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professional tenant (by Jack [NJ]) Nov 30, 2017 3:06 PM
       professional tenant (by Vee [OH]) Nov 30, 2017 3:14 PM
       professional tenant (by CJ [MO]) Nov 30, 2017 3:28 PM
       professional tenant (by GKARL [PA]) Nov 30, 2017 3:31 PM
       professional tenant (by RB [MI]) Nov 30, 2017 4:39 PM
       professional tenant (by AllyM [NJ]) Nov 30, 2017 5:18 PM
       professional tenant (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Nov 30, 2017 7:07 PM
       professional tenant (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Nov 30, 2017 10:18 PM
       professional tenant (by Robert J [CA]) Dec 1, 2017 12:11 AM
       professional tenant (by Tony [NJ]) Dec 1, 2017 5:18 AM
       professional tenant (by S i d [MO]) Dec 1, 2017 6:22 AM
       professional tenant (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Dec 5, 2017 5:19 AM


professional tenant (by Jack [NJ]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 3:06 PM
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State Specific Question About: NEW JERSEY (NJ)

One thing I learned as a new landlord is not to trust people, green money only. My sympathy toward my tenant costed me over $5k. I rented my two bedroom apt to a single mom with a 10 years old daughter. At the beginning, she was so nice, and I thought we were gonna start a great landlord/tenant relationship; and my nightmare started after I gave her the key. (I believed that she set my up). After she gave me the check with available balance from her bank, I accepted the check on a Friday night around 8PM at where I worked as bartender, and I even bought her a drink after she gave me the check. My tenant bounced her first month check and the security deposit; followed by different excuses(my bank problem, the check problem, etc. She didn't have any eviction against her previously, and just found out that she indeed had an eviction just before she rented my place. due to the court system, the eviction show up 4 months later. I brought her to court for none payment, and the judge granted my the premise, but no money judgement. I want to put a lien on her, anyone knows how to do it. thanks for listening. how do i warned other people about this professional tenant. --98.110.xx.xx




professional tenant (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 3:14 PM
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Welcome to the circus, I wanted to say business but you have prolly not read your state and local tenant rules or you would have used the correct court terminology to get money judgement so now you have to proceed to small claims court for another rodeo. But several of us have made mistakes like this before, always money orders for the starting then you have some of the tenant skin in the game. --76.188.xxx.xx




professional tenant (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 3:28 PM
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I made many mistake too. First check has to be cleared or money order. That will stop lots of bad tenant there. They can still make excuses when not rent, but they have to pay if they want to stay. --97.91.xxx.xxx




professional tenant (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 3:31 PM
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EVERY check has to be a money order, cash or EFT. I made that mistake also. It can take upwards to four weeks before you know about a bad check. --207.172.xx.xxx




professional tenant (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 4:39 PM
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Screen x3. (effort)

Have a Written Procedure and Check'em off as you go.

--71.13.xx.xxx




professional tenant (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 5:18 PM
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Hi. I only take cash for the security deposit. In fact my bank won't open one if the deposit is not in cash. Too expensive for them. --73.33.xxx.xxx




professional tenant (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 7:07 PM
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A very important lessons for landlords to know: everybody is really nice when they want something from you. The more expensive the item, the nicer they will be.

Just because someone is really nice when they are trying to convince you to give them your rental that doesn't necessarily mean that they really are a nice person. --174.216.x.xx




professional tenant (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2017 10:18 PM
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Jack,

Don't beat yourself up but DO take action.

Because we've been cheated exactly the same way and to be certain it will never happen again, we never accept personal checks. Not even after they move in.

We also only rent to folks who have a decent job and are GARNISHABLE.

Start back with her application. Find where she works. Her emergency contacts. Ask the neighbors to your rental.

My lease is clear: we require 4 emergency contacts per adult with signed authorization to serve them notices. Basically I serve their Granny!

Facebook has been an AMAZING resource to find "lost" residents who owe us money!

BRAD

--68.51.xx.xxx




professional tenant (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 12:11 AM
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For monies owed for a new tenancy, either in the form or a Money Order, Cashier's Check, Bit-Coin, PayPal or any other type of payment can always be cancelled or stopped by the purchaser. So my lease and receipt spell out that the new Tenants(s) will NOT get keys to the property until the funds are in the landlords hands.

I have my new tenant purchase their Cashier's Check/Money Order from a local Bank. I go to that bank and CASH the CHECK -- not against my funds but on the merit of that check alone. I have the managers stipulate that no "holds" are being placed on any of my accounts (checking, savings or credit cards). The manager has to call the bank's clearing house and confirm the check is still good and they can hand over the funds.....

Then I place a key in the lockbox at the property and call my new tenant they can move in as planed.

In 40 years I've had around a dozen want-a-be tenant try to pull a fast one and tell their bank they lost the check and wanted to stop payment. --47.156.xx.xx




professional tenant (by Tony [NJ]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 5:18 AM
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There are some state specific remedies available to you. Some questions - was any check post dated? If not you are a crime victim and have 1 year from the date of the offense to file a bad check claim in MUNICIPAL not county court. If postdated, the check is merely a promissary note and not a "bad check"Do you have tenant's social security # and date of birth? If yes you can separately pursue a money judgement in small claims court. With the right answers here you have a chance at collecting. Bad tenants are the best teachers. --73.195.xxx.xxx




professional tenant (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 6:22 AM
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First thing: I know you are feeling rotten, cheated, and angry. I think most of us have been there. The desire is for REVENGE and to "teach her a lesson." I humbly suggest based on past experience....revenge will harm no one but the person seeking it, and you will never "teach her a lesson." People who do this are borderline amoral, meaning they have no sense of morality. They will lie, steal, cheat, hoodwink, take advantage of ANYONE and EVERYONE they meet so long as it benefits them. There is no way to teach the unteachable.

Your only goal at this point: recover money.

Don't worry about warning other LLs. If they are smart, they'll figure her out without your help. The old eviction should be showing up on public records now, and your new eviction will be soon too. One recent or two back-to-back evictions is enough warning for wise land lords who do thorough screening. Unwise land lords won't check, so nothing you do will help them. They get what they deserve for acting foolishly. I get what I deserve when I act foolishly.

In some states (like Missouri) passing a bad check over $500 is felony offense under certain conditions. Google your states "bad check" laws and see what you find that MIGHT wake her up.

As Brad says, Facebook is your friend. Try to find her using her telephone number, or try name and town. Common names are hard to find.

If all else fails, report her debt. Jeffrey has a service on this site (click green "Services" tab above) that costs very little and reports to all 3 credit bureaus and rolls over to collection within a certain period of time. You do NOT have to have a money judgment to use this service.

Now you've been "schooled" in the ways of tenant shenanigans at move-in. During screening, always talk to current and PAST land lord. Verify they are legit by asking leading questions: "How much was her rent? What was the address she rented from you? How long was she your tenant?" Fakers won't think of all the details in advance. Cross check ownership of the "rental" with online tax records. If the tenants don't have BOTH current and past LL, you need a rock solid cosigner (great, steady income, owns local real estate, blemish free credit report) or it's a NO-GO. Why? Current LLs lie to get rid of bad residents. I only consider negative references from current LL.

Payments (move-in, deposit, rent, damage bills, etc): always always always cash or certified funds (money order, bank certified check). No personal checks, ever, for any reason...regardless of documentation. I avoid credit cards and other payment methods a tenant can "claw back" (PayPal, Square, etc) too. Auto-draft from a bank works best, or try a third party billing service (i.e. ClearNow). Or do what I do and just have tenants drop the payment off at your bank. All they need is your business name that's on the account...no need for pre-printed slips for them to lose or account numbers for them to forget. --173.19.xx.xxx




professional tenant (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Dec 5, 2017 5:19 AM
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In order to prevent this from happening in the future, require cash to get moved in initially.

Also at the initial screening meeting, have them bring a copy of there current lease. It would take a great deal of gull to be in process of getting booted out and present a copy of the lease.

Then go ahead and make the call to the current LL. --24.101.xxx.xxx





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