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ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Tris1968 [OH]) Nov 24, 2017 11:08 AM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by AllyM [NJ]) Nov 24, 2017 11:24 AM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Ken [NY]) Nov 24, 2017 11:38 AM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by S id [MO]) Nov 24, 2017 11:39 AM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by RB [MI]) Nov 24, 2017 12:26 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by WMH [NC]) Nov 24, 2017 12:51 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by mike [MA]) Nov 24, 2017 12:55 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Nov 24, 2017 1:19 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by David [NC]) Nov 24, 2017 1:39 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by cjl [NY]) Nov 24, 2017 1:42 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Nov 24, 2017 1:46 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Pmh [TX]) Nov 24, 2017 2:46 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by NE [PA]) Nov 24, 2017 2:52 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Kyle [IN]) Nov 24, 2017 4:58 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Pmh [TX]) Nov 24, 2017 5:17 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Pmh [TX]) Nov 24, 2017 5:22 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by RB [MI]) Nov 24, 2017 5:35 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by NE [PA]) Nov 24, 2017 5:41 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by DJ [VA]) Nov 24, 2017 7:31 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Robert J [CA]) Nov 24, 2017 9:40 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Cacique [NJ]) Nov 24, 2017 11:46 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Vee [OH]) Nov 25, 2017 3:42 AM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Still Learning [NH]) Nov 25, 2017 6:11 AM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Wilma [PA]) Nov 25, 2017 6:28 AM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Stephen [ON]) Nov 25, 2017 2:56 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by cji [NY]) Nov 26, 2017 6:10 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by S i d [MO]) Nov 27, 2017 6:15 AM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by mike [CA]) Nov 27, 2017 3:37 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Josh [CA]) Nov 27, 2017 3:52 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Dec 1, 2017 4:24 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Jaime [IN]) Dec 4, 2017 10:17 AM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Pmh [TX]) Dec 4, 2017 1:41 PM
       ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Phil [OR]) Dec 8, 2017 5:17 AM

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ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Tris1968 [OH]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 11:08 AM
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Wondered how many landlords in addition to smoke and CO detectors, also provide fire extinguishers in every unit. Are there states that require the landlord to provide them?

Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving holiday!

--174.104.xxx.x




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 11:24 AM
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My town requires this. It has to be a small ABC in the kitchen fastened to the wall or displayed. Fire inspector checks once per year. Not sure if the state does but the state does not get involved in duplexes which is what I have now. --73.33.xxx.xxx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 11:38 AM
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Only when a city required it at a 3 unit or if my insurance company requires it.Personally if there is a fire I would prefer everyone just get out,if they grab an estinguisher that I provided and get hurt or killed I think that would be be a lawsuit I don't need --72.231.xxx.xxx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by S id [MO]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 11:39 AM
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In addition to providing CO detectors...

We don't provide those. Tried it at a couple of units. Too many false alarms. We were getting calls several time per week for almost a month and found NOTHING WRONG on any of them. Maybe bad detectors, bad installs, who knows? Couple hundred bucks and several hours of wasted time we decided to remove them. They are not required in my town.

We do provide smoke detectors. Those are not "required" either, but common sense says to put them in and insurance likes it when we do. I cannot ever recall getting a false alarms on a smoke detector. Tenants often steal the batteries out of the older ones. The newer ones with 10 year built in power are nicer.

We don't provide fire extinguishers either. Once you do that, you've opened up potential liability that it A) operates correctly and B) the tenant knows how to use it properly and C) it's not expired.

I can see the headline: Tenant's home burns...land lord provided faulty fire extinguishers....law suit details at 10 o'clock!

I don't even have one in our house. Extinguishers are one of those things I think have been oversold by the safety from life crowd. Can't use them on all but the smallest of fires, constantly have to test them, make a huge mess when they do work...

If you're gonna put out a fire, have a 5 lbs bag of baking soda handy. Never expires, very cheap. To deploy, open bag and dump or toss on fire with a 1 cup measuring cup or failing that by the fist full. Or use a large, heavy blanket/towel to smother it.

Maybe it's because I don't panic easily...a "Class A" fire, the type that home extinguishers are recommended for...are relatively easy to smother if you're paying attention. Just don't do something dumb like throw water on a grease fire. --173.19.xx.xxx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 12:26 PM
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As a Former (Highly Trained) Firefighter,

Yes I do, install them at each Rental.

And yes they work. If they are properly / routinely maintained.

(The Powder in a Fire Ext. can Cake and Harden,over time)

There is More of a (potential) Liability

without them.

Fire Ext. rank right up there ( after Auto Fire Sprinklers

and Smoke Detectors )

as far as a First Line of Defense.

Ask any First Responder, Fire Fighter, Police Officer,

18 Wheeler or Pit Crew Member.

--71.13.xx.xxx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 12:51 PM
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Yes we do, and I know of at least two tenants who were able to put out small fires and move on with no damage. One set her deck on fire with a hibachi, and the other it was some sort of kitchen fire. Not sure, just know the unit was used. --173.22.xx.xx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by mike [MA]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 12:55 PM
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My property ins give a discount if we have one,/... Over the years, we find a few that has been discharged...I'm guessing it was for a good reason.. --71.192.xxx.xxx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 1:19 PM
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My insurance company gives a discount if there is a small bundle of safety features: deadbolts, fire extinguishers, CO detectors, smoke detectors. --174.216.xx.x




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by David [NC]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 1:39 PM
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I do. Just seems right to me along with the smoke detectors and CO detectors (if gas appliances or heat - required here by law) --65.188.xxx.xxx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by cjl [NY]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 1:42 PM
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I have one that is in a larger building (in the hallway where two units have access to it). When I went there about a year ago I noticed this "stuff" on the floor but couldn't place it.

Then as I walked past the fire extinguisher I noticed it was no longer charged. "Oh ... that's what that is".

Had to purchase a new one but I'm sure it was the kids in the one unit that just pulled the pin and pushed the trigger on it. Idiot parents just swept the stuff into the corner and left it there for me to find. Good thing there wasn't a fire ... kind of makes it useless if you know it's going to work. But hey, what do we know? --69.201.xx.xxx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 1:46 PM
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We provide them and place them in the kitchen. If they have a patio where they can grill outside we provide another one for that area.

Our tenants obviously like them since it's the one thing they all take with them when they move out.

Smoke detectors and CO at least one per floor are required here. --75.181.xxx.xx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 2:46 PM
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I provide in kitchen & on patio at each house. not sure if anyone keeps 5lb bags of baking soda around or a measuring cup for small kitchen (pan) fires.....I would think the first thing someone looks for is an extinguisher rather than looking in the pantry & kitchen drawers. nonsensical. --104.218.xxx.xx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 2:52 PM
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No, I don't want the liability. I do provide 2nd story fire escape ladders for 2nd story bedrooms though. --50.32.xxx.xxx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Kyle [IN]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 4:58 PM
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1 smoke detector per unit is required, I put 1 per bedroom.

No CO required, I put 1 per unit.

No fire extinguisher required, I put 1 in every kitchen. I have had 2 tenants report putting out a fire with their extinguisher. And found several other extinguishers discharged after move out, either to put out fires or for tenant children to play with.

FYI: There was just a major Kidde fire extinguisher recall a week or so ago. --73.102.xxx.xx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 5:17 PM
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It amazes me sometimes that there are some who imagine there is liability by fact of providing safety equipment for use in an emergency. Also nonsensical. --97.94.xxx.xx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 5:22 PM
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I would be more concerned about the risk of everyone trying to escape a fire that could have been put out by extinguisher but have to try & clamber down a (what type) ladder 2 stories up........this logic just confounds me... --97.94.xxx.xx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 5:35 PM
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Old Chinese Man say:

One who stay in Logic to long, Hurt Head.

--71.13.xx.xxx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 5:41 PM
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PMH, it's not nonsensical. 1st of all, it's not required here. 2nd of all, if that fire extinguisher malfunctions and someone DIES as a result, I don't want that responsibility.

They can get their own just as easy as I can provide them.

I provide working smoke detectors at lease signing.

The same smoke detectors that they remove the batteries from anyway.... --50.32.xxx.xxx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 7:31 PM
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Yes. I mount an ABC fire extinguisher in every kitchen - in a cabinet away from the stove - usually under the sink. Part of what is signed off on the move-in inspection form during final walk-through is operation of and how to check smoke alarms & fire extinguisher. --68.105.xxx.xxx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 9:40 PM
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My City, Los Angeles, requires in multi-family properties the landlord has extinguishers in metal boxes with breakable glass fronts no further than 50 feet from every unit and they are to professionally inspected and re-certified annually. What a pain in the neck! --47.156.xx.xx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Cacique [NJ]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2017 11:46 PM
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I provide 2 fire extinguishers one in the kitchen and one in the basement or second floor. --173.61.xxx.xxx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Nov 25, 2017 3:42 AM
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My insurance offers a discount so we examine and charge tenant for empty ones - they have care and custody of this, this like other damages is not a security deduction, add to next rent cycle. --76.188.xxx.xx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Nov 25, 2017 6:11 AM
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Insurance requires it at one building in the common hallway and in one building in each unit. As for in each unit fire dept says they would rather tenants just got out and called 911. If you have the kiddie brand call with the serial numbers, etc. all of mine at home, apartments, and boat fall under the current recall. --24.61.xxx.xx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Nov 25, 2017 6:28 AM
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I picked up a tip at a local fire safety presentation. Not only do you check the gauge on a fire extinguisher at least every three months, but also shake them vigorously every six months (which is easy to add to the Fall and Spring maintenance list). If you don't hear the contents moving around, it's time to replace the entire thing.

I provide them in the kitchen, the garage, and outside of the laundry room. --71.175.xxx.xxx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Stephen [ON]) Posted on: Nov 25, 2017 2:56 PM
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I did provide fire extinguishers and then I went to a Property Management Association meeting where an Inspector from the Fire Department was speaking. I asked him about fire extinguishers and he said that if they were provided by the landlord then the landlord had to inspect them every month! With ten properties that is 120 inspections a year. He said if you gave the extinguishers to the tenant then that was OK. Such is the bureaucratic mind. I promptly wrote to each tenant gifting them the fire extinguisher in their unit. Some of them have walked off with them on leaving and I am not replacing them. It is a case of over regulation overcoming common sense in my view. --174.91.xxx.xx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by cji [NY]) Posted on: Nov 26, 2017 6:10 PM
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I have a city that has a "rule" that indicated that each apartment needed a fire extinguisher. I have a large one that two units have access to (in a hallway) and the third unit has it's own (they don't share the same access/ don't have access to that part of the building).

The others that I have in other cities/villages don't require them (at least not yet). However, if there is a fire extinguisher in the unit I just make sure it is charged since it doesn't make much sense that one is there but can't be used or won't be of much help. It's similar to having a smoke detector with no battery in it. Pointless.

I'm not sure if any tenant would really think about the fact that there was a fire extinguisher and if they did - not sure they would know what to do with it. I just cringe when I think of a possibility of a fire in a property. I really just want them to get out and call the fire department unless they are clear thinkers and know enough to think smart and act appropriately. Unfortunately I don't think there are many out there (even the smart ones). --69.201.xx.xxx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Nov 27, 2017 6:15 AM
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Degrees of culpability are always interesting in civil injury suits. --173.19.xx.xxx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by mike [CA]) Posted on: Nov 27, 2017 3:37 PM
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no. the liability is not something i am wiling to shoulder. i prefer fire insurance with a 500 deductible AND loss of rents coverage. not callous...just tired of paying for other peoples' stupid --76.176.xxx.xxx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Josh [CA]) Posted on: Nov 27, 2017 3:52 PM
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When I started this business 22 years ago. I put a fire extinguisher in every unit right next to the stove. This has served me well. Iíve never had a fire get out of control I have had 5 extinguishers used with no fire damage. --166.137.xxx.xx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2017 4:24 PM
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In Pa, at least a single CO is required by law.

There is no extinguisher requirement state wide but many local communities require it. --24.101.xxx.xxx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Jaime [IN]) Posted on: Dec 4, 2017 10:17 AM
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We provide smoke alarms in each bedroom, and in main areas as well. We do not do CO2 detectors.

Every unit has one fire extinguisher unless there is a garage in which you will find two.

We also provide one fire escape ladder to all 2 story units. The boxes are sealed with red duct tape and initialed if the seal is broken they are charged for a new one. --68.50.xx.xx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Dec 4, 2017 1:41 PM
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hopefully not charged if had to be used...I do also install co2 detectors in all rentals. --166.137.xxx.xx




ProvideFire Extinguishers (by Phil [OR]) Posted on: Dec 8, 2017 5:17 AM
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We put one in every unit. We try to put it near the door to the kitchen escape rout - kitchen fires are the most common --want the tenant to be near the exit. --71.63.xxx.xxx



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