 Are you? (by Doogie [KS]) Jan 19, 2018 7:58 AM
 Are you? (by TIM [IN]) Jan 19, 2018 8:44 AM
Are you? (by Bret [MO]) Jan 19, 2018 8:46 AM
Are you? (by David [MI]) Jan 19, 2018 8:50 AM
Are you? (by 1Gr81 [NC]) Jan 19, 2018 9:14 AM
Are you? (by Barb [MO]) Jan 19, 2018 9:17 AM
Are you? (by Luba [NY]) Jan 19, 2018 9:45 AM
Are you? (by Richard [MI]) Jan 19, 2018 10:10 AM
Are you? (by cjo'h [CT]) Jan 19, 2018 10:54 AM
Are you? (by Skunk [KY]) Jan 19, 2018 11:07 AM
Are you? (by Bret [MO]) Jan 19, 2018 11:20 AM
Are you? (by Bret [MO]) Jan 19, 2018 11:20 AM
Are you? (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Jan 19, 2018 11:23 AM
Are you? (by Sisco [MO]) Jan 19, 2018 11:36 AM
Are you? (by Don [PA]) Jan 19, 2018 11:47 AM
Are you? (by J [FL]) Jan 19, 2018 11:59 AM
Are you? (by Doogie [KS]) Jan 19, 2018 12:07 PM
Are you? (by cjo'h [CT]) Jan 19, 2018 1:27 PM
Are you? (by Gene [OH]) Jan 19, 2018 2:03 PM
Are you? (by Doogie [KS]) Jan 19, 2018 2:03 PM
Are you? (by J [FL]) Jan 19, 2018 2:31 PM
Are you? (by John... [MI]) Jan 19, 2018 2:48 PM
Are you? (by John... [MI]) Jan 19, 2018 2:48 PM
Are you? (by J [FL]) Jan 19, 2018 3:14 PM
Are you? (by gevans [SC]) Jan 19, 2018 3:15 PM
Are you? (by CJ [MO]) Jan 19, 2018 3:26 PM
Are you? (by Vee [OH]) Jan 19, 2018 7:41 PM
Are you? (by WMH [NC]) Jan 20, 2018 3:44 AM
Are you? (by Doogie [KS]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 7:58 AM
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So, I've been getting a lot of calls recently and the first question asked is "Are you a private landlord?" I know why they are asking. They are wanting to tell a sob story to a private landlord and guilt them into taking the tenant. Sometimes, they just don't want to pay an application fee. Regardless of their reason, I would hope the private landlords aren't falling for all this. It's not a very profitable deal for them in the long run.
I also get that that question pretty much screens them out. However, my real question is how do yall answer this when asked?
--98.175.xxx.xxx |
Are you? (by TIM [IN]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 8:44 AM
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Reply: "No, I'm the manager...."
Truth: yeah I own the place. Next!
--67.143.xxx.xxx |
Are you? (by Bret [MO]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 8:46 AM
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We get that question all the time from low quality prospects. They always have a story explaining the real reason for their 500 credit score, or their two-year old eviction, or their domestic battery conviction, etc.
We just tell them we're the management company for that property. Half the time they plow ahead with their sob story anyway, which almost always weeds them out. The only exception I can think of lately is one young couple who did get evicted, but they satisfied the judgement, cleaned up the court record and made it right. We rented to them. --107.209.xxx.xxx |
Are you? (by David [MI]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 8:50 AM
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idk, I think sometimes they want to know there is someone in charge who is actually managing the place (repairs) and not an absentee landlord. --12.156.xxx.xx |
Are you? (by 1Gr81 [NC]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 9:14 AM
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As stated...1st red flag. Agreed that this potential tenant has a perpetual problem with late pays or evictions and knows(hopes) that a private owner may not be as ridged w the rules.
To answer your question, I tell the truth that, I am the owner, but make a special note to screen extra carefully. If I have plenty of applicants, this one question alone is enough to disqualify them. --74.124.xxx.xxx |
Are you? (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 9:17 AM
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Seeing that a lot on FB groups - people asking for where they can rent, wanting to rent from an individual. Sigh.
--131.151.xx.xx |
Are you? (by Luba [NY]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 9:45 AM
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I am thinking that they don’t want to pay realtor one month rent.
On the positive side... maybe they are on a “buyl local” movement. Want to use real local small business peoples, just like tomatoes... --70.214.xx.xx |
Are you? (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 10:10 AM
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are you a private landlord?
My answer would be "who's asking and why do you want to know"?
That's when they usually hang up. --23.121.xx.xxx |
Are you? (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 10:54 AM
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Doogie, just ask them,"what is a private landlord ".........charlie.........I'd like to know too................................. --174.199.x.xx |
Are you? (by Skunk [KY]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 11:07 AM
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Doogie - I go with "I'm the leasing specialist." As you mention, if anyone's asking, it's usually because the caller has skeletons aplenty in the closet. --107.77.xxx.xx |
Are you? (by Bret [MO]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 11:20 AM
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I just tell 'em that I'm the property manager for the owner, even if I'm the owner. Most of my stuff is deeded into trusts,so they couldn't find out who the property owner is anyway without a bunch of effort. --70.195.xx.xx |
Are you? (by Bret [MO]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 11:20 AM
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I just tell 'em that I'm the property manager for the owner, even if I'm the owner. Most of my stuff is deeded into trusts,so they couldn't find out who the property owner is anyway without a bunch of effort. --70.195.xx.xx |
Are you? (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 11:23 AM
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I am inclined to agree with the those who think it is a red flag. If someone asked me that I would assume they were afraid of what will show up on a credit check or rental verification from their previous. --71.75.xx.xx |
Are you? (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 11:36 AM
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It seems that property management company screening processes have reached the point that there is no use for a problem tenant to apply. I hope that all the owner operators tighten their processes to match. --72.172.xxx.xx |
Are you? (by Don [PA]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 11:47 AM
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Next line will be " Here is my story."
Hey, I am not in the story business! Go talk to Disney or MGM, they are interested in stories. --73.141.xxx.xxx |
Are you? (by J [FL]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 11:59 AM
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"It seems that property management company screening processes have reached the point that there is no use for a problem tenant to apply. I hope that all the owner operators tighten their processes to match."
I've used a PM and their screening criteria is no stricter than what anyone on this forum does. So I think these tenants who ask this are looking for someone who does no screening at all. --72.188.xxx.xx |
Are you? (by Doogie [KS]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 12:07 PM
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I tend to agree with you J. There's probably something big on the past that only a small amount of digging would turn up. The only other thing I can figure out is they don't want to pay an app fee. All of my landlording buddies charge one, so not sure that really is it either. I've asked a few people what the difference is and they never will answer me.
I'm not sure overall. It definitely is a red flag to me. --98.175.xxx.xxx |
Are you? (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 1:27 PM
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Doogie, I don't charge for an application.I F I think they're a good prospect,I have them fill out the application there and then,and give me the money for the credit check.If they're reluctant to part with the money,I know they have something to hide,so they automatically screen themselves out..........charlie............................. ..... ...... --174.199.x.xx |
Are you? (by Gene [OH]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 2:03 PM
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I have had a few who asked that question because the private owner they were renting from was selling the home they are renting. --155.188.xxx.xx |
Are you? (by Doogie [KS]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 2:03 PM
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Hi charlie - I pretty much do the same thing. I charge for the application because I get charged for the background check. It weeds out the people that know they won't qualify. I've had people even say "I have x on my record, is that going to be a problem?" They know it will be discovered. --98.175.xxx.xxx |
Are you? (by J [FL]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 2:31 PM
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Doogie it could be the fees also, and to avoid red tape. Most PMs seem to charge at least $40 app fee per person. The one I used also charged an "administrative fee" of $175 after an applicant was accepted. And there are other fees later on. --72.188.xxx.xx |
Are you? (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 2:48 PM
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I've absolutely seen both sides of this with different people:
1. People that need a private landlord so that they might listen to their sob story that the Big Boys won't listen to.
2. People that want a private landlord so that they have someone that seems to actually pay attention to their properties because the Big Boys have pretty much abandoned theirs or have a local "super" that doesn't do anything.
So, I no longer discount people much for asking this until I've figured out why.
- John...
--24.180.xxx.xxx |
Are you? (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 2:48 PM
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I've absolutely seen both sides of this with different people:
1. People that need a private landlord so that they might listen to their sob story that the Big Boys won't listen to.
2. People that want a private landlord so that they have someone that seems to actually pay attention to their properties because the Big Boys have pretty much abandoned theirs or have a local "super" that doesn't do anything.
So, I no longer discount people much for asking this until I've figured out why.
- John...
--24.180.xxx.xxx |
Are you? (by J [FL]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 3:14 PM
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I agree John. A lot of people ask that question and I don't hold it against them. --72.188.xxx.xx |
Are you? (by gevans [SC]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 3:15 PM
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Locally, it seems to mean they are looking for their next victim, a LL that does not know the ropes.
I always tell them I'm the property manager for XXX Rental Company. I'll be the guy who takes care of you.
I ALWAYS include Yes, we screen carefully: credit checks, criminal checks, and current LL.
I get lots of clicks after that.
It's OK... it's the sound of people screening themselves out.
--98.122.x.xx |
Are you? (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 3:26 PM
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Most time they mean if there is background check but they do not want to ask that question directly. Very few prospects want to void management company by asking that question. --97.91.xxx.xxx |
Are you? (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2018 7:41 PM
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I do almost the same as Gevans followed by we treat everyone the same with applications and the background/credit check cost 40bux each. No pets and no smokers - clik... --76.188.xxx.xx |
Are you? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2018 3:44 AM
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Most of the people who ask this of us - I find it is because they have had such poor experiences with the large property management places. Locally, these guys concentrate on the large rental machines and the long-term SFHs get short shrift. It could the PM, it could be the cheap long-distant LL, but I do hear about the poor service from the big PMs. --50.82.xxx.xx |
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