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Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Jeff [CO]) Feb 12, 2018 11:17 AM
       Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by S i d [MO]) Feb 12, 2018 11:29 AM
       Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Jeff [CO]) Feb 12, 2018 11:32 AM
       Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Jeff [CO]) Feb 12, 2018 11:33 AM
       Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Johnny B. [MA]) Feb 12, 2018 11:39 AM
       Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Stephen [ON]) Feb 12, 2018 11:47 AM
       Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Jeff [CO]) Feb 12, 2018 11:57 AM
       Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Rusty [MD]) Feb 12, 2018 11:59 AM
       Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Andrew, Canada [ON]) Feb 12, 2018 3:19 PM
       Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by AllyM [NJ]) Feb 12, 2018 5:20 PM
       Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Vee [OH]) Feb 12, 2018 5:33 PM
       Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Feb 12, 2018 5:36 PM
       Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Robert J [CA]) Feb 12, 2018 11:26 PM
       Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by nhsailmaker [NH]) Feb 13, 2018 3:42 AM
       Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Feb 15, 2018 5:05 AM
       Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Feb 15, 2018 5:05 AM

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Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 11:17 AM
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I'm not looking for a solution here. It's just a amused observation.

EVERY time a tenant quits one of my units, the smoke detector's battery is dead, the unit has been pulled from the ceiling, is missing, or they have removed the battery. (The CO alarm is usually okay as it plugs into the wall AC).

I hate to generalize, but stuff like this shows me why they are tenants!

--76.120.xx.xxx




Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 11:29 AM
Message:

Same here!

What's funny is you can buy 9V at Sam's or Wal-Mart for about $2.50. I charge $10 per disabled smoke detector, which includes replacing the battery. $25 if the entire detector is missing/busted.

Thought about those 10-year detectors, but my concern there is they'll rip them apart anyway, only to find they can't use the battery. Then they won't tell me because they won't want to pay for a new one ($40 or so0.

You can't fix this behavior/mentality. I'll just stick to my 400% markup on batteries for now. --173.17.xx.xx




Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 11:32 AM
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You gave me some goof ideas. I ran into one today with the battery removed. I'm gonna charge him $4 as it's not in the lease - yet. (I probably couldn't charge more now). --76.120.xx.xxx




Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 11:33 AM
Message:

Typo - "good ideas." --76.120.xx.xxx




Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Johnny B. [MA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 11:39 AM
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I recently had a unit turnover and found the tenant had removed a hard wired smoke detector.... not too intelligent. --24.147.xx.xxx




Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Stephen [ON]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 11:47 AM
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I have had problems with the plug in CO alarms. Tenants will plug them in behind couches, plug them into power bars in such a way that their weight has them prying out of the electrical socket, move them away from sleeping areas (the one place they are required to be by Ontario law). I have been moving to the combined Smoke & CO Ten Year Lithium Sealed Alarms that you screw mount to the ceiling. I find there are fewer problems with them. They are not fool proof, I have had some tampered with just like any smoke alarm and tenants, but they are less easy to move around than just being unplugged from the wall. --70.30.xx.xxx




Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 11:57 AM
Message:

Let's face it, tenants are so precious... :)

That's funny, Stephen. Whatever good we try to do, they will find a way to undo it.

I won't switch to those alarms because they are more expensive.

--76.120.xx.xxx




Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Rusty [MD]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 11:59 AM
Message:

It's been said on here before, crack and weed set off smoke detectors almost instantly. If the detectors are removed, you know why. --70.126.xx.xxx




Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Andrew, Canada [ON]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 3:19 PM
Message:

The fire dept fines/charges the landlord even though the tenant disabled, tampered with or removed the detector.

I now have tenants annually sign a formal notice saying the smoke and co detectors are installed, have been tested, the batteries have been replaced and the tenant acknowledges is an offence to tamper with, disable or remove a detector. The notice includes the date of manufacture and required replacement date and the brand and model of the detectors.

I keep the original signed copies on file. --65.94.xxx.xxx




Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 5:20 PM
Message:

It goes off too much. It beeps when battery wears out so they take a baseball bat or frying pan and knock it off the wall or ceiling. Should be a way to lower it to replace battery. Pull a chain and it comes down on a spring or something. --73.33.xxx.xxx




Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 5:33 PM
Message:

Beating on something is the tenant method of problem solving, if it still beeps throw it into the garbage can - trash pickup will never hear the noise with the roar of the truck and traffic, as many of us have seen this is how spouses, children are disciplined and pets too, just give it a whack, OK now a bigger whack... --76.188.xxx.xx




Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 5:36 PM
Message:

I stopped putting them on the ceiling. They go onto the wall where an adult can reach them to hit the hush button. (Be sure about the law in your area)

I still get them with battery removed, but not as often, and they are smashed much less frequently. Tenants get billed for replacement. Oregon allows the landlord to fine the tenant for disabling the smoke detector. Maybe put it in the lease that there is a fee for tampering? --174.216.x.xxx




Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2018 11:26 PM
Message:

When an apartment is inspected by the City or County, if the smoke detector isn't in working condition, the land lord is fined from $100, $150 or $500 depending which department did the inspection.

--47.156.xx.xx




Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by nhsailmaker [NH]) Posted on: Feb 13, 2018 3:42 AM
Message:

It is against NH LAW for tenants to tamper with alarms - I have them sign a separate page acknowledging the law and it outlines the safety system in the residence from alarms to extinguishers - doesn't mean diddly to some tenants - they still break the law without a thought. --24.34.xx.xxx




Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Feb 15, 2018 5:05 AM
Message:

I used to have the same issue. After I shifted to 10 year lithium batteries, the incentive to take the 9 volt batteries is gone.

--24.101.xxx.xxx




Tenants and Smoke Alarms (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Feb 15, 2018 5:05 AM
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I am not sure what else you would use a 9 Volt for exactly but they used to disappear --24.101.xxx.xxx



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