damages before move out (by Lisa E. [VA]) Jan 9, 2018 3:41 PM|
damages before move out (by Vee [OH]) Jan 9, 2018 4:20 PM
damages before move out (by Don [MO]) Jan 9, 2018 7:06 PM
damages before move out (by Lisa E. [VA]) Jan 9, 2018 7:34 PM
damages before move out (by Lisa E. [VA]) Jan 9, 2018 7:57 PM
damages before move out (by Don [MO]) Jan 9, 2018 9:10 PM
damages before move out (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jan 9, 2018 9:34 PM
damages before move out (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jan 9, 2018 9:47 PM
damages before move out (by Tom [FL]) Jan 10, 2018 5:13 AM
damages before move out (by Tom [FL]) Jan 10, 2018 5:20 AM
damages before move out (by Vee [OH]) Jan 10, 2018 5:20 AM
damages before move out (by Lisa E. [VA]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2018 3:41 PM
One of my student tenants (don't know which person, no one is fessing up) left the shower curtain of the bathtub causing a flood from the first to second floor. The drywall damage amounted to several hundred dollars. One of the parents has paid their split of the bill but another parent/guarantor is pushing back, insisting it's not his kid's fault but must be a plumbing problem. I had a plumber visit and find no issue and point to the tenants.
However, the lease calls joint responsibility for rent, deposit, etc. My question is since the second parent won't pay up now, can I subtract their part of the bill from the security deposit. I've already paid the bill for the plumber and the drywall but planning to take the parent owes from the deposit after the move out in some months. Would this be a problem? --100.15.xx.xxx
damages before move out (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2018 4:20 PM
You add this to the next rent cycle, or deduct from the escrow account if they have prepaid like all my students do, no need to prolong the pain. I did note in your description that the first floor water caused damage to the second floor but I am sure it was really the other way around, water goes downhill everywhere I have worked. --76.188.xxx.xx
damages before move out (by Don [MO]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2018 7:06 PM
Does your lease have ths typical "Joint and Several" clause? If so, they are responsible as a group and can fight it out amongst themselves. That comes with the territory of having a roommate. --70.195.xx.xxx
damages before move out (by Lisa E. [VA]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2018 7:34 PM
Yes, you're correct water always flows up. LOL!
There's no escrow for pre-paid rent in this case but that sounds wonderful if you can get that upfront.
I'm not clear on the next 'rent cycle'? The lease specifies a fixed amount ($1500) and that is what the parents pay, ($500 each) assuming no late fees.
It's after the first of the month, so at this point the parents have paid rent for this month. The outstanding damage charges, I figured were outside of the question of rent. My thought is it would be simply easier to wait until later, when these folks are out the door, rather than fight this out now. --100.15.xx.xxx
damages before move out (by Lisa E. [VA]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2018 7:57 PM
And yes, the lease says ALL the tenants & guarantors are jointly responsible. Meaning I shouldn't just go after the parent who is refusing to pay up, it would be anyone who is on the lease. That's another reason it would be easier to simply subtract the damages from the deposit. --100.15.xx.xxx
damages before move out (by Don [MO]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2018 9:10 PM
Charge them NOW. Don't wait until they mive out. The SD doesn't get touched u,til they're gone. --104.166.xxx.xx
damages before move out (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2018 9:34 PM
No. You MUST keep the deposit intact for the possible move out damages and possible unpaid rent. The dep is your only protection form the unknown future. This is Basic Landlording 101.
Itís simple: your LEASEES owe the money, now. Add it to their rent log.
Of the parents co-signed send the all default letters. And exactly like Don said itís up to the leasees to figure this out or face a lawsuit. They will get it done.
Donít let their problem become your problem.
My lease is clear: Fees and repairs are added to their account. Any unpaid balance is considered unpaid rent and grounds for eviction.
damages before move out (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2018 9:47 PM
I know sliding glass shower doors are out of fashion, but Iíve never had a wet floor from sliding doors.
Our job as managers is to eliminate possible problems, both physical and legal.
damages before move out (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2018 5:13 AM
They paid this months rent and the damage is added to this months rent. Send the share of the damage to this tenant and state the paragraph of the lease that they share equal with damages. Now they are late with the rent.
Please pay the late fee and back rent in 3 days in the Notice to pay or quit.
Now it is possible that the water did FLOW UP. if this was the case the first floor tenants would have been in a FISH BOWL and the first floor would have been totally damaged. Did you say this was a community shower. Splish Splash I Was Taking A Bath PARTY!!! LUCKY for the up stairs tenant this is not the case or the one father would of had a stroke with his share of the bill.
Damages were repaired. Cost of damages split amount students, This months rent was paid. No extra pay was made to cover damages. Send notice deducting damages from rent. Late fee included in rent. Now rent is back due with a balance.
You may want to post a reminder notice in the bathroom that the Shower Curtain is provided to be used inside the shower tub area while the water is on to keep the water from causing damages. --99.56.xx.xx
damages before move out (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2018 5:20 AM
I love AND DE's
AND de cost of the plumber to re-inspect the tub/shower leak is added on to the bill TOO...
Include the Plumbers evaluation in the NON PAYING tenants notice TOO.
damages before move out (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2018 5:20 AM
Send a rent bill which includes current damages, determine what method your court has approved for this -proof of delivery-, not sure how long you wish to operate student rentals but the norm is 8-10 months prepaid, I have an escrow account which is used for payment of rent and damages, when the account balance falls below 2 months rent value then I ask the tenant/s to indicate how much longer they want to stay, most places do not allow using the deposit until the unit has been returned to the manager/owner, study your local and state tenant rules and from visiting housing court you have seen the tenants and managers carry in the envelopes used by the court or ask a clerk what method the court uses, you have to follow what guidelines the court has adopted - the green card mail is too slow. --76.188.xxx.xx