new house has water probl (by SMorris [NH]) Feb 12, 2018 6:46 PM|
new house has water probl (by LindaJ [NY]) Feb 12, 2018 7:17 PM
new house has water probl (by Smorris [NH]) Feb 12, 2018 7:34 PM
new house has water probl (by Frank [NJ]) Feb 12, 2018 8:31 PM
new house has water probl (by LiveTheDream [AZ]) Feb 12, 2018 10:45 PM
new house has water probl (by Don [PA]) Feb 12, 2018 11:10 PM
new house has water probl (by Robert J [CA]) Feb 12, 2018 11:12 PM
new house has water probl (by cjo 'h [CT]) Feb 12, 2018 11:29 PM
new house has water probl (by cjo'h [CT]) Feb 12, 2018 11:36 PM
new house has water probl (by John [NY]) Feb 12, 2018 11:43 PM
new house has water probl (by cjo'h [CT]) Feb 12, 2018 11:48 PM
new house has water probl (by nhsailmaker [NH]) Feb 13, 2018 3:06 AM
new house has water probl (by Still Learning [NH]) Feb 13, 2018 3:44 AM
new house has water probl (by Smorris [NH]) Feb 13, 2018 6:52 AM
new house has water probl (by Vee [OH]) Feb 13, 2018 7:43 AM
new house has water probl (by cjo'h [CT]) Feb 13, 2018 12:11 PM
new house has water probl (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Feb 13, 2018 12:28 PM
new house has water probl (by Chris [CT]) Feb 13, 2018 5:22 PM
new house has water probl (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Feb 13, 2018 8:12 PM
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new house has water probl (by SMorris [NH]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 6:46 PM
A few weeks ago I bought a rental house on 1/3 of an acre in NH. It had an elaborate sump pump system in the basement with channels all around the foundation. I'm thinking great place for a man cave this basement will never get wet. Asked the owner at closing how much water do you get in the yard from the sump pump? He said just a few puddles or so. After closing i'm over there and neighbors come over and is telling me that they all get water in the basement and always have. A few hours later that same day I'm down cellar hooking up a dryer and water comes seeping up from the floor really fast. It was a sunny day. Than several times after that the water has come in, once the sump pump and water starts coming in. This weekend we got .5 inches of rain which is nothing for this area and the driveway floods and now the house is sitting in the middle of a lake with the sump pump never shutting down. The water is about to wash out the neighbors driveway. What recourse do I have? Can I go after the realtor? Can I go after the home owner? Do I have to just suck it up. Someone lied here and I shouldn't have to take the fall for this. Any suggestions --24.34.xx.xxx
new house has water probl (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 7:17 PM
What did your home inspector say? What did the neighbors tell you when you spoke to them before you bought the house? Why did you think there was an elaborate system? That is probably on you for not doing your due diligence.
Currently there are lots of puddles around my gravel fields because the ground is frozen, in fact the the frost is probably the deepest in many years. Rain water on frozen ground cannot be absorbed, so it puddles and flows. So right now, I would not be super concerned about the puddles around. They are everywhere right now.
Is the pump system keeping the basement dry, even if it is constantly running, you have to consider it working if the basement is not getting water in it.
As for the man cave in the basement... any one who finishes a basement is foolish in my book. The course of underground water can change. Anything underground, unless absolutely waterproof can be in the way.
You might be able to go after the seller, but if the pumps work, there isn't anything he really misrepresented. --96.236.xx.xx
new house has water probl (by Smorris [NH]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 7:34 PM
Not puddles a pond with the house in the middle. I've been flipping house for over 40 years in 3 states. This is not my first merry go round. What makes me think the sump pump system is elaborate is because it is.It's an underground inclosed system. I've never seen one like this and I have a whole lot of house under my belt. Inspector cleared the basement for water going by the system and the owners statement
Your telling me that someone sells a house knowing that it floods if you not right there babysitting the system and is going to take out the neighbors driveway and when asked lies right to your face? This is a cold winter but not our coldest, This is New Hampshire we expect extreme cold.
Also I know lots of basements in this area that never have gotten water. Owned a few of those too. --24.34.xx.xxx
new house has water probl (by Frank [NJ]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 8:31 PM
I am gonna suggest that in NH they really like their as is clauses and rely on personal responsibility.
In NJ we would likely be hollering to an atty. About something like concealment of a material fact or out and out fraud. Did know or should have known.
NH...well it's just sharp dealing. Was it a screaming good deal? --70.208.xx.xxx
new house has water probl (by LiveTheDream [AZ]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 10:45 PM
I would say failure to disclose a known defect. Here in AZ we have like a 4 page disclosure form.
new house has water probl (by Don [PA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 11:10 PM
Your question is state specific. You have to check your sate's disclosure laws. Also, the seller's statement could be considered fraudulent, but it was only verbal I assume, so good luck proving it unless you can trick him into going on record that he said it. --73.141.xxx.xxx
new house has water probl (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 11:12 PM
Here in my State of California, even with an as-is sale, the seller must disclose reliant things.
In my real estate contract with a seller I had them fill out about 20 pages of disclosures. Of course they lied and I had issues. The contract called for binding arbitration.
So I had my attorney set up several meetings with a State Licensed Arbitrator. The first meeting no one showed up. The second meeting the attorney showed but not the seller. The third time the seller showed but not his attorney. So I fulfilled my attempts to arbitrate the issues so I then had to file a law suit.
My cost to attempt 3 arbitration's was about over $4,000. My cost to file a law suit and everything pre-trial was around $12,000. Before the case made it's way to court, the seller filed for Bankruptcy.
So beside having $30,000 problem I had to deal with I had an additional $16,000 out of pocket. Don't fell sorry for me, I just wanted to make you fell better that these issues arise. I sold that property after 8 years and made a good profit anyways. --47.156.xx.xx
new house has water probl (by cjo 'h [CT]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 11:29 PM
If there was a sumppump In the basement,seems like they weren't trying to hide anything.make sure the water flows into your back yard and not onto your neighbours drive..........charlie.........with the proper precautions,you can still make a nice retreat........................................................................... --174.199.x.xxx
new house has water probl (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 11:36 PM
I immigrated to Canada in'54, came here a few years later.Yes this is the coldest year that I have encountered since coming here,not the wettest or the most snow,but the coldest.........charlie.................................... --174.199.x.xxx
new house has water probl (by John [NY]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 11:43 PM
The only one that will make money with you suing is the lawyer. --108.176.xxx.xxx
new house has water probl (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 11:48 PM
I'm not you but if I we're,I'd make sure I had a tail gate generator sitting on the back porch just in case the power decided to cut out.if that happens,then that is the time you have to worry about water,not about drinking water,like they had in Michigan.........charlie....................... --174.199.x.xxx
new house has water probl (by nhsailmaker [NH]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 3:06 AM
My course of action would be to notify the realtor and seller with pictures and a demand for xxxxxxx$. 2) get a professional quote to re-grade entire property. 3) Put in additional pumps. 4) stop living in the problem and start living in the solution. If it is a 1/3 HP motor get duplicate or go to 1/2 HP motor - make sure you get alarms in case 1 pump fails to do the job. Re grade entire property to fix water problem.
There are NO problems in life - OLNY solutions. I learned that after moving a house 10 miles. Once you move a house .....there are no problems you cant solve. --24.34.xx.xxx
new house has water probl (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 3:44 AM
On top of what nhsailmaker said check with a RE Attorney, make sure you have a battery backup on the sump system and get quotes for a guaranteed waterproofing job for the basement. --24.61.xxx.xx
new house has water probl (by Smorris [NH]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 6:52 AM
So I just spoke with highway department. He said there was a fix to this problem and the neighbor agreed to put in a drain and they would all split the cost. Seems the cost went up a $100 or so the owner of the house I bought got upset and refused to pay so the drain was never put in. So now everything floods. The fix was easy, put a drain under a driveway on to a third party back woods where' the waters been going for years. . Problem now, the third party doesn't have water in their woods right now and they probably won't agree to do it now. I do believe I have a good fraud case here. I've know this property and there was never a big issue like this until this guy I bought the house from mucked it all up.
Any thoughts, would be appreciated. --24.34.xx.xxx
new house has water probl (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 7:43 AM
This sounds like a great place if you are willing to build a castle - you have the moat, just move the man cave above grade along with appliances that can not be placed on blocks, I have a workshop basement like this, great place to test outboard motors. --76.188.xxx.xx
new house has water probl (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 12:11 PM
You say you're in the middle of a pond.In the North of Ireland,we call that an island.Worth much more than a regular lot. And like Vee says easy to build a moat..................charlie................................................ --174.199.x.xxx
new house has water probl (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 12:28 PM
The sump pump system works so there's nothing to disclose since it's a fixed problem. However, if he had damage due to flooding and didn't disclose you may have something. Also, you mentioned channels around the foundation? Make sure those channels extend from the surface to at least 1 ft below the bottom of the basement foundation to provide an alternative direction for the water to go other than basement. Personally, I'd never have a sump pump in a basement. I'd have it outside and channel water AWAY from basement. But all this was known to you before you bought it. Does your property fall in a flood plain and was that disclosed? That may be a good one to check on.
I have some suggestions....
1. Next to the sump pump, install another sump pump and pit. Have the first pit pipe into the second when it gets 3/4 full so you can use the extra pump when first gets overtaxed. Also if first pump fails, second one kicks in. Make sure it's same HP or more than other. Also make sure there's a battery backup in case power outage during storm.
2. In the yard, install another pit and sump pump with backup like mentioned above, in the lowest part of the yard where water gathers, or install multiple 6 inch pipes from that pit to the downhill edge of your property so it runs off and away from your house. Direct all downspouts to that area too so they pipe into that pit.
3. Make sure your property has curbs so all the neighbor's water stays away from your property.
4. Install a small retaining wall along all uphill neighbors and provide place for water to run other than your property. --108.69.xxx.xxx
new house has water probl (by Chris [CT]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 5:22 PM
They have the elaborate sump pump system for a reason...
Houses get water in their basements for all sorts of reasons, most are pretty easy to see. How is the grading? It sounds like everything is pitched towards the house for starters.
How are the local soils? Some drain, some just don't.
I have done old ranch's where we dug up the foundation, sprayed them with sealer which the old timers never did, put felt on them and did drains along the footings. Sometimes that's what it takes.
I did a basement below water level 50ft away from a pound. Its dry as a bone, the water is 5in below the slab in the sump and it is solid water but its dry as can be above that. The sump has so much water flow my uncle put gold fish in once and they lived for months! --24.45.xxx.xx
new house has water probl (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 8:12 PM
The goldfish lived for months until they got sucked through the pump's impeller? --108.69.xxx.xxx
new house has water probl (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Feb 15, 2018 8:42 AM
What did the sellers disclosure say?
If you missed something or didn't understand what was mentioned - the fault is on you.
If what was disclosed was fraudulent or minimized then it is on them.
Is the system that you were talking about a built in small valley around the exterior walls located in the inside of the basement? It would be tough to miss a system like that......
I guess the question I would have, based on your vast experience - how did this slip thru? Specifically - Where was the failure at?
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