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Aggressive Tree Guy (by AllyM [NJ]) Nov 30, 2017 6:19 PM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by LisaFL [FL]) Nov 30, 2017 6:38 PM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by Barb [MO]) Nov 30, 2017 6:45 PM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by Ken [NY]) Nov 30, 2017 6:47 PM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by RB [MI]) Nov 30, 2017 6:49 PM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by Julie [KS]) Nov 30, 2017 6:49 PM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by Cacique [NJ]) Nov 30, 2017 7:08 PM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Nov 30, 2017 10:09 PM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by Ken [NY]) Dec 1, 2017 4:17 AM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by Richard [MI]) Dec 1, 2017 4:18 AM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by LindaJ [NY]) Dec 1, 2017 4:27 AM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by AllyM [NJ]) Dec 1, 2017 5:04 AM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by Nicole [PA]) Dec 1, 2017 5:53 AM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by LindaJ [NY]) Dec 1, 2017 6:17 AM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by John... [MI]) Dec 1, 2017 6:19 AM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by Gail K [GA]) Dec 1, 2017 6:25 AM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by Barb [MO]) Dec 1, 2017 6:40 AM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by Shelby [IA]) Dec 1, 2017 6:52 AM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by AllyM [NJ]) Dec 1, 2017 8:29 AM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by John... [MI]) Dec 1, 2017 9:54 AM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by LisaFL [FL]) Dec 1, 2017 10:14 AM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Dec 1, 2017 11:10 AM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by Julie [KS]) Dec 1, 2017 11:47 AM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by Shelby [IA]) Dec 1, 2017 1:16 PM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by NE [PA]) Dec 1, 2017 1:19 PM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by beelocks [NH]) Dec 1, 2017 2:12 PM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by LindaJ [NY]) Dec 1, 2017 2:47 PM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by RR78 [VA]) Dec 1, 2017 4:10 PM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by Barbara [VA]) Dec 1, 2017 4:37 PM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by DJ [VA]) Dec 1, 2017 4:50 PM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by AllyM [NJ]) Dec 1, 2017 5:47 PM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by plenty [MO]) Dec 1, 2017 5:57 PM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by John... [MI]) Dec 2, 2017 6:11 AM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by Julie [KS]) Dec 2, 2017 6:30 AM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by WMH [NC]) Dec 2, 2017 6:37 AM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by AllyM [NJ]) Dec 2, 2017 5:32 PM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by John... [MI]) Dec 3, 2017 6:01 AM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by LisaFL [FL]) Dec 3, 2017 6:16 AM
       Aggressive Tree Guy (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Dec 5, 2017 6:41 AM

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Aggressive Tree Guy (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 6:19 PM
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This guy was recommended by my insurance agent to trim back some trees which he did and it was an OK job. Then I needed a tree cut down and he lied about having a tree climber so I got someone else.

Today I hired him to move leaves as he said he would do a couple of months ago. He arrived at the property and saw that a tree had been cut down. My tenant said he began to holler and complain that I didn't hire him to do that. She reminded him that he didn't have a tree climber and the tree was dangerous.

Then I got there and he started to yell at me for not calling him. I needed the leaves off the property since the tenant nags about them if they are composted there so I put up with it, stayed in my car and the tenant stood there while I paid him. While I am writing the check he is commenting that every part of his body hurts and he needs surgery.

I am never going to hire a person who needs surgery and might try to sue me for getting hurt on my property when he is already injured. I think he drinks a lot since he sweats a lot.

Any of you guys ever have a contractor yell at you for not calling him for something he's not able to do? What did you do? Did you let him work or throw him off your property? --73.33.xxx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 6:38 PM
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I would have thrown him off the property. Plenty of people around who would be glad to be paid to remove leaves. Sounds like he forgot to bring his ESA along. --173.170.xxx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 6:45 PM
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I would have thrown him out.

Back in 2011 we built a duplex. I had a handyman doing some work, but not new construction. I needed the duplex done in a timely manner.

So, we are in the middle of this duplex and I needed some handyman stuff done and called my handyman at the time. He does it, then proceeds to complain that my new construction was supposed to be his job. Keep in mind, this guy had never done new, ground up construction, and tried to do it all himself. I had a 4 month window to get it built, and this guy would fail to show up for days at a time.

I fired him on the spot. Told him he didn't need to come back or call me for work.

We still find things at my house and mom's he did wrong. Sigh. --64.251.xxx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 6:47 PM
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Start yelling at me,he would have got tossed in a hurry.Doesn't sound like much of a tree guy if he is willing to work moving leaves,my tree guy can't keep up with the tree work he gets. --72.231.xxx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 6:49 PM
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Does anyone else see a pattern, here? --71.13.xx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by Julie [KS]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 6:49 PM
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I don't tolerate that attitude from anyone, regardless of who they are or what they do. I don't treat people that way & I certainly won't stand around & be treated that way.

He would have gotten a polite "Pack your tools, pull the pin & call it a day. You won't be hearing from me again." --63.245.xxx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by Cacique [NJ]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 7:08 PM
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RB Yes I do, --173.72.xx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 10:09 PM
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AllyM,

Sounds like this guy was on something when he showed up.

I caught a roofer with liquor in his coffee cup on the roof, another smoking weed on break.

Always be aware - never assume.

BRAD --68.51.xx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 4:17 AM
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RB I do also --72.231.xxx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 4:18 AM
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It's amazing the number of people who are mentally unstable these days. So this guy felt he was entitled to all your work? Despite not having proper help?

Then goes off on you and yells at you?

Time to get rid of problem people like this and never allow them back.

--23.121.xx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 4:27 AM
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If he lied to me about having a tree climber, I would not have called him back at all. If someone thinks they are entitled to work at my properties because they have done other things, I severe my relationship. If they start yelling at me while I am there, they will be told to leave. I might pay them for the work they did, but even in the middle of a job, they are done.

AND the tenant does not complain to me if I decide not to pick up the leaves. If I decide not to do it, they could do it if it bothers them that much.

and yes RB. --96.236.xx.xx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 5:04 AM
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Ken, Cacique and RB, the pattern you see is what happens when a woman is in charge and has to deal with bully men. I have been saying this for years. The way to get around the situation is indeed, not to have the person back. Watch the news lately, there is lots of this going around. ML from the Today Show is the latest bully to get shut down. --73.33.xxx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 5:53 AM
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I am the complete opposite from AllyM and have also said it for years. I have almost ZERO issues dealing with men. Not now when I'm in my 60s and not even "back in the day" when I was 20 something on up as a business owner. I deal with men every day of the week. I have other issues - they don't call back, they don't show up, they end up being bums, etc., but not "bullying" ...

also, tenant shouldn't have known the entire story of the guy not having a tree climber. also, "tree guys" aren't the guys to do leaves ... CL should be filled with leaf rakers this time of year. --72.95.xx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 6:17 AM
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I too have held my own just fine through the years without bullying from men. And I have had jobs in male dominated fields even when I was young.

With all the harassment issues being brought out in the media, I still say, those that bully and harass, can tell the weak and those that they can have an influence over. They don't bother with the strong women who won't put up with it. If you are in the mindset that you are a weak women, then you show it in subtle ways that they can pick up on. Take control and they know it. --96.236.xx.xx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 6:19 AM
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AllyM: PLEASE stop playing the "I'm just a woman, so this is what happens" card. We've got LOTS of female landlords here that don't have the problems that you do.

Also, have you noticed that you repeatedly make huge leaps based on tiny assumptions? You've decided that a guy that works outside for a living and SWEATS must be a big drinker?? Come on!

Don't get me wrong -- sounds like this guy is a jerk, sure. But you jump to so many conclusions about people -- and then go with this attitude of "I'm a woman, so every man treats me unfairly" . I can't help but think that you bring a lot of this on yourself. :(

- John...

--207.241.xxx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by Gail K [GA]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 6:25 AM
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I agree.

Gail --71.203.xx.xx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 6:40 AM
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I'm another mature female. I've been holding my own in a male dominated field for years. When I started university, the ratio of men to women at my school was 6 to 1. Yes, 6 men for every woman. It is more equitable now, but the ratio is still way over 3 to 1 here.

I recognize there are some areas that often men seem more equipped, due to muscle mass, size, etc, but there are women who are quite able in the same fields. I have relatives who can haul and lift with the best of them, and know a female police officer that is 5ft4 that no one crosses.

It is the person, not the gender. --64.251.xxx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by Shelby [IA]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 6:52 AM
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Iím in my early 30ís and deal with everything rental related. Guy electricians, furnace guys, carpet guys, etc. No guy pushes me around either. --173.26.xxx.xx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 8:29 AM
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Yes, ladies, but I don't look like a man. Do you? Management is getting work done through people. Yesterday I "managed" this man and got the work done, by not creating any more drama.

I will continue to "manage" him by never calling him again. I win. But it's a struggle.

--73.33.xxx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 9:54 AM
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Now you are accusing females that don't have your problems as "looking like men"?? That is one of the rudest things I've ever seen on this site -- and that's really saying something! Sheesh.

- John...

--207.241.xxx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 10:14 AM
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John has a point there. I didn't take offense but it does sound like that's what Ally was implying.

Reminds me of a contractor who once told me I wasn't like normal women. I said, "And what's that supposed to mean?"

He quickly clarified that he meant I know way more stuff about things most women have no clue about. I added, "and most men".

It did take him a bit of time to warm up to me and I'm sure he thought he'd be dealing with another customer trying to tell him how to do his job but it didn't take too long for him to realize I had a clue.

So we do run into a little gender bias from time to time but I haven't had too much trouble. --173.170.xxx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 11:10 AM
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No, I don't look like a man and I've never had problems with any contractors (other than trying to get one out for a small job when they are all booked solid for the rest of the year).

There are a couple of stores where I won't shop (one being an auto parts store) because they won't wait on me, and there was a tractor dealer who wouldn't show me a big farm tractor. I suppose because so many women just come in to kick tires, waste their time, and never buy the tractor? Hey, if they don't want a $60,000 sale, I can buy elsewhere.

But contractors are always pleasant. They like my money just as well as anyone else's money. My regular guys always like to talk to me about business.

Your problem with this guy was not because you are a woman. Your problem with him was because he is a nut case. --174.216.xx.xx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by Julie [KS]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 11:47 AM
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Seriously??

--63.245.xxx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by Shelby [IA]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 1:16 PM
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Lmao @ Ally. No I DONT look like a man. Seems you have problems with EVERYONE though. Maintenance AND tenants. I donít. Why do you? Maybe you should sell all your properties and get a job elsewhere or retire. Seems you judge people too quickly and donít have good luck with it. Just saying. --173.26.xxx.xx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 1:19 PM
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I 2nd the motion made by Shelby. Ally, many many of your posts are just tenant drama or self created drama or paranoid drama. A lot of things that you worry about don't exist.

Maybe it is time to seriously consider downsizing your portfolio. --174.201.xx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by beelocks [NH]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 2:12 PM
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I sweat a lot when working hard and have a distinctive foreign accent; should I assume that I'm an alcoholic illegal immigrant? --73.60.xxx.xx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 2:47 PM
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Well, I don't go to the rental to work with a short skirt, heels and makeup. I usually have jeans and t shirt or fleece shirt in winter. If I am really doing work the jeans are ripped at the knees (I earned those didn't buy them that way) and have paint splatters. BUT I am a blonde!

I don't manage my contractors, I let them do the job they are there for. I ask a lot of questions, trying to understand something if they are doing things I don't know about. I talk business with them. I do other chores while there. I do not sit in my car and watch them.

Yes there are a couple of places I won't shop because of how I am treated. But most everyone knows me at Lowe's and is very helpful, ask how the project is going. I even help other people because I know the store and products so well. --96.236.xx.xx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 4:10 PM
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I also find that women will actually have an advantage most of the time. But few will ever mention that.

And weather they are wrong or right about an issue. The guys will be less angry and argumentative when dealing with a women. --172.74.xxx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by Barbara [VA]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 4:37 PM
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I will admit it...being a female is an advantage for me. I strongly suspect the contractors I have had issue with are problems for the guys as well.

I encourage you to consider getting out of this business and focusing on your dogs. Nothing wrong with saying something is no longer right for you. --68.107.xxx.x




Aggressive Tree Guy (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 4:50 PM
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Back up a step - don't determine what you do based on a Tenant nagging about it. This shows that it is not just the hired help, but tenants also (and I suspect others in your life) who's opinions carry more weight than your business decisions. This is the trend I have noticed in a number of your problems that you post about. I believe as long as you keep making decisions that way, you will keep getting the same kinds of results. I wish you the best & hope you will learn to trust your own judgements & experience/knowledge more. --68.105.xxx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 5:47 PM
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I don't know how you people keep any tenants at all. Mine stay for ten to fifteen years or their entire life for one of them. Read and learn. I think some of you are just voyeurs with no rentals. --73.33.xxx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 5:57 PM
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What happened to the leaves? Leaves are important too, what happened...? Bagged? Burned? Were they colorful? Inquiring minds want to know. --66.87.xx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2017 6:11 AM
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AllyM: So now all of the people you offended with your "do you look like a man?" comment must not even be landlords at all?

You tell people to "read and learn" and yet you're posting constantly about weird problems with tenants and contractors that the rest of us don't seem to have. You repeatedly have drama with both tenants and contractors that all treat you poorly apparently -- and, often, you say it is because you're a woman.

Sorry, AllyM, but these people DO have rentals. They just don't have the problems that you do. They aren't the ones that need to "read and learn."

I can't believe you can attack people here based on their looks -- and when you get called out on it by MULTIPLE other woman here, you don't even bother to apologize for what you said. Instead, you double-down against them and tell them that they must not even be landlords!

Wow.

- John...

--96.40.xx.xx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by Julie [KS]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2017 6:30 AM
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And I think that pogo stick you use to jump to all of your conclusions might be better used to knock those chips off your shoulders.

--63.245.xxx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2017 6:37 AM
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John, no one takes Ally seriously so her comments don't even rise to the level of being an "insult" LOL!

Her racist views are well-known, as are her woo-woo views of the world. --74.110.xxx.xx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2017 5:32 PM
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True colors shining through. Very revealing of what kind of people post here. --73.33.xxx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Dec 3, 2017 6:01 AM
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Agreed. Mostly good people that don't insult the looks or professions of others when we disagree with them.

Mostly.

- John...

--71.13.xx.xx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Dec 3, 2017 6:16 AM
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Very well said John. Don't think it could have been said any better. --173.170.xxx.xxx




Aggressive Tree Guy (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Dec 5, 2017 6:41 AM
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When something like this happens in Pa, we send the contractor over to NJ

Sorry that the idiot got you spun up. Can him and update your list of approved contractors. Make sure you call these folks before you actually need them so they can be trained on how you want them to deal with your tenants. --24.101.xxx.xxx



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