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How to beat City Hall (by Rick [IN]) Jan 13, 2018 5:35 AM
       How to beat City Hall (by David [MI]) Jan 13, 2018 5:42 AM
       How to beat City Hall (by David [MI]) Jan 13, 2018 6:30 AM
       How to beat City Hall (by AllyM [NJ]) Jan 13, 2018 7:27 AM
       How to beat City Hall (by RathdrumGal [ID]) Jan 13, 2018 8:39 AM
       How to beat City Hall (by David [MI]) Jan 13, 2018 9:22 AM
       How to beat City Hall (by Vee [OH]) Jan 13, 2018 10:32 AM
       How to beat City Hall (by Tony [NJ]) Jan 13, 2018 12:53 PM
       How to beat City Hall (by nhsailmaker [NH]) Jan 14, 2018 6:36 AM
       How to beat City Hall (by DebH [NY]) Feb 2, 2018 9:11 AM

How to beat City Hall (by Rick [IN]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2018 5:35 AM

Keep in touch with mayors and city councilmen. Find out how an ordinance is introduced and filed; and when an anti-LL procedure is filed immediately let your mayor, councilmen and LL know. Usually it is via the City Clerk's office.  Find out how an ordinance becomes law, for instance in our town it is introduced in one meeting and voted on the next meeting. If you cannot defeat an anti-LL ordinance, ask city council to table it for the next meeting in order to obtain more public commit and to gather more strength. Find out which city council members are against you and concentrate on them, also the mayor, but do not ignore those who favor you and get their input.

Become good friends with a print shop. Print up hundreds of brightly colored fliers with the ordinance number on it and briefly state how this will increase rents, put a burden on Mom-Pop LL, and how the real reason is for the city to steal money from it's citizens to make up for their financial incompetence. On this flier list the names and contact information for the mayor and city council members. However, do not put your name or your LL group name on it. I personally deliver them to every apt. I can, but you may wish to check into your locale's solicitation laws. When in doubt, pass them out. Don't forget to ask your local small business owner if you can place your information in their business. For example I had out local root-beer stand pass out a similar ordinance sheet to every customer on their car window tray. I've also asked a few weekend  locally owned pizza delivery drivers to deliver these fliers to the apts. they know of.

Know the phone number and if possible the address of every landlord in your city. Physically contact them if possible to let them know what is going on. Be humble and brief in discussing this with them. Leave a flier with every LL. About a week later, contact them again as a polite and brief reminder. Have as many folks as possible to show up in support of you. Very important, have your tenants speak up at these city council meetings to speak against the anti-LL ordinance on how it would increase their rent and invade their privacy. 

Speak out against this anti-LL registration via social media and newspaper editorials. There is usually a newspaper reporter covering local issues. Find this person out and tell them the truth about said registration. 

Ask a local attorney to review the city's ordinance to see if it violates state law or contradicts another local ordinance . For instance, Indiana has a good state law in IC 36-1-20-30.

Many times a local municipality will say they need this registration for emergency contact of the property owner. What a lie! Tell them to ask the tenant who they send rent to, or the Treasurer's office when property tax statements go out.

Never give up and keep repeatedly hammering away at the mayor and those anti-LL city councilmen by every LL and tenant you can.

Best of success to you all!


How to beat City Hall (by David [MI]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2018 5:42 AM

In desirable, class A and B neighborhoods, the vast majority of houses will be owner occupied. The voters will overwhelmingly be owner occupants, not renters. These city council members are simply reflecting the desires of these voters. That is, the other property owners actually WANT these rules because they want to regulate rentals. Even having every renter voter against it won't dent the simple numbers advantage.

The best you can do is to rat out other LLs who don't abide by these regulations., to make sure all rentals are treated equally

How to beat City Hall (by David [MI]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2018 6:30 AM

Put it another way, I can't think of a reason off the top of my head that owner occupants *wouldn't* want to regulate rental properties in their neighborhoods. A desirable neighborhood, by definition, could easily have former rental properties be bought by an owner occupant instead.

How to beat City Hall (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2018 7:27 AM

Ugh. Most of them around here are dimwitted Democrats and they have employed their relatives who would not be employable in industry. It's a zoo here. Forget that.

How to beat City Hall (by RathdrumGal [ID]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2018 8:39 AM

We are turning into a "renter nation". The problem with being a LL in a renter nation is that it is an easy pander for politicians to put renter friendly laws in place in an attempt to win votes, while casting LLs as the bad guy.

Renters do not understand the impact of property taxes on their rent -- so they happily vote for feel good social programs with no regard for the impact on property taxes.

Then they complain about the high rents, and it is an easy win for a politician to promote rent control, outlaw "no-fault" evictions, etc.

How to beat City Hall (by David [MI]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2018 9:22 AM

RathdrumGal, the ordindance here is "anti-LL" which is not the same as what you're describing as pro-renter.

Moreover "social programs" have nothing to do with rentals

How to beat City Hall (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2018 10:32 AM

David-MI, where do you think programs for senior exercise training staff, library maintenance, swimming pools - tennis court painting, over a million aluminum signs indicating truck loads come from - yes taxes... So many emergency funding deals made at council meetings are because the routine repairs were neglected by inept staff at several levels of city/county government, need to paint a mural in a highway overpass bridge - emergency funding needed, bike lanes on streets that bicycles have navigated the last 140 years - another emergency funding drain because it was voted down already for 20 years!

How to beat City Hall (by Tony [NJ]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2018 12:53 PM

In my area, it's a known fact that renters - as a class- have low voter turnout. A local politicion told me this as he pushed for a local ordinance that would cost landlords more, which would presumably be passed on to tenants. Little fear of voter reprisal.

How to beat City Hall (by nhsailmaker [NH]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2018 6:36 AM

I have an increase in taxes clause that passes through any tax increase directly to tenants - I call it the get out and vote clause.

How to beat City Hall (by DebH [NY]) Posted on: Feb 2, 2018 9:11 AM

It appears in NY state that the issue of landlord registration is left up to local municipalities, who all handle it a little different. I agree with Rick's original post that if a municipality wants to get in touch with landlords, they have fairly easy access through the tax records. However, in my rural county, they don't have emergency contact information, or even phone numbers, and it is somewhat unreliable to ask some tenants, who don't ever see their landlord after day 1. While I hate for landlords to have to pay the fees towns tack on, I don't see a problem with registering. I am hoping to ask for a $20 per unit fee reduction or elimination against our local ordinance.


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