the same ordinance he only needs 310 SF sleeping area for 12 people and 1050 SF in living space.
These are even stricter than FH. --71.75.xx.xx
3 bedroom-8 kids (by Lisa [TX]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 1:32 PM
We've had 7 kids in 2 bedrooms. 3 boys in one and 4 girls in the other. Double bunk beds make it work. They also all share a bathroom.
Thank goodness we are in a position to own our home. It would be nearly impossible to find a place to rent.
I will admit, we are harder on our homes than other families probably are. BUT, my kids know how to clean up a rental for a turn over - and they can PAINT! They earn their keep! --173.173.xxx.xx
3 bedroom-8 kids (by J [FL]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 1:50 PM
Thanks. I rarely get people in this situation so it doesn't hurt to show the unit to them if they want. --72.188.xxx.xx
3 bedroom-8 kids (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Feb 15, 2018 12:48 PM
This is a 3 Bedroom 5 tent house? even then, camping outside in Feb isn't too much fun --24.101.xxx.xxx